I was talking to my coworker today and he still thinks Obama is Muslim who prays towards Mecca everyday.

I told him he was a Christian but wouldn't let me get beyond that before saying he found something on the Internet...

Okay, unless it's on Wikipedia or an absolutely impartial site, I take anything said on the Internet with a grain of salt. But, apparently he's going to try to convince me by printing this stuff out. So I'm thinking he doesn't know I've seen that list before and pretty much thought it was BS.

But, what am I going to do if he actually brings that list in? If he actually thinks that then there is nothing I can really do. He also thinks my pronounciation of Muslim of sorta like "mu-slim" is incorrect. So he was making fun of me about that.

Seriously, I hope everyone who votes for McCain and allows him to win get what they deserve.

its one person though you know. they're in a minority. if we keep working, it won't matter as we will have President Obama.
sure try to talk some sense into him.
ask him how the last eight years have been, how his vote worked out economically, ask him what he thinks about mccant cheating on wife one, and pawnlin lying in al.
ask them about they're lying all the time.
tell him President Obama worked his ass off, meanwhile mccant mooched, and pawnlin isn't qualified enough to run a beauty school much less a country.
if it doesn't work then you at least gave him something to think about.
point out the falsity of the website (as you know it came from a freeper, and it isn't real) tell him that!

those^ are EXACTLY what i do on the ground here.
point out every single solitary bullshit talking point, call it out, and INFORM the misinformed.

He's prejudiced and ignorant. I mean even if Obama was Muslim so the fuck what? I'm sick of hearing this crap about "Ohhh did you hear he was a muslim?" like anyone who isn't Christian in this country should be taken out and shot.

I know he's not a muslim but I honestly don't get why people care if he is.

Seriously, it's hard to talk sense into the nonsensical. I just have given up, mostly because this is Cons County. But, also because of how polluted the debate has been for the longest time.

He also thinks being a Muslim is a blood thing. Like the color of your skin or something like that. So that just goes to show what kind of people we're dealing with here. Regardless of the fact Obama was pretty much raised by his Grandparents in Hawaii of all places.

I wish people would quit handwringing about these long-debunked emails.

Direct them to 2 sites:

Snopes
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp

Factcheck.org
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html

And a 3rd, even though the haters will write it off as biased even though they've never been there in their lives:
http://factcheck.barackobama.com/

The factcheck.org link is an older one, but there are plenty new/current articles about the Obama smears.

STOP FRETTING, stop the handwringing. Let's empower ourselves with FACTS.

WTF? If he thinks it's a blood thing he's even more ignorant and prejudiced because he's holding something against Obama which he thinks he was born with and therefore couldn't control.

Who are these people living among us? lol It's not really funny but I can't help but laugh at how ridiculous people are. That's all you can do sometimes is laugh.

Yeah I saw a tabloid headline at the store saying "proof he (Obama) is a muslim" My opinion is "so what if he is" He isn't, but why are ppl so hung up on this notion that islam is bad anyway? What they fail to understand is the Taliban is an extreme part of the religion. No different than born again Christians who try to put their shit on other people. This ignorant Republican party likes to say that anyone who is Muslim is a terrorist. This is simply untrue

Well, what's even weirder is that during that conversation he did classify there to be only two types of Muslims, Sunnis and Shiites.

When really those are only two factions in a religion. I'm just seriously confused how to handle it. Other than weird things like that, I do like my coworker. I just hate letting people get away witih being ignorant though.

Hi,

my original account from AirAmerica day seems to have gone bye bye... anyway,

back surfing this site and loving it. As for the co-worker, I have to tell myself, you can lead a dumb Ass (four legged kind) to the water but you can't make him drink.

I've tried with my co-worker about getting him to read all the sites with REAL INFORMATION but no way will he be bothered. He just digs his grave and claims the liberal sites are hate mongering stupid &&^%%$ and nieve. And we will all be killed by the muslims, whom he wish to kill all before they kill us. He is trying to protet me from the Muslim killers. He just prefers O'Reilly as the gospel.

The latest today was he was blaming Congressman Barney Franks for the upheaval in the wall street. I got really mad at him, tried to remind him of the Keating 5, remind him of Phil Graham with the deregulation... And that the deregulation happened under republican watch. Lincoln Savings was under republican watch and the current turmoil is under shrubbery.

For a change I didn't back down when he started to yell at me. His parting words were my political view is treason and for me to get the )(** out of his office. My parting words to him was "Well I guess your two sons will be Iran bound". One of his sons just came back from Iraq. Tricare is no care but they can't seem to connect the dots in that no care is gift from the republican party.

I'm not ashamed to tell people in their face, "I believe in social security. I believe in Universal Health care where everyone can be treated. I believe in Medicare. And I want to see our military personnel and their families taken care of properly. This is SOCIALISM. And I'm proud to be a socialist" I also tell people "I want to conserve our natural resources. Save and conserve our forests, conserve our water, conserve our planet. This is a true conservative. We want to conserve what we have, not destroy or use it all up."

The co-worker is a fasciast and he don't like it when I tell it like it is. Where I work behind the orange curtain (orange county Calif.) there are lots of them and I'm in the minority. Time to look for a new job.

soo infuriated I can't sleep!

It may not make political sense, but it seems to me that anyone who accuses Obama of being a Muslim should be confronted with a question: "What do you have against Muslims?" Their answer will probably include some reference to 9/11/01, which opens the door to talking about "Christian terrorists", like the ones responsible for the Oklahoma bombing and the KKK. And so, why are Christian terrorists less scary than Muslim terrorists? I am sick and tired of hearing people being demonized for their religious faith in a country that was supposed to be a haven for religious dissidents, a place where "freedom of worship" was supposed to mean that anybody could believe whatever they chose to believe without having to be persecuted for their beliefs as long as they did not interfere with the freedom of others to do likewise.

Damn! What has happened to my country?

Didn't you hear? It was stolen. almost eight years ago.

Wikipedia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Umm hate to tell ya anyone can amend its entries. Wikipedia is NOT a reliable source.

Oh I stupidly asked the co-worker

"Muslims hates Christians right? and they want to kill us right?"

"Yeah that's right so why the stupid question every one knows that"

me, "So Reverend Wright. He is a Rev. right?"

"He's a traiter anti-American who wants to repatriate the blacks"

"So if Sen. Obama is a Muslim and all Muslims wants kill Christians, then why is Sen. Obama hanging around with Rev. Wright and his church for how many years"

"F--- you F--- you." was the sort of reply I remember... So easy to TILT!!!

Too bad there isn't a reset button on that pea brain. Is there a such thing as a re-education camp for the fascists?

Smilingcat

From that view, there are NO absolutely reliable sources. But for what it is, it's pretty decent. Go ahead, test it, go to Wikipedia and edit it to make an article total BS...and see how long it takes before the bulldog editors swarm in.

Not that I've heard about. But there sure should be. Meantime, I guess those of us who aren't will just have to do the best we can. Don't know why, but these words come to mind. "A coward dies a thousand deaths, a good man only one." I can't remember who said it.

Any time someone says something untrue like Obama is a Muslim, you should point blank call them stupid. Tell them that was debunked ages ago, you are embarrassed that they fell for something that dumb. Walk away, let that sink in. Lets stop humouring and being kind to the asshats that are ruining our country. They believe the stupid stuff and then vote Republican.

F them.

I got props from carmen. You have made my day.

I'd have to agree with you Starbuck. I mean I honestly don't see any reason to placate these people anymore. I don't consider them true Americans either since they always accuse me of hating my country because I want the best for it.

They won't listen to anything anyone else of a differing opinion has to say. They are just blindly defending these people who don't give a crap about them. When will they learn? I just seriously think that their minds will never be changed about this unfortunately. They've been so brainwashed by fear that they won't listen to anyone else. They need debugging.

Believe me, this person and other people know Obama is not a muslin but want to keep the lie alive to turn people away. This is just another ploy to help McCain will. This is article was written today.


Poll: Racial misgivings of whites an Obama issue
AP-Yahoo News Poll: Racial prejudices steer some white Democrats away from Obama
By RON FOURNIER and TREVOR TOMPSON Associated Press Writers | AP
Sep 20, 2008
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(WASHINGTON) Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks — many calling them "lazy," "violent" or responsible for their own troubles.

The poll, conducted with Stanford University, suggests that the percentage of voters who may turn away from Obama because of his race could easily be larger than the final difference between the candidates in 2004 — about 2.5 percentage points.

Certainly, Republican John McCain has his own obstacles: He's an ally of an unpopular president and would be the nation's oldest first-term president. But Obama faces this: 40 percent of all white Americans hold at least a partly negative view toward blacks, and that includes many Democrats and independents.

More than a third of all white Democrats and independents — voters Obama can't win the White House without — agreed with at least one negative adjective about blacks, according to the survey, and they are significantly less likely to vote for Obama than those who don't have such views.

Such numbers are a harsh dose of reality in a campaign for the history books. Obama, the first black candidate with a serious shot at the presidency, accepted the Democratic nomination on the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech, a seminal moment for a nation that enshrined slavery in its Constitution.

"There are a lot fewer bigots than there were 50 years ago, but that doesn't mean there's only a few bigots," said Stanford political scientist Paul Sniderman who helped analyze the exhaustive survey.

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