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Gatekeeper
Has the October Surprise that we have seen in past elections, which we fully expect to happen this election, BEGUN to happen with the present WALL STREET CEO BAIL-OUT and the collapse of the FED and our BANKING SYSTEMS?

Naomi Klein's THE SHOCK DOCTRINE which lays out the above scenario that has occurred to other governments -is now occurring here at home! WHY? Could it be that the same group of entrepreneurs have perfected their "agenda" and are NOW applying it to the "motherland". Profits have no conscience! And the "WILL to Succeed" without CHECKS & BALANCES...will lead the GREEDY to CREATE Armageddon.

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A Note from Naomi

I wrote The Shock Doctrine in the hopes that it would make us all better prepared for the next big shock. Well, that shock has certainly arrived, along with gloves-off attempts to use it to push through radical pro-corporate policies (which of course will further enrich the very players who created the market crisis in the first place…). But here’s the thing: these tactics can only work if we let them. They work when we give in to our fear and our desire for “strong leaders” – even if they are the same strong leaders who used the September 11 attacks to launch the Disaster Capitalism Complex. Sadly, there are no saviors in this crisis, and the only hope of preventing another dose of shock politics is loud, organized grassroots pressure on all political parties.

In this newsletter, Debra Levy, who runs www.shockdoctrine.org and was my closest colleague in researching The Shock Doctrine, has compiled my recent writing and interviews on the crisis, as well as information about an upcoming protest in New York. We also have the gory details of how the right wing think tanks are already using the market shock to push for some old fashioned economic shock therapy.

We send this with an urgent request: please, don’t be silent. If you have read the book, you know that this is precisely the kind of moment in which we stand to lose (or gain) it all. If we are slow, the radical changes will be locked in; if the Bush Administration gets its way, the actions taken this week will not be subject to repeal or to any legal challenge. So write letters to the editor, call your elected representatives, contact the Obama campaign, and let them know: the way to solve a crisis born of deregulated capitalism is not with more gifts and giveaways for Wall Street!


Problem is....the Religious Right have this "idea" that God is in this! That this has all been ordained by "the Books of Revelations and Daniel" and that ONLY by kneeling to "this God" [in this case the God of the Greedy] and truly repenting...will Armageddon be put off.

The problem is.... that the leadership, those to set and be the example are "bilking their minions" [take a good look at the 3 fingers that have been pointing back at you who "claim" to be of a Christian nation, with Christian values, etc. but who, as the "money changers", are just doing the job allotted by THOSE IN CHARGE!

Without CHECKS & BALANCES....it does not matter which God you profess! Your LOWEST NATURE will always take charge! And that is exactly what is happening right NOW....thanks to all you temple money changers, who were suppose to be "doing right"! At least that is what "you Claim" thru your vestitures!

Your name today, what you are referred to in countless national agendas is ......NEO-CON!
Profit modus operandi! has been inserted in religions aspirations of the Most Holy ...the most FAITHFUL down thru the ages. And millions and millions of lives have been lost, because of aspirations of the faithful... but Without Checks and Balances!

Where are those "3 fingers" pointing to citizen? Where has Justice and Courage been seen? Real Justice; real courage? And where is the INTEGRITY of the Faithful? General Cop-out /denial has always been , ..."but I am ONLY HUMAN". Yes you are , and THIS is exactly why Ronald Reagan's misdeeds MUST be CHANGED!

His was the platform that less government was good government! Problem is....good government for WHOM? You or I citizen? Or for the Financiers and Corporate elite who HATE Checks & Balances; who will gauge and corrupt the system in order to cut bottom line costs...Costs to them! It gets in the way of their "profits", but always at YOUR expense.

So who has been looking out, and Protecting the Constitution and its people? It sure is not with the crowd we have in Washington, or in the MSM, or in the financiers across the globe. Let's face it America, as the Sadducees had to, BUT DID NOT! How will we stabilize as well as correct our system? Who will begin and implement government where it is necessary, for the Good of the people? Who is willing to be ACCOUNTABLE for the people?

Who will be crucified, and for WHAT? Certainly not the promoters of the Tables of CHANGE! It is not the act that must be OVERTHROWN, but the SYSTEM that allowed these acts to be put in play and exist at the expense of the people hmmmmm

Bring BACK the CHECKS & BALANCES that Reagan and his "bunch" threw out! We need to have "guide posts & judgement" in play on a daily basis, by direction of an UNBIASED COURT, under the guise of The Constitution for THIS nation. Keep Church and State separate! Keep the Constitution in tact, but MOST important,....PROTECTED!

Enough said!
SherriChardonnay
yah know at this point if folks need a surprise to go over to mcgimmick then just support him now. No surprise should make anyone want to vote for mcgimmick...

its intersting, when I make calls for Obama it astounds me when I here folks tell me they are still undecided...i want to ask WTF for...
NamelessGenXer
Gatekeeper - I so admire your passion... good post.

I tend to think RR is right when she says that thawing out Bin Laden is the Oct Surprise...
"See! We caught Bin Laden in Baghdad !" McCain said with his green teeth bared to the press. "Told you the Iraqi's were behind 9/11!"

Off Topic: Have you ever read The Fourth Turning by William Strauss & Neil Howe (1997).

It might make you feel a little better about the current Crisis Era that started on 9/11 (or more accurately with the election of BushCo in 2000) and is the culmination of 40 years of the Culture Wars. Now the time is ripe for a Cyclical Turning: The neo-conservative movement (thanks a lot, Boomers) has run its course, Obama and the Progressives will win the White House, and the reason is as simple as "the national mood".

Gatekeeper
QUOTE (NamelessGenXer @ Sep 23 2008, 01:46 PM) *
Gatekeeper - I so admire your passion... good post.

I tend to think RR is right when she says that thawing out Bin Laden is the Oct Surprise...
"See! We caught Bin Laden in Baghdad !" McCain said with his green teeth bared to the press. "Told you the Iraqi's were behind 9/11!"

Off Topic: Have you ever read The Fourth Turning by William Strauss & Neil Howe (1997).

It might make you feel a little better about the current Crisis Era that started on 9/11 (or more accurately with the election of BushCo in 2000) and is the culmination of 40 years of the Culture Wars. Now the time is ripe for a Cyclical Turning: The neo-conservative movement (thanks a lot, Boomers) has run its course, Obama and the Progressives will win the White House, and the reason is as simple as "the national mood".

I have not read this book , sorry to say, But I promise...I will. Thanks for the comment and the heads up! Both are appreciated! rolleyes.gif


What I hope will happen...and this is why I have the passion I do, is that I have seen a lot of BS go down by "People wanting leadership positions" but NOT willing to take on the Accounting for their Acts, ...or lack there of!

I ask , in all my posts [indirect] that the reader "consider what is being said". A gatekeeper is not a soldier, nor a judge, but a "road sign" at the gate...."think and remember on that which provides life and the freedom to be responsible. Proceed with caution."

Life is precious and fleeting, especially where no one is willing to be Accountable! hmmmmm

Democracy comes at a price, especially to its leaders! Make sure, that what you are paying out,[and you are, more than you realize].....is appreciated by persons of Integrity, conscience, and an "accountable nature".

Our present situation....was brought about by shrewd, and manipulative entrepreneurs and power brokers over a 3 decade period. WHY do we think we can "correct" the situation, by a quick solution, untried and untested! The country is being 'TAKEN DOWN' by persons without conscience, accountability , and integrity....no matter how you cut it.

Shit is Shit, no matter its form. And the clean up, will not be easy....but it MUST BE DONE, and the culprits held accountable! Or we all will eventually become sick and eventually die. Consider the above! But by all means, DO NOT sit on the side lines. Not on this one! dry.gif
Gatekeeper
We're getting close to that Neo-Con event, that will be created for stealing this up coming election thru FEAR!
What's your Guess as to the EVENT and at WHAT ODDS?
hmmmmm ohmy.gif
pestone
Honestly, I think BushCo is going to cut-and-run. They're cowards. They've stolen all they can. It's why they put up McCain and Palin. Prop up a couple of lying talking heads, start the car and get the hell out of Dodge before things really take a crap.
Gatekeeper
Could This Be our October Surprise….war with Pakistan!

http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=...mp;jumival=2391

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“The conflict in Pakistan getting more violent and complex. The US blames Pakistan for not doing enough in fighting for its ‘war on terror,’ while Pakistan is blaming the US for initiating unilateral military operations within its border. And the recent spate of violence is adding fire to the fuel.”……..

War with Iraq was what the NEO-CONS used to get AMERICA into a continuous “war on terror”. And with Pakistan bristling with “nukes”, and an UNSTABLE regime , what better “opportunity for the MICS and our “pending DEBT”, than to get a full fledged war going. SHOOT FIRST….the hell with diplomacy has always been the “mantra” of the Neo-Cons. And control of the Cash Cows {Drug fields and OIL} will definitely provide for the "elitist" bank accounts OFF SHORE, while strapping us with the obligation of patriotism. hmmmm

We will wake up one morning to find out that the "Bushies" have pushed the button: WAR
Gatekeeper
And of Course we have IRAN...which MSM is NOT covering and putting before "We the People".

MSM is the Tool of government, Not the 4th Estate as set up by our Founding Fathers in the Constitution!
http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=...mp;jumival=2399
Gatekeeper
What will the Neo-Cons Do to Bail themselves out??? This elections October Surprise will be huge, you can be sure with the stock market's crash!
Remember the SHOCK Doctrine and what happens when disasters hit! Will we GIVE away our RIGHTS! The only Bail-Out should be put against the portfolios and off shore accounts of the RICH, not the POOR, or the middle class.

Greed and Power Must be put in Check and this is by Accountability of 'all ' CEOs, all Corporate Elitists must PAY in Full. They have Controled the government and the banks and Corporate Greed=Wall Street. People are More important than your portfolios and wealth caves! You did as You chose, you should be HELD totally accountable for WHAT You Have Done with that POWER AND WEALTH. This is a democracy, a republic, Not a elitist Jargonaut! Lipstick on this, is to give acceptance to this...without the Major CEOs and financial Leaders going to JAIL on Long Prison terms! That's David Rockefeller, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Henry Paulson and the rest of the Wall Street cabal! Prison is the ONLY solution to the owners of this Cabal. JUSTICE and Integrity for the people. Do NOT save these clowns!

Do NOT give away your Rights! Palin is what the Neo-Cons have put into play! She is to become the fuhrer with lipstick! This is truly the gates to tyranny and Palin is being used to gather in the hopes of the uninformed, the uneducated to the workings of politics, and to tyranny hidden beneath a layer of lipstick
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Stupid is ...as stupid does! We will be losing our jobs, no matter what the Bail-out does. This depression will not be avoidedThat's inevitable. Don't Give AWAY the FARM! We can survive as a people, If we keep our Rights, and Our heads! Get off the Kool-aide of the Neo-Cons! These turkeys in Washington and Wall Street need to be "brought to Accountability" before any PLAN is accepted.

Paulson said..."our banking system"...."our tool kit" but does not say who "our" is! It's not you or I! It's theirs! And they need to be held Accountable for their Tool kit and Their Banking system!

The Rich must be the ones who Bail Out their system and with their tool kit....if it will even work...or hand over their wealth they made on the backs of the American people. Bail-OUT is by and from those who created it....the Elite!


If you want your country back, if you want democracy to be real, if you truly WANT the Constitution to be held up, and kept intact....Make the wealthy Pay for their debacle, own up for their failing control of Our government! Bail-Out is not the responsibility of Congress! It's clearly in the laps of the RICH, the powerful elite. It's your country and the bills must go to those who created them. The Elite and their Wall Street financials and government.

Vote OUT the Neo-Con agenda! Hold the NEO-CON accountable not only with your VOTE, but with your efforts!

Vote for the ONLY hope for this country...Obama/Biden! Don't buy the "pretty Barbie" and the McCain BS! VOTE for Freedom from the Neo-Con! .
Gatekeeper
http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=...mp;jumival=2399

Why did we not Hear about this Americans? What is going on as the Wall Street debacle is played out?

What you don't KNOW can and will KILL YOU! ex. 9/11; Katrina and Wall Street debacles

The MSM was our ONLY hope, Until the Corporatists Made offers that the MSM just could Not resist! The hell with the Constitution!

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GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

"I don't give a goddamn," Bush retorted. "I'm the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way."

"Mr. President," one aide in the meeting said. "There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution."

"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publ...icle_7779.shtml

Where was FOX , CNN or MSNBC on this Americans?

What You do NOT know will definitely Kill YOU! So what will the OCTOBER SURPRISE do to AMERICANS? FEAR and Intimidation?
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"It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"
Laura
QUOTE (Gatekeeper @ Sep 27 2008, 01:59 AM) *
We're getting close to that Neo-Con event, that will be created for stealing this up coming election thru FEAR!
What's your Guess as to the EVENT and at WHAT ODDS?
hmmmmm ohmy.gif


Not quite sure, except to say that the Repigs will do ANYTHING to win! (once again!) It won't matter that it's illegal, untrue, made-up, pure fantasy, as long as they win!
I think they will probably drum up some more false accusations about Obama being a Muslim....
Starbuck
I believe the bail out was the October surprise. The GOP are trying to use it to show the American people they are rejecting Bush, while at the same time get in more privatization and hamstring the next administration from much needed social spending.
lipsticklobotomy
CBS News Technology Analyst Larry Magid Talks To Some Experts Worried About E-Voting:

http://cbs11tv.com/politics/electronic.vot...s.2.829209.html

DonShafer
I believe the October Surprise started in August with the Georgian Invasion of South Ossetia. Between then and the election, we'll see one manufactured crisis after another, in order to scare the American public into either voting for McCain or Bush to call off the elections.
Gatekeeper
QUOTE (Starbuck @ Sep 30 2008, 12:16 PM) *
I believe the bail out was the October surprise. The GOP are trying to use it to show the American people they are rejecting Bush, while at the same time get in more privatization and hamstring the next administration from much needed social spending.

I believe you are right as to the "start"! But something More has to happen, [axe must fall] in order to get the "herding of the lemmings" effect and Then their stampede over the edge! These Neo-Cons want Total control...nothing less! That means you and I must be "driven to the brink" to give up the rest of our "rights". This is Nazis Germany revisited. You don't recognize it because of the "cloud" that the MSM has been applying!

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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. In the first stage of life the mind is frivolous and easily distracted, it misses progress by failing in consecutiveness and persistence. This is the condition of children and barbarians, in which instinct has learned nothing from experience.
G. Santayana, American philosopher, 1863-1952


Leni Reifenstahl's 1935 movie TRIUMPH OF THE WILL is in play via Karl Rove and the Neo-Cons. It's the same play book! And the Same kind of people. And their WILL has NOT CHANGED!
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"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY." Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag



What will you allow citizen? This is the Question!
SherriChardonnay
QUOTE (Starbuck @ Sep 30 2008, 02:16 PM) *
I believe the bail out was the October surprise. The GOP are trying to use it to show the American people they are rejecting Bush, while at the same time get in more privatization and hamstring the next administration from much needed social spending.

yep yep.....but mcgimmick messed up his part by being erractic last week.
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