If you watch and listen closely, you can make it out. Classic!

"Horseshit!"

TOO FUNNY!

God Bless YouTube!


It will be interesting to see how many hits this clip receives in the next few days.

I think that if the debate went like 15 min longer he would have completely lost his shit

Yeah he said it...McHorseshit is McCrazy. Just imagine his ass as preznit.

This makes it easier to believe he called his wife a trollop and a c*nt. He gets so angry he forgets he's on a live televised debate and lets loose. So yea, it would be easy for him to lose it and press the nuclear button. You can tell by the forced smirk that he's really seething inside.

Perhaps Senator McCain is just calling them as he sees them?

There have been several famous cussers in the Oval Office. In fact, it (cussin') may even be a requirement ................

I'm not suggesting that presidents and candidates don't swear. But it's the temper thing. McCain is one scary SOB.

Through what color glasses?

There was nothing "horseshit" about what Obama said.

You mean, before it's mysteriously yanked?

And IVYTEACH, of course he's "calling them as he sees them."


That's the whole point.

He doesn't even recognize the screw up he made in the interview.

Never will.

Not capable of it.

And yet...he was clueless and classless enough to do it during a televised debate. Very telling.

Your "cussin'" claim is a total straw man.

Of course it was horse shit, McCain didn't mean he wouldn't meet with the European Spain ... it was the socialist anti-American South American Spain he was talking about.

That (bolded) is exactly true. And the problem isn't in the "calling", it's in the "seeing".

McCain has been in the box so long (generations) that he doesn't even know he's in the box. He thinks he understands what Obama is talking about, and can judge it, but the truth is his life experience isn't broad enough to even understand it. He is no friend of the middle class, vets, anyone but himself and those like him or useful to him.

So bully for him, for saying it like he sees it. No more need for personal development in the "saying" department; now it's time for Karma to help him work on the "seeing" department.

Great point. Reminds me of Cheney telling Sen. Leahy to go f*ck himself, on the Senate floor. These Republicans reveal themselves as emotionally immature, like little bullies in the sandbox. How sad that they grew up to be nothing more, nothing less... than just that.

When they are bereft of ideas and solutions, they reach for the lowest common denominator.

Yeah, like Cheney...

It's a typically journalist ploy to pick a name from the list of world leaders and see if it's recognized by a candidate for political office. Think your smart? Then answer the following question without looking it up first ..............

Who is the current President of Azerbaijan?

It's a hot spot in the world. They have Oil. It's predominately a muslim nation. They fought a war with Armenia.


Clue: He's been the President since October of 2003 ...............


Clue: He suceeded his father, who was president since 1993 ......... same last name?


To obscure a nation? Not a major US ally?


How about Norway. Been a Nato member since the inception of the Organization. They border Russia.


Who's the current Pres of Norway?


Oh, don't forget, you MUST pronounce the names correctly as well.



The answers?


Egil Olli -- İlham Aliyev


Now figure which answer goes to what question. THAT should be fairly easy.

Does the Honorable Senator Obama have all the President's and Prime Minister's names memorized?

If you claim that he does, then I have a counter claim ............ "Horseshit".

Not to quibble, but when you challenge people on their smarts it would behoove you to use correct grammar.

Why don't you look up "contractions"?

Well, if I was claiming to be a brain, then you would have me on that point, TwinkleToes.

By the way, who is the current President of Italy?

Off the top of your head ........

"Whoops, those darned contractions".

When you attempt to display your superior intelligence, it might be wise to understand the proper usage of your and you're.

http://www.wikihow.com/Use-You're-and-Your

For example, you're full of horseshit.

Yes, I suppose it is kind of confusing for someone to tell you they were going to ask you a question about Spain, and then they throw you a curve ball and actually asked about Spain ... I can see where that might confuse anyone!




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/18/m...p_n_127449.html

Yeah, he said it was horse shit because he never meant to say he wouldn't talk to the Spanish leader, he made an ass out of himself basically. lol He forgot who the leader of Spain was and he was talking about Latin America in the interview. Randi played it on one of her shows and it was also on Rachel Maddow. McCain kept talking about Latin America and the interviewer had to remind him "Well I'm talking about Europe." Which I think he thought she said "I'm talking about you. Would you meet with the leader of Spain?" I mean I thought she said you instead of Europe. The audio feed that I heard of it was not of good quality. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/18/b...p_n_127346.html
I'm not excusing McCain in anyway though, he should be on his game about these things and for us to have a leader who does an interview like that would be really bad for our relationship with Spain.
To be fair it is debatable whether he said horse shit or not. I've heard stuff about this before. Olbermann thinks he said "of course". Daily Kos thinks he said "horse shit", a lot of people are questioning if he said "horse shit" but on the transcript it says "of course". I dunno what I believe, but it's hilarious regardless.
And Iveatch, if there had been any inclination that Obama said the word horseshit your people would be all over it like a bad habit and talking about how nasty it was of him. So I don't want to hear any excuses for the "horse shit" he might have said. It's against the rules in these debates to use profanity.
Damn I wish I could find the audio of that interview. All I can find is the Spanish version of it. I know Randi has the audio of it because she played it on her show.

Yup, thank god for Youtube. I don't think we had the help of Youtube in 2004 and I know we didn't have it in 2000. It would have helped us a great deal.

How low can they go?

For example this one?




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Or the infamous backwards middle finger salute George Bush gave as he walked through the hallowed halls of Congress a few years ago.

That photo of Giuliani is hilarious.

you know, you are probably my favorite conservative on this board but you are stretching on this one.

first ~ none of us are running for president with claims that we are the best at foreign affairs.

and second ~ mccain made a mistake. he didn't seem to know where spain was in the world and okay shit happens but the least he could do is not utter horseshit when indeed obama was stating a fact that mccain did say that he wasn't sure about meeting with spain.

here is mccains original interview ~ i really don't see any wiggle room to support "horseshit"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIcEa1CLhc8

Giorgio Napolitano. (Easy - I married into an Italian family. )

Nice try at derailing a thread though.

Grampy - clueless and classless.

Thanks for finding that Lucy. I should have known to look on you tube.

BTW: Iveatch, I don't claim to know all of the names of the world leaders, but I am not planning to run as president of the United States, and he should have been educated about that before he went and talked to this reporter.

We aren't insulting his character because he didn't remember the guys name. We are questioning his ability to lead because of that. You would be wise to do that to. Do you want our president going around alienating us from other countries by showing that he know the name of their leader? Do you think that would reflect well on the United States?

Ya mean this one?

or this one?

or this one?

or this one?

The guy is really ready to blow. I knew that he said something there when it happened.... but either he said he would not meet with the president of Spain or he didn't. Grampy should just explain why he thinks that. The guy is a s|!thead, IMHO.


Did I say THAT?

Thank you, AlwaysaLiberal, you're giving a fair rendition of the event. Senator McCain missed the transition from talking about Central America to Spain. This is true even though the interviewer mentioned the segue directly. Sometimes it's just best to cop to misunderstanding the question as opposed to try and bulldog through with no admission of a mistake.

Now why did Senator Obama mention this incident? Did he really think that Senator McCain wouldn't meet with the President of Spain? Senator Obama was getting in a shot at Senator McCain's mistake was all.

It would have been a fair critique if Senator Obama had represented it as a hit against Senator McCain's missing of the topic seque change by the interviewer. Instead he (Senator Obama) offered up a condescending line about "Senator McCain apparently believes that we shouldn't meet with the current President of Spain". This was not Senator McCain's intent. I'm sure that he would meet with the current President of Spain dispite political differences.

Senator Obama was deliberately taking a mistaken statement at face value to get in a dig about Senator MCCain's refusal to concede the mistake in the first place.

Hence the "Horseshit" comment.

touché, TwinkleToes ............ Ciao

Haha. Seriously. That reeks of desperation.

This is SPAIN for chrissakes, not some obscure Latin American country or some Third World Wannabe.

SPAIN.

And McCain claims to be a Foreign Affairs expert!

The journalist wasn't trying to trip him up! She (I think it was a she, I forget since it's been a while since I heard the tape) went out of her way to clarify WHO she was talking about and WHAT COUNTRY she to which she was referring.

And every single time she did, McCain continued on some weird Latin America-Western Hemisphere-centric rant/talking point.

I mean, the reporter gave him the name of the official, for pete's sake, all McCain had to do is go "spain. will we talk with spain. . . .yes, one of our NATO allies, we will talk to spain. . . "

It really wasn't that hard a question!

In fact, he was given multiple opportunities to admit to the gaff, the long and drawn-out gaff, by the way, from which he was given several opportunities within the interview to recover. But not only did he not admit to the "mistake," but he later sent out his surrogates to say he knew exactly what he was talking about and that he could not commit to any sort of meeting with Spain. Pretty bizarre way to try to recover one's footing!

So, in fact he did say he wouldn't take a meeting with the leader of Spain! And, McCain is right about one thing, that was a "horseshit" thing to do!

Nixon, for example, cursed up a storm. And look how well that worked for him.

For the record, I don't think anyone is naive enough to think that our leaders don't engage in colorful language, just as I'm sure many of us do.

However, I would be loathe to mumble "horsehit" if I were representing my brand on TV.

Just not a good display of discipline and self-control.

No offense, but...this is not the same thing as mentioning Spain and having McCain answer as though it's part of Latin America.

It's not even the same as assuming a VP candidate knows what the 'Bush doctrine' is.

This is a straw man argument.

By the way folks, don't forget to email this clip to everyone you know, including your fundy friends! People need to be informed. Maybe even a complaint to the FCC is in order. He spent more time saying "horse shit" in a closeup than Janet Jackson spent with her nipple exposed in a distant shot.

Horse apples. The FOLLOW UP...McCain stuck with the story even after his handlers had time with him.

Exactly ... when asked the next day what the hell was McCain talking about, his staff clarified that he was indeed talking about Spain ... the European Spain, and not that socialist anti-American Latin American Spain.

So, when Obama said that it was unclear whether McCain would even meet with Spain, he was stating a fact stated by McCain's own confused words and confirmed by McCain's staff.

There was no "horse shit" in Obama's statement so get over it ... your guy is just an angry old white guy who is not very smart. He's proven he stupidity all his life ... he was a sub par student, less than average in everything he's attempted, and if it weren't for the supposed fact that he is a "hero" was tortured in the service of his country he would probably be sitting in some VA hospital under psychiatric observation for PTSD.

Or just plain old professionalism.

No, that's required of Obama, at all times, cameras on or off.

Angry old white men get to do whatever they please, just as they have done their entire lives.

Oh I know. Imagine a Black woman with Sarah Palin's resume, incomprehensible sentence structure, and massive ethics issues. She wouldn't make the 1st cut of interviews for a JOB, much less nomination for VP.

GMAMFB.

At least Dick "Expletive Deleted" Nixon had the sense not to cuss in front of the camera.

When your temper is worse than Nixon's, look out world.

I agree with you there. A wise man is not afraid to admit his ignorance and ask a question of his own. Only a fool would hide his ignorance and press on.

More video's of it, Rate them all 5 and favorite them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=479ybG-bKrg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTNi6-jz8nA...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T12p4788cvk...feature=related

It has occurred to me that what's really going on with McCain in this incident (the reporter's question about the Spanish Prime Minister) is he doesn't LISTEN--whether as a result of his PTSD or just being old. The question, though posed with a strong accent, was CLEAR. His answer was obfuscated at best--why not just say, "no, I'd never meet with that slimey Spaniard" or "of COURSE I'd meet with any NATO ally!"?

It's an unrepentant gaffe--whether or not he said "horseshit" later during the debates is unimportant.

McCain's way of answering questions are as bizarre as Sarah Palin's but for some reason, he gets a pass.

anyone know at what point during the debate this happened? I'm trying to find it. I mean how far into the debate time wise?

IVEATCH--- On your point about exlpoiting a mistake in speaking, oh, your side never did that did they? They always run on truth and honor and integrity, right? They show it all the time in elections, right? Shrub has never let KKKarl exploit someone ever? Really, not even Magoo's adopted child in a whisper poll? C'mon, if you can do it, why can't we? We don't profess to be always right, but we do love to fight fire with fire.

Never mind I found it. Its at about 1 hour, 10 min and 50 seconds in. You can watch it on Hulu.com in case you want to hear it without worrying about it being doctored.

Go ahead. Talk like a sterotype Republican. Act like a sterotype Republican.

Question: How do you tell the difference between a Republican and a Democrat walking down the street?

Answer: The one who is fighting fire with fire is the Democrat. The other who is fighting fire with fire is a Republican. They both think that the other "started it".

no, he has a horrible temper, privileged and spoiled as he is, and would be a complete disaster with access to the launching codes...not to mention the disaster palin would be, to not accept these basic facts is sheer delusion. everyone who knows him in the senate knows he has an explosive and dangerous temper, and yet 40 million people would rather have him as president even though he could obliterate the planet, for mere politics...makes me angry, but i dont expect you to get it...

anymore than I expect my brother/business partner who has a signed pic of the two idiots in his office

One more time. Barack was NOT exploiting a misstatement! AFTER, WAY AFTER the event, McCain, through his surrogates STUCK by his anti-Spanish nonsense.