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kernaljessup
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/15/business...amp;oref=slogin

November 15, 2007
Foreclosures Hit a Snag for Lenders
By GRETCHEN MORGENSON

A federal judge in Ohio has ruled against a longstanding foreclosure practice, potentially creating an obstacle for lenders trying to reclaim properties from troubled borrowers and raising questions about the legal standing of investors in mortgage securities pools.

Judge Christopher A. Boyko of Federal District Court in Cleveland dismissed 14 foreclosure cases brought on behalf of mortgage investors, ruling that they had failed to prove that they owned the properties they were trying to seize.

The pooling of home loans into securities has been practiced for decades and helped propel real estate prices in recent years as investors sought the higher yields that such mortgage trusts could provide. Some $6.5 trillion of securitized mortgage debt was outstanding at the end of 2006.

But as foreclosures have surged, the complex structure and disparate ownership of mortgage securities have made it harder for borrowers to work out troubled loans, in part because they cannot identify who holds the mortgage notes, consumer advocates say.

Now, the Ohio ruling indicates that the intricacies of the mortgage pools are starting to create problems for lenders as well. Lawyers for troubled homeowners are expected to seize upon the district judge’s opinion as a way to impede foreclosures across the country or force investors to settle with homeowners. And it may encourage judges in other courts to demand more documentation of ownership from lenders trying to foreclose.

The ruling was issued Oct. 31 by Judge Boyko, and relates to 14 foreclosure cases brought by Deutsche Bank National Trust Company. The bank is trustee for securitization pools, issued as recently as June 2006, claiming to hold mortgages underlying the foreclosed properties.

On Oct. 10, Judge Boyko, 53, ordered the lenders’ representative to file copies of loan assignments showing that the lender was indeed the owner of the note and mortgage on each property when the foreclosure was filed. But lawyers for Deutsche Bank supplied documents showing only an intent to convey the rights in the mortgages rather than proof of ownership as of the foreclosure date...



Oh I remember randi talking about this. So long ago...

Q:How are you gonna put a price on something you can not prove you own? huh.gif

A: uber wall street bailout!

fla1sun
QUOTE (kernaljessup @ Sep 28 2008, 07:12 PM) *
Oh I remember randi talking about this. So long ago...

Q:How are you gonna put a price on something you can not prove you own? huh.gif

A: uber wall street bailout!



Yay!
jammonius
New Bailout bill does give 'lip service' to protections for homeowners seeking to keep their homes, too. Just as Obama promised.
jkun17
QUOTE (jammonius @ Sep 28 2008, 05:32 PM) *
New Bailout bill does give 'lip service' to protections for homeowners seeking to keep their homes, too. Just as Obama promised.

What? What the hell?

You bitch and moan and bitch and moan that the bill won't protect homeowners -- then the bill includes protections for homeowners and it's just 'lip service'?

There's just no way to win with you. You're just as pigheaded, intellectually and critically dim as the the fools on the right. You pass judgment on the results of a bill that hasn't even been passed yet much more enacted. What the hell do you want? Promises aren't enough. Putting it into a bill isn't enough...
kernaljessup
QUOTE (jkun17 @ Sep 28 2008, 08:41 PM) *
What? What the hell?

You bitch and moan and bitch and moan that the bill won't protect homeowners -- then the bill includes protections for homeowners and it's just 'lip service'?

There's just no way to win with you. You're just as pigheaded, intellectually and critically dim as the the fools on the right. You pass judgment on the results of a bill that hasn't even been passed yet much more enacted. What the hell do you want? Promises aren't enough. Putting it into a bill isn't enough...



I just love the date on the article...

November 15, 2007
Foreclosures Hit a Snag for Lenders
By GRETCHEN MORGENSON
TapDuncan
Wow. the past IS prologue. JKUN-- Did you even read the date? That was more or less a prediction, not a present tense fact.
kernaljessup
QUOTE (TapDuncan @ Sep 29 2008, 05:45 PM) *
Wow. the past IS prologue. JKUN-- Did you even read the date? That was more or less a prediction, not a present tense fact.


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