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Eyeswideopen
May 22, 2008 -- Palfrey death not suicide say US intelligence sources

A number of US intelligence sources have told WMR that they do not believe that the so-called Washington Madam, Deborah Jeane Palfrey, committed suicide by hanging herself on May 1.

Palfrey's mother Blanche Palfrey said in an interview that her daughter was writing a book at the time of her death. The book was certain to have been a tell-all about the high-level clients of her Pamela Martin & Associates escort agency, which, during its thirteen years in operations, catered to Washington's, Baltimore's, and Annapolis' top Republican political elite. WMR has previously reported that Vice President Dick Cheney was among the clients of Pamela Martin while he served as CEO of Halliburton in the 1990s.

One US intelligence source said the Palfrey's hanging bore the attributes of US-supported Latin American death squad assassinations common in the 1980s and early 1990s, as well as political murders, especially of women, carried out by the former Soviet KGB.

Another US intelligence source adamantly said, "there is no way this woman [Palfrey] took her own life."

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com

egghead
Well, it's not like "they" didn't have motive -- as our buddy Cheney says -- BIGTIME!!!

I'm so sorry that she's not with us anymore - both on a human level, and a political level.
airbor504
On its face it looks very suspicious. Whatever happened to the list of phone numbers?
Laura
Well, don't that beat all! ANOTHER CONSPIRACY COVER UP! JUST LIKE MLK, KENNEDY, PRINCESS DIANA, ET ALL....!! I THINK WE ALL KNEW THAT SHE DID NOT KILL HERSELF! angry.gif
bushwa
The "numbers" remain out there in the ether, posted on the web, in the hands of journalists, and of course as part of the court record. I guess everyone has forgotten the madame's phone bills were posted on line for a while, a pleading invitation for techno geeks the world over to help poor Deborah by reviewing them to find SOMEONE big enough among her clients to help her escape and conviction.

Classic Wayne Madsen, though there IS an unusual delay with this story. He typically descends from his branch to pick the bones of the dead when the carcass is much fresher than Palfrey's is (A task typically made easier because, when one writes fictions, there isn't a lot of legwork and research to be done).

But here we find all the hallmarks of the typical Wayne Madsen fiction sold to dupes; No named sources for anyone who "spoke" to Madsen about ANY aspect of the case named - not so much as a named cop who tells him on the record, "Yup, she's dead;" statements from alleged public interviews are not even sourced to the publication they supposedly came from, scads of evidence that conflicts with his fictional tale is never mentioned, and of course the spammer's commercial for Wayne Madsen appears at the bottom - those following the link to see if Wayne perhaps provides more information or substance at his site will only find they have to pay - even to see just as much as been posted here. (FYI, he does not provide more substance one you're inside.)

I am kinda surprised Wayne didn't flog the quote from Palfrey that most nutjobs hold up as their defining "proof" that Palfrey was "suicided," and that's a line they interpret to mean she said she'd never kill herself. In fact, it's a quote from a year or two before her death that was actually something to the effect of, "I'm no Brandy Britton."

Britton's was a sad story and, for me, quite interesting. She was a former anthropology professor who reportedly became involved in some research-funds-related scams, then ended up as a prostitute. The point being, however, is that she killed herself just as her trial was to begin. In that case there was lots of evidence that she'd been declared to be clinically depressed and a suicide risk. Many have taken Palfrey's statement to mean that she'd never kill herself as Britton did.

Alas, the nutjobs ignore, and gosh darn it Wayne never gets around to mentioning, that Palfrey far more recently told a Washington Post interviewer that she'd never go to jail, and she'd rather die first. She also told ABC News that she'd never go back to prison. (She was jailed for prostitution once before, in the 1990's)

I'm interested to see that Wayne (and all others on this board) never addresses the tiny conflict between Palfrey's position in court - her pledge that she never engaged in sex with clients, and never knew of any of her girls engaging in sex with clients (they were merely paid escorts for company and arm candy), and her simultaneous assertion that her girls had sex with the high and mighty of D.C. With Palfrey - a woman who earned her living by taking a share of the money men paid to other women to have sex with them - one could never be sure WHEN she was lying, because she told an AWFUL lot of lies.

A more interesting and substantive point Wayne never gets to - aside from all the forensics and coroner reports that conclude Palfrey killed herself and there's no reason to doubt it - is the little matter of Palfrey's three suicide notes, all of which her mother and her sister confirmed she wrote. (Just incidentally, they say they also have her notes and journals - sloppy assassins, huh?)

Isn't it funny that two things Wayne doesn't mention or address in a story about a woman who died a few weeks before she was to present herself to begin serving her prison sentence is that Palfrey said she'd rather die than go to jail, and that her family confirmed the legitimacy of the suicide notes?

And hey, we're not talking about 3-4 line notes suspiciously banged out on a typewriter or word processor, here. No, these are notes giving directions to her mother and sister, talking about how she'll now see other deceased family members, and explaining her decision to die.

Wayne Madsen is a charlatan and fraud, and anyone who gives him money having been warned about him is a fool. I don't know if Madsen pays or in some other way compensates those who send potential buyers to his site. But there seems to be no other obvious explanation for repeatedly advertising it.

For those who haven't seen them, here are Palfrey's suicide notes.





X-Ray-Spex
Ha, I knew suicide was WAY too convenient. angry.gif
Eyeswideopen
Bushwa, your ad hominem attacks on Madsen continue with such vehemence, that one wonders what your agenda is. It seems you are almost always defending the official story, no matter what the issue is. I am not accusing you of being a government plant. Neither am I accusing you of knowing that you are misstating facts. But, again, your assertions are not factually correct with regard to Madsen and his work.

Your OPINION is well known on the subject, but your facts and logic continue to be faulty. I will return to this thread when I have the time to address your "mistakes" point by point. Not now.

For now, I will just say that you seem to have a bias against real journalists who are independent of the mainstream media. So I might think your bias is not personal against Madsen, but then there are the accusations of his being a "fraud" and a "charlatan". Yes, according to the rules of the board, you can say anything about a public figure without fear of reprisal, but aren't you obligated, in good conscience, to back up your attempts at character assassination with evidence? It is a very serious charge to accuse a journalist of being untruthful in his reports. I should think that it is incumbent on anyone who tries to ruin someone's reputation, or smear his character, to have facts to back up the charges made. I have asked you for proof before and you have never supplied it. Again, evidence please.
Eyeswideopen
July 22, 2008 -- SPECIAL REPORT. "Washington Madam" story still percolating

Although a concerted effort by U.S. judge for the District of Columbia James Robertson, Justice Department prosecutors, and the office of Vice President Dick Cheney seeks to place a clamp on any further revelations about the late "Washington Madam" Deborah Jeane Palfrey and her Pamela Martin & Associates (PMA) escort service, WMR has obtained further details about the case.

Palfrey allegedly took her own life by hanging herself in a utility shed next to mother's Tarpon Springs, Florida home on May 1, 2008. However, according to informed sources, the official Tarpon Springs police report on Palfrey's death is incomplete and is still being written, almost three months after her reported "suicide."

WMR has also learned that Palfrey told some close associates that she attempted to kill herself at her Orlando condominium by overdosing on pills three weeks prior to her hanging death. However, there was no official report of the Orlando incident filed with authorities.

WMR has also learned additional details of the nature of the services offered by some of PMA's escorts. WMR has obtained information that two escorts, one based in Maryland and the other in Virginia, were highly-sought-after dominatrices who specialized in performing sexual acts for clients who suffered from forms of sexual dysfunction, including paralysis. WMR reported in the past that Dick Cheney, when the chief of Halliburton, availed himself of the services of PMA escorts and was particularly fond of "toilet sports." The dominatrices employed by PMA sexually performed for what can be described as masturbatory spectator clients. Counted among these were some of Washington's most powerful politicians and business elite.

From the beginning, according to WMR sources close to the case, the White House, Justice Department, and top lawyers in Washington tried everything possible to get Palfrey and her PMA escorts off the front pages of the papers to prevent any further collateral damage from her federal indictment for fraud-related charges. The move to quash any more revelations about the case, such as those that enmeshed Senator David Vitter (R-LA), former US Agency for International Development director Randall Tobias, and Cheney military strategy adviser Harlan Ullman, also involved having U.S. Judge Gladys Kessler removed from the case. Kessler, who preceded Robertson as trial judge in the Palfrey case, was reportedly the recipient of unprecedented pressure from the White House and other quarters after she made a couple of rulings that were favorable to Palfrey.

Palfrey's assets were frozen by the Justice Department but now, sources familiar with the case, report that a secret deal is being worked out between Judge Robertson, the Justice Department, and Palfrey's estate lawyer to unfreeze the financial assets, reported to be around $1.5 million and allot a portion of them to Palfrey's next-of-kin. All this, according to WMR's sources, is to ensure continued silence in the case by all parties.


(snip)

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
5by5
Bushwa, a few things.....

1.) Eyes is not a "spammer", but a member in good standing who's been not only on this board, but the last one as well, for as long as I can remember, so cut the crap. I respect you too, but that was lame.

2.) It isn't a "commercial" at the bottom of Eye's post, it's a link to the original source of his story, which is something we all like to have on this board.

3.) Nice post of the "suicide" note. Because nobody's EVER forged one of those.....

4.) Considering who Ms. Palfrey was implicating, and the fact that they specifically stated, "If you find me dead, know that I did NOT commit suicide", it's far from outlandish to propose that maybe, just maybe, something squirrelly was afoot. Indeed, considering the PARTICULAR bunch of men we're talking about, it's even LIKELY that they would pull a stunt like this. Does it mean they necessarily did? No. But certainly a more thorough INDEPENDENT investigation is in order, and it is suspicious how this story shall we say, "aggressively evaporated" from the news cycle in the corporate press.

5.) The reason why I say a stunt like this is likely, is because this gov't more broadly has ruled even more obvious politically inconvenient murders as supposed "suicides", as in the case of Pfc. LaVena Johnson. They ruled she "died of self-inflicted, noncombat injuries," this, despite the fact that she was happy prior to her death and gave no indication of suicidal thoughts, was found in a contractor's quarters, there was a blood trail outside her quarters, her genitals had been burned with acid, she was covered with bruises, someone had tried to burn her body, and according to residue tests, she'd never touched the gun that killed her. But nope, this gov't maintains she committed "suicide".

The words "my ASS" come to mind.......
Seeker1
QUOTE (5by5 @ Jul 23 2008, 10:26 AM) *
3.) Nice post of the "suicide" note. Because nobody's EVER forged one of those.....


It's handwritten, not typewritten. Therefore, it can be subjected to handwriting analysis.

I guess one could still argue she was forced to write it at gunpoint, but...

Anyway, I love Wayne's little "euphemisms".

"Toilet sports" means they liked the dominatrix to urinate on them.


who
Remember how ABC spiked Brian Ross's story on this case?

QUOTE
ABC News Shielding Cheney after DC Madam Hanging?

http://suzieqq.wordpress.com/2008/05/07


Florida police made public two notes handwritten by Deborah Jeane Palfrey this weekend, touching off debate on whether her hanging was in fact suicide or staged to look so. At least one reporter is claiming the DC Madam mentioned she’d kill herself before returning to prison, but another interviewer has aired recent audio of Palfrey warning that if she was found dead, it would be murder.

Initial reports of Palfrey’s death conclusively ruled it a suicide, unbelievable considering the magnitude of the sensitive secrets she held. I first heard the news on an NPR broadcast Thursday afternoon which included an official’s soundbyte on how relatives are victimized in suicides, a strange generalization that pointed blame at Palfrey for hurting her own mother before any other details of the case were released. This statement was attached to the breaking news by an “imbedded pundit”, only raising suspicion of media manipulation in the earliest going.

Any intelligent debate is impossible with this lack of detail available so far. We’re told the letters were penned a few days before her body was discovered hanged in her mother’s shed, left on a nearby motel stand, though we don’t know when investigators first saw them. Police say relatives confirmed her handwriting, but we know virtually nothing about their opinion on the letters, her physical condition or other clues. Her autopsy was conducted quietly and quickly, though a final report is due this week after toxicology results come in.

Palfrey’s note used a number of clichéd expressions, strangely including “modern day lynching”, referring to the extremely selective enforcement that found her guilty in federal court and a darkly ironic reference to her impending manner of death.

Among her known clients were current Louisiana Senator Vitter, former AIDS Czar Randall Tobias, Dick Morris and military-industrial wonk Harlan Ullman, but Dick Cheney’s McLean, VA phone number, reported earlier was summarily un-reported after a turnaround by ABC News.

ABC anchor Sam Donaldson has also been a rumored client, along with a law partner of Rudy Giuliani, associates of Jack Abramoff and many more Pentagon, DC and corporate insiders on a list of over 10,000 numbers.

According to early accounts, ABC News correspondent Brian Ross had the exclusive scoop because Palfrey turned over years-long call lists for his staff to verify. After Cheney turned up on the list, the story, already on the ABC website and poised to run on 20/20, suddenly went away.

No explanation has been offered as to why ABC reversed itself. Any mention of Cheney was scrubbed from their website and the 20/20 piece never ran. Vitter and Tobias had already admitted whoring, so the mainstream press continues to carry the DC Madam story without mentioning Cheney, excepting DC blogsman Wayne Madsen, who says his reporting is corroborated by multiple sources, all but daring Cheney to sue. The trial’s verdict received little coverage and a scheduled Vitter was never subpoaened.
bushwa
QUOTE (who @ Jul 23 2008, 07:54 AM) *
Remember how ABC spiked Brian Ross's story on this case?



So maybe ABC suicided her?
cocotroll
Personally, I think her death was as convenient to some as Ken Lay's was. These people have no regard for life. It is not a stretch to believe Madsen on this, no matter what you think of his reporting.
Eyeswideopen
The following article is taken from the Wayne Madsen Report, a paid site. If you click the link posted below, you will not be able to access the article, unless you are a paid member. I am listing the link for attribution purposes.

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com

October 6, 2008 -- Pamela Martin connection to Interior sex and drugs scandal?

WMR has discovered a possible link between the Interior Department's Minerals Management Service (MMS) sex and drugs scandal, exposed last month by the Interior Department's Inspector General, and Pamela Martin and Associates (PMA), the escort service run by the late Deborah Jeane Palfrey, who, under suspicious circumstances, reportedly committed suicide in Florida in May.

The MMS grants lucrative leases to oil and natural gas companies to drill and extract oil and natural gas on federally-owned public lands. The IG discovered that MMS employees were receiving gratuities from oil and natural gas companies and engaging in improper sexual activities and illegal drug use. Chevron, Condoleezza Rice's old firm, refused to cooperate in the investigation of the MMS' activities.

WMR has discovered the Arlington, Virginia phone number [703-979-8527) of a federal energy regulatory official on the phone list of PMA from October 2000. The number was matched using the 2000 edition of Haines Cross Cross Directory. Moreover, the individual in question participated in the fixing of utility rates in California that saw windfall profits for Enron in a scandal that was used by Enron's chairman Kenneth Lay and Arnold Schwarzenegger to bring down California Democratic Governor Gray Davis in a recall drive. The federal official's name appears on e-mails between Enron Capital & Trade Resources Corp. and Federal Energy Regulatory Commission's OMTR-Energy Markets. OMTR was the Office of Markets, Tariffs, and Rates and is now known as the Office of Energy Markets and Reliability or OEMR.

WMR was the first to report a connection between PMA and various top level clients in the oil industry, particularly Halliburton while Vice President Dick Cheney headed up the firm.

WMR discovered in 1999 PMA phone records another Arlington, Virginia number (703-769-4248) associated with a firm engaged involved in geo-thermal energy production and gold mining on lands under the purview of the MMS.

WMR also previously reported a link between PMA and the scandal surrounding poker parties attended by former CIA Director Porter Goss and Kyle "Dusty" Foggo at Washington, DC hotels. Escorts were driven to the gatherings by Shirlington Limousine, which was implicated in the so-called "DC Madam" scandal by sources close to Palfrey. Foggo, the former Executive Director of the CIA, recently pleaded guilty to a single corruption charge stemming from the contract and influence-peddling scandal that enmeshed Brent Wilkes, owner of ADCS, Inc. and Mitchell Wade of MZM. Both firms were closely connected to top Republicans. Palfrey, before she died, confirmed that Brent Wilkes phoned her from Poway, California, the headquarters of ADCS.

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pestone
QUOTE (Seeker1)
I guess one could still argue she was forced to write it at gunpoint, but...

"Write your suicide note so we can hang you, or we'll shoot you in the head."
5by5
I bet they miss the old days when they could just dope somebody up on LSD for 5 days in a row, and then "encourage" him to jump out of a 10th story window, and nobody would ask pesky questions about it......
SickupandFed
Look when someone says if I turn up dead it won't be suicide, believe them!!!!!
Spyderbyte
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Seeker1
QUOTE (pestone @ Oct 6 2008, 01:21 PM) *
"Write your suicide note so we can hang you, or we'll shoot you in the head."


... uh, don't know about you, but once I know I'm going to die anyway, the threat of death is no longer a coercion.

... is manner of death that important to people? Maybe. I guess women do prefer taking pills to shooting themselves.


XenaWP
I believe she was taken out.
Seeker1
QUOTE (XenaWP @ Oct 7 2008, 02:34 AM) *
I believe she was taken out.


I believe Andy Kaufman is still alive.

Question is, is there any evidence for your belief, or mine?

P.S. can anyone link to the interview where she said, "if I turn up dead, it won't be suicide"?


Hannibal
QUOTE (Eyeswideopen @ Oct 6 2008, 01:11 PM) *
The following article is taken from the Wayne Madsen Report, a paid site. If you click the link posted below, you will not be able to access the article, unless you are a paid member. I am listing the link for attribution purposes.

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com

October 6, 2008 -- Pamela Martin connection to Interior sex and drugs scandal?

<snip>


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If your only source of information for a particular topic is an inaccessible site, you may copy and paste part of an article from that source provided you state clearly at the beginning of the post that your source requires payment or registration to read it and that you could find the information nowhere else.

When you provide a link to an article the link must go directly to the article. Do not post a link to a home page of a site that contains that article.

Get it?
TammyStickers
QUOTE (Eyeswideopen @ May 22 2008, 05:01 PM) *


Do we have this from a credible source?
Seeker1
QUOTE (Seeker1 @ Oct 7 2008, 07:48 AM) *
P.S. can anyone link to the interview where she said, "if I turn up dead, it won't be suicide"?


BTW, I can't find that quote. It's weird. There are several places where it is said she said it, and yet - the interview doesn't appear to exist.

On the other hand, there is a sourceable interview where she said,

Suicide Before Prison
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,...1736687,00.html

She wasn't going to jail, she told me that very clearly. She told me she would commit suicide," author Dan Moldea told TIME soon after news broke of her body being found in Tarpon Springs, Florida, an apparent suicide.

[snip]

BTW, one week before she died, she turned over the running of an alumni web site to another person - although she didn't state the reason.
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=25&sid=1401103


5by5
QUOTE (Hannibal @ Oct 7 2008, 05:18 AM) *
When you provide a link to an article the link must go directly to the article. Do not post a link to a home page of a site that contains that article.

He printed the proper disclaimer in post #14.

Get it?

Now GET OVER IT.
Hannibal
QUOTE (5by5 @ Oct 7 2008, 12:33 PM) *
He printed the proper disclaimer in post #14.

Get it?

Now GET OVER IT.


Learn to read. The rule states "Do not post a link to a home page of a site that contains that article."

SHE posted a link to a home page.

Do YOU Get it?

Good.
bushwa
QUOTE (Seeker1 @ Oct 7 2008, 09:13 AM) *
BTW, I can't find that quote. It's weird. There are several places where it is said she said it, and yet - the interview doesn't appear to exist. ...



I actually believe I recall coming across that quote myself, something like a year before the trial began. Frankly, I don't care enough to go looking for it again, but I am about 95% I DID see it in a story and will vouch for it. It was along with something like, "I'm no Brandy," a reference to another madame who had at that time just killed herself previous to trial. In fact, I NOW seem to recall the Palfry quote may have appeared in a lengthy piece about that other madame - a former college professor.

Thing is, those who want to shriek and bounce over the quote from one year prior to the trial then clap hands over their ears and start humming loudly when confronted with the record of what Palfry said a year later.

Suddenly, Palfrey quotes don't matter. Her suicide notes don't matter. Her mother and sister authenticating the notes don't matter. The absence of any credible evidence of a murder rather than suicide don't matter. The record is suspect and unreliable on any information conflicting with a DC conspiracy and murder, and there is no question about the absolute reliability and finality of all speculation that supports it. (Sound familiar?)

She tried to bullshit and threaten her way out of indictment, then out of trial. because her intimations and implications weren't true, they didn't scare anyone, and so the prosecutors had nothing slowing them down. Once she faced jail, she took the way out that - once it became a real possibility - she had told reporters and friends she would.
bushwa
QUOTE (bushwa @ Oct 7 2008, 12:04 PM) *
I actually believe I recall coming across that quote myself, something like a year before the trial began. ...



A clarification: I came across the quote referenced at about the time Palfry killed herself. The statement was made about a year before her trial started. That's my recollection.

What I first wrote MIGHT imply I saw Palfry's "no suicide" quote a year before the suicide, and that's not the case.

Eyeswideopen
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may20...ape_ignored.htm

Corporate Media Ignores Palfrey’s Statement She Would Not Commit Suicide

Media reports claim of conspiracy debunker with a history of fabricating quotes yet blackballs DC Madam's recorded statement that she would never commit suicide

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Friday, May 2, 2008


Within hours of the announcement that DC Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey had allegedly hanged herself at her mother's home in Florida, Time Magazine released an interview with her "friend," a professional conspiracy debunker and an individual who has fabricated quotes in the past, who claimed Palfrey had told him of her wish to end her life.

Only the dangerously naive could take this report at face value without being massively suspicious.

“She wasn’t going to jail, she told me that very clearly. She told me she would commit suicide,” Dan Moldea told Time Magazine. “She had done time once before [for prostitution],” Moldea recalls. “And it damn near killed her. She said there was enormous stress — it made her sick, she couldn’t take it, and she wasn’t going to let that happen to her again.”

The fact that the corporate media has given Moldea's claim a thousand times more attention than our recorded interview with Palfrey - in which she unequivocally states that she would never commit suicide on multiple occasions - and treated his words as gospel, tells its own story.

We have the audio tape in which Palfrey states, "No I'm not planning to commit suicide, I'm planning on going into court and defending myself vigorously and exposing the government."

What does Moldea have apart from a history of fabricating quotes and his own agenda?


Moldea bills himself as an "investigative journalist," and is writing a book about the DC Madam case, but a closer look at his past activities proves that he is nothing less than an unreliable conspiracy debunker.

(snip)

The fact that the corporate media immediately accepted Moldea's claim at face value and featured it front and center within hours of the announcement of Palfrey's death, while completely ignoring her recorded intention never to commit suicide, smacks of a contrived ploy and underscores just how easy it would be to make murder look like suicide with the aid of a graciously compliant mass media to endlessly parrot the official story while blackballing clear evidence to the contrary.

As Kurt Nimmo writes, "It is, for the corporate media, a tidy way to close the case and not breach a larger and more far more portentous issue — Deborah Jeane Palfrey, who threatened to release the names of well-known clients of her call girl business in Washington, had made an unknown number of powerful enemies that wanted her dead. She had indicated Dick Cheney may have been one of her customers."

What really happened to Deborah Jeane Palfrey will ultimately emerge and the reasons behind her death will unravel, but don't count on reading it in the New York Times or seeing it reported on CNN.

The alternative media will once again be forced step up to the plate and perform an activity that has been anathema to the corporate press for decades - real investigative journalism and an agenda geared towards finding out - not covering-up - the truth.



RELATED: DC Madam Predicted She Would Be Suicided

RELATED: Palfrey Considered Call Girl's "Suicide" Possible Murder

Eyeswideopen
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may20...m_predicted.htm

Go to the link above and click to hear the interview with the D.C. Madam, in which she said she would not commit suicide.
Eyeswideopen
http://www.wesh.com/news/16142638/detail.html

Building Manager: DC Madam's Death Not Suicide

POSTED: 8:54 pm EDT May 2, 2008
UPDATED: 9:27 pm EDT May 2, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- The building manager of a Central Florida condo said he spent time talking to Deborah Jean Palfrey on Monday as she packed to go to her mother's house and she did not seem suicidal.

Deborah Jean Palfrey has many ties to Central Florida. For the past 12 years she's owned a condo at Park Lake Towers in Orlando.


The building manager, who did not want to show his face, talked with Palfrey Monday before she left for her mother's in Tarpon Springs. He strongly believes Palfrey's death was not a suicide.

"Jean Palfrey was a class act. She wore very good clothes. She was well educated. Her way out of this world certainly would not have been in an aluminum shed attached to a mobile home in Tarpon Springs, Florida," he said.

Palfrey was convicted of running a high-profile escort service for Washington's elite and faced a sentencing this summer that would likely lead to many years in prison. But she was found hanged Thursday at her mother's home and investigators said they have no doubt it was a suicide.

"A couple handwritten notes. At least one note was found inside residence indicating her intent to take her life," Capt. Jeffrey Young of the Tarpon Springs Police Department said of Palfrey's death.

Palfrey’s building manager said she often told him she believed she was being followed and he thinks there may have been some former clients of her escort service who wanted her dead.

"She insinuated that there is a contract out for her and I fully believe they succeeded," her building manager said.

Palfrey's Lexus is still parked in the Park Lake garage and the staff said on Monday, she asked about making sure her condo fees would continue to be paid during what Palfrey anticipated would be six years in prison.

They said she left that day with some suitcases and a box.

"She had one white paper file box that she told me had some important paper with her and then she just kind of raised her eyebrows like you're supposed to think oh yeah, that's all the information that she had on her business in Washington," her building manager said.

(snip)
Eyeswideopen
Feds Seek to Gag D.C. Madam

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years...71palfrey1.html



ABC's Ross: DC Madam's List Includes White House & Pentagon Officials, Prominent Lawyers

ABC News' Brian Ross revealed tonight that the list of customers of an alleged Washington-based prostitution service includes White House and Pentagon officials as well as prominent attorneys.

"There are thousands of names, tens of thousands of phone numbers," Ross said. "And there are people there at the Pentagon, lobbyists, others at the White House, prominent lawyers --- a long, long list." Ross added that the women who worked for the service, potentially as prostitutes,"include university professors, legal secretaries, scientists, military officers."

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/28/ross-white-house-madam/
Seeker1
QUOTE (bushwa @ Oct 7 2008, 03:04 PM) *
I actually believe I recall coming across that quote myself, something like a year before the trial began. Frankly, I don't care enough to go looking for it again, but I am about 95% I DID see it in a story and will vouch for it. It was along with something like, "I'm no Brandy," a reference to another madame who had at that time just killed herself previous to trial. In fact, I NOW seem to recall the Palfry quote may have appeared in a lengthy piece about that other madame - a former college professor.


I think you may be talking about this quote in Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Jeane_Palfrey

In early 2007, Palfrey reacted to the suicide by hanging of one of her former escort service employees, by saying, "I guess I'm made of something that Brandy Britton wasn't made of."

[snip]

So ... it means that in early 2007 she considered herself too "strong" to take such a route ("I'm made of tougher stuff than my hookers") ... doesn't mean she couldn't have changed her mind as things got more desperate ... which it looks like she did.

QUOTE
Suddenly, Palfrey quotes don't matter. Her suicide notes don't matter.


Handwritten. Her mother insists that's her handwriting.

Again, the only explanation for this other than actual suicide is that she was forced to write them. I've already explained what I see as the paradox in that hypothesis.




Seeker1
QUOTE (Eyeswideopen @ Oct 7 2008, 03:22 PM) *
Within hours of the announcement that DC Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey had allegedly hanged herself at her mother's home in Florida, Time Magazine released an interview with her "friend," a professional conspiracy debunker and an individual who has fabricated quotes in the past, who claimed Palfrey had told him of her wish to end her life.


Hey Eyes - is this ... character assassination? (And from PrisonPlanet? Color me shocked.)

BTW, if you're going to defend Wayne Madsen, allow me to defend Dan Moldea, who actually is a REAL investigative journalist.

Dan Moldea's written a bunch of other books. Including one on what he believes was a conspiracy to murder Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and one on Ronald Reagan's ties to the Mob.

I guess that makes him another one of those left gatekeepers.

You know, Moldea has his own response to Alex Jones. And your smearing of this guy definitely deserves it.

http://www.moldea.com/JeaneSuicide.html

Other bogus charges leveled against Moldea by those who believe that Jeane was murdered

The "Jeane-was-murdered crowd,*" primarily led by radio talk-show host Alex Jones (who received some inexplicable support from Kimberly Guilfoyle and Geraldo Rivera of Fox News, as well as CNN's Nancy Grace), cynically tried to exploit Jeane's sad demise, placing her death at the center of a series of screwball conspiracy theories. In an effort to diminish my claim that Jeane intended to commit suicide in the wake of her conviction, Jones's reporters and supporters revived:

-- a widely-discredited 1998 article, "The Curious Case of Dan Moldea";
-- a long-settled dispute--revolving around a "fabricated quote," as falsely alleged by Sirhan Sirhan's principal stooge--that sprang up during my series of interviews with Sirhan in 1993-1994, which also includes a signed statement by the source who gave me the quote;
-- the right-wing attacks over the conclusion in my 1998 book that Vincent Foster had commited suicide; and
-- my controversial role during the Clinton-impeachment drama in 1998-1999.

At no time did Jones's stooges call and ask me for comment prior to the publication of what can only be described as a series of lies and fabrications. (*) Please click the above links for my fully-documented versions of these events.

Mercifully, the unfair attacks against me subsided considerably after the release of Jeane's suicide notes--even though many people still wrongly believe that Jeane was murdered, and their ridiculous charges against me still remain online.

[snip]

The shameless Alex Jones uses Jeane Palfrey's tragic death to promote yet another one of his moronic conspiracy theories, as well his money-making books, films, and "infogear":

(that bit definitely deserved 6 pt font)

[snip]

Dan Moldea has more credibility in his fingernail than Alex Jones and Paul Watson have in the nether regions they keep pulling stuff out of.




Seeker1
QUOTE (Eyeswideopen @ Oct 7 2008, 03:37 PM) *
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may20...m_predicted.htm

Go to the link above and click to hear the interview with the D.C. Madam, in which she said she would not commit suicide.


So no wonder I couldn't find her saying this in any credible source.

She only said it on Alex Jones' show.

Now I got it.

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Morgan
Well, no duh.
Seeker1
Dan Moldea ... long career of investigative reporting since the 70s where he's examined the Mafia's infiltration of professional sports and Hollywood. He even took on the New York Times in a libel case.

Alex Jones ... relatively short career of pulling shit out of his butt, since the late 90s.

I know who I trust.







Morgan
QUOTE (Seeker1 @ Oct 7 2008, 07:17 PM) *
Dan Moldea ... long career of investigative reporting since the 70s where he's examined the Mafia's infiltration of professional sports and Hollywood. He even took on the New York Times in a libel case.

Alex Jones ... relatively short career of pulling shit out of his butt, since the late 90s.

I know who I trust.


Seeker...Alex Jones doesn't pull it all out of his ass. I said "all". However, he does research his work and has done so for for 13 yrs. He doesn't expect you to believe him without doing your own research...and once you begin the uncomfortable journey down the rabbit hole...you'll find a good amount of his work actually is close to the truth.

Mainstream corporate media/newpapers is owned by the CIA and ultimately by the banks...that is far more shady business.
bushwa
QUOTE (Seeker1 @ Oct 7 2008, 03:52 PM) *
I think you may be talking about this quote in Wikipedia.


I saw it where it was initially published, but that's the one.

QUOTE (Seeker1 @ Oct 7 2008, 03:52 PM) *
... doesn't mean she couldn't have changed her mind as things got more desperate ... which it looks like she did.


Oh, exactly what I think. A year earlier she hoped the prosecutor would buckle to her blackmail threats, or that some client would have the juice to stop the rial.

There's both ample evidence she killed herself, and zero evidence she did not.
Eyeswideopen
Seeker, regardless of to whom she said it. she said it nevertheless. If you listened, you know she said it. Bushwa, with regard to there being no evidence she did not commit suicide......I do not claim to know what happened. I only am pointing out inconsistencies in the suicide story. No one here knows for sure what happened and it's absurd to claim we do.

But for open-minded individuals, there are a few things to consider. One is that Palfrey was discussing with her landlord how to pay her condo fees while in prison, immediately before she allegedly went to her mother's to commit suicide. The fact that she packed up her papers and took them with her also seems strange if she was about to commit suicide. Why even pack at all? For that matter, why not kill herself at the condo and spare her poor mother the trauma of discovering her body? She had been worried about her mother's health and how her problems could affect her mother's health. She had spoken about how she feared she herself would be harmed. She had vowed that she would NOT commit suicide. She had advised that, if anything happened to her, foul play should be considered. She had promised to name names and call important client witnesses to the stand to bolster her defense, but for some reason, she did not. Something happened which made her change her mind and keep her mouth shut at the final hour of the case. A reasonable person might surmise that she was promised some sort of deal of leniency if she kept mum about the powerful men on her client list. It seems strange that she left her Lexus in the condo garage. Many people gained from her death and her silence. Any connections between the Porter Goss CIA prostitution scheme and the D.C. Madam's service only enhances the possibilty of a CIA hit.

If you take all these factors together, and consider the powerful people who wished her silenced, it is altogether reasonable to question the government's story. That does not mean that she not commit suicide, only that the Bush crime family and the CIA have a history of "suiciding" those who might endanger their hold on power. Too many people with tales to tell about the cabal and its criminal conduct take their secrets to their graves. Admittedly, I don't know what happened, but it seems extremely naive to dismiss the possibility that the D. C. Madam was murdered.
Morgan
FASCISM MEANS THERE IS NO CREDIBLE MEDIA!!!

Be careful where you tread...when you bear the TRUTH. You're pushing up against too much denial. And it has nothing to do with being rational or logical.

When their denial relies on mainstream media to counter your message? The DENY'ers can pick and choose their comfort zone.
Eyeswideopen
Another government official with high security clearance and another death perhaps related to the D.C. Madam's case?

(This article comes from the Wayne Madsen Report, a pay site for members only. Do not click on the link, if you are not a member, because you will not gain access to the article. I post the link below for attribution purposes only.)

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com


December 8, 2008 -- CNO's yeoman murdered in Alexandria, Virginia home

In the early afternoon of December 2, Alexandria, Virginia were called to the the residence of Juantissa Hill, a Navy Yeoman Petty Officer in the Pentagon office of Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) Admiral Gary Roughead. Police found the 24-year old Hill dead in her apartment in the EOS 21 apartment complex located on the 300 block of S. Van Dorn Street in Alexandria . The police reported that Hill had been "violently killed" sometime during the previous night. Alexandria police did not reveal the exact cause of death to the few media outlets that made inquiries.

Hill was from Detroit and police said her 2006 Nissan Altima, Michigan plate BDE-4058, is missing. A resident of Hill's apartment complex told The Washington Examiner that the apartment building has strong security but another resident reported that the hinges to the front door of the apartment building had been removed and the magnetic locks were rendered useless.

The Navy said that Hill's job entailed preparing correspondence for the CNO. The Washington Post, in a short police blotter story so common with high-profile deaths reported by the former "newspaper-of-record" in Washington, referred to Hill as a "secretary" in the office of the CNO.

Hill had been in her job since transferring from the USS Theodore Rooseveltin Norfolk, Virginia in January of this year. In a statement, Roughead said Petty Office Hill was "a model sailor whose talent, professionalism and vibrant personality will be greatly missed by all who had the privilege to know and work with her." The Navy Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) is also involved in the case.

(snip)

Admiral Roughead's office may have dealt with correspondence of a politically-embarrassing nature dealing with the recent revelation that Lieutenant Commander Rebecca Dickinson, a former food services officer at the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis and an occasional ethics instructor at the school, had been permitted to retire at full rank on October 31 of this year.

Dickinson received an honorable discharge even though she was fired last April from her job at the Naval Supply Corps school in Athens, Georgia. Dickinson had testified for the prosecution in April in the trial of the late "Washington Madam" Deborah Jeane Palfrey. Dickinson had been an escort for Palfrey's Pamela Martin & Associates escort firm that catered to the sexual whims of some of Washington's most politically powerful people. Dickinson received an immunity deal from federal prosecutors in a deal that prevented the Navy from court-martialing her.

After her conviction, Palfrey was found hanging from the ceiling of a shed at her mother's Tarpon Springs, Florida home. Police ruled Palfrey's death a suicide.

With the identification of a naval officer with 19 years of naval service as an escort for Pamela Martin & Associates between October 2005 and April 2006 who used the cover name of "Renee" and earned $130 for a 90-minute session with a client, the CNO was sitting in a political mine field. On September 11, 2007, WMR reported: "Deborah Jeane Palfrey, the so-called "Washington Madam," yesterday filed pro se a 'pleading of note' before the US District Court for the District of Columbia. Palfrey has requested invocation of the "Classified Information Procedures Act," which governs the handling of classified information in federal trials. The pleading of note is titled 'Memorandum of Fact In Support of Motion for Pretrial Conference to Consider Matters Relating to Classified Information.' In the memo, an explanation is offered for the 'Honey Pot' defense in which Palfrey alleges that the U.S. government directly or indirectly benefitted from the operation of her Pamela Martin & Associates escort service by monitoring her customers. Therefore, the U.S. government is legally barred from prosecuting Palfrey.

In the memo filed before the court, Palfrey identifies not only already-reported customers of the escort service -- Republican Senator David Vitter of Louisiana, Randall Tobias, former administrator of the U.S. Agency for International Development, and defense consultant Harlan Ullman (who WMR was told by a knowledgeable source has been a top close adviser to and friend of Vice President Dick Cheney while he was Secretary of Defense and Vice President) -- but also confirms for the first time that another individual with very high government security clearance -- Ronald Roughead of Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) -- was also a customer. Roughead is the brother of Admiral Gary Roughead, recently nominated by George W. Bush to be the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO). Admiral Roughead has served as Commander of the U.S. Fleet Forces Command in Norfolk, Virginia."

Hill was serving in the CNO's office at the time Roughead's brother was named as a client of Pamela Martin & Associates. Whether Hill dealt with correspondence relating to Roughead's brother, Dickinson, or both is not known, however, given the nature of Hill's work in preparing correspondence, including sensitive correspondence, for the CNO, the possibility that she either wrote, saw, or heard about information dealing with the Pamela Martin/Ron Roughead/Rebecca Dickinson case cannot be ruled out.

In addition to Palfrey, one of her escorts, University of Maryland Baltimore associate professor Dr. Brandy Britton, who used the escort name "Alexis," was found hanging in her Ellicott City, Maryland home in January 2007. Suspiciously, Britton's identity as an escort for Palfrey was made known to Howard County, Maryland police after an 'anonymous' tip was received in a phone call to the department.

The political nature of the Pamela Martin case may have also led to the murder of the Assistant U.S. Attorney for Maryland, Jonathan Luna, who was found stabbed to death near his car off the Pennsylvania Turnpike in early December 2003. Luna's office in Baltimore was investigating the use of Pamela Martin escorts by top officials in the city of Baltimore and the office of then-Maryland GOP Governor Bob Ehrlich's office.

WMR previously reported that while the head of Halliburton, Dick Cheney was a client of the Pamela Martin agency's "services" for his firm and himself.

Meanwhile, the body count of those who "knew too much" or "might have known too much" continues to pile up.
bushwa
QUOTE (Eyeswideopen @ Dec 9 2008, 08:47 AM) *
...
Meanwhile, the body count of those who "knew too much" or "might have known too much" continues to pile up.



Pfffft.

who
QUOTE (bushwa @ Dec 9 2008, 11:54 AM) *
Pfffft.


Try this, Bushwa, and you won't suffer any more from those embarrassing eruptions of gas:

who
"apparent suicide", really ought to give one pause...


QUOTE
Attorney: 'DC Madam' left instructions if 'ever found dead of apparent suicide'

By Lori Price
http://www.legitgov.org/dc_madam_update_100808.html

Attorney: "Jeane was very clear with me that if she was ever found dead of an apparent suicide, I was to make sure that all the evidence was publicly disseminated so that it could be independently evaluated."

Exclusive: Citizens For Legitimate Government has learned that Deborah Jeane Palfrey's lawyer, Montgomery Blair Sibley, has intervened to stop a lawsuit seeking to prevent the Tarpon Springs, Florida, Police Department from releasing information requested by Sibley pertaining to the investigation of Jeane's death.

On July 22, 2008, Sibley requested under the Florida Public Records Act, "copies of any and all records, including without limitation police reports and photographs, related to the investigation of the death of Deborah Jeane Palfrey on May 1, 2008, at [redacted] Tarpon Springs, Florida. This request includes copies of every document related to the matter, regardless of the format in which the information is stored. I note that information stored on a computer is as much a public record as a written page in a book or stored in a filing cabinet."

Citing his obligation to discharge explicit instructions from his former client, Jeane Palfrey, the so-called DC Madam, to "fully investigate and reveal the circumstances of her death if deemed a suicide by authorities," her attorney, Montgomery Blair Sibley, has moved to intervene in a lawsuit filed by Jeane's mother, Blanche Palfrey. That lawsuit seeks to prevent the Tarpon Springs, Florida Police Department from releasing information requested by Sibley pertaining the investigation of Jeane's death on May 1 of this year.

Sibley said, "While I don't mean to cause Jeane's family additional grief, an attorney's first duty is to his client, and Jeane was very clear with me that if she was ever found dead of an apparent suicide, I was to make sure that all the evidence was publicly disseminated so that it could be independently evaluated."

A hearing has been set in that matter on August 15 before Florida Circuit Court Judge Linda Allan in Clearwater, Florida.

10 August 2008

bushwa
QUOTE (who @ Dec 9 2008, 09:00 AM) *
Try this, Bushwa, and you won't suffer any more from those embarrassing eruptions of gas:...



Oh, sure, you suck up Wayne's farts, and mine aren't good enough. Would it help if I claimed they're journalism, too?

bushwa
FROM WAYNE'S LATEST CARTOONSH EFFORT, IT BOILS DOWN TO

...The Navy said that Hill's job entailed preparing correspondence for the CNO. The Washington Post ...referred to Hill as a "secretary" in the office of the CNO.
...
Admiral Roughead's office may have dealt with correspondence of a politically-embarrassing nature ...

WHOA! Explosive, huh?! This time he doesn't even invent a tippy-top secret anonymous insider to tell him it's so. It's unvarnished bullshit and speculation.

...Whether Hill dealt with correspondence relating to Roughead's brother, Dickinson, or both is not known, however, ... the possibility ... cannot be ruled out.


And it cannot be ruled in, either, can it Wayne? Just as Hill MAY have dealt with "embarrassing" correspondence, she may NOT have, huh?

...The political nature of the Pamela Martin case may have also led to the murder of the Assistant U.S. Attorney for Maryland, Jonathan Luna...

And it may NOT have, again, huh? There is just as much evidence to demonstrate the two case are totally and completely unrelated, isn't there? But Wayne's suckers don't pay for stories like THAT, do they?

The only FACTS in this story are those culled from the newspaper articles cited. As usual, the entirity of Wayne's contribution is unfounded speculation that he cannot and does not support. Must have gotten attorney of late, though, because he's now using a lot more of those "may" and "possibly" qualifiers. So instead of being his own reporter, source and editor and legal counsel, now he's just his own reporter, source and editor.


Wayne Madsen is a fraud and a charlatan. Anyone who promotes his scribblings is either a dupe, someone who enjoys a tangible benefit for doing so, or someone whose agenda is so pathetic and fraught with holes that Wayne Madsen is the only resource they have to "support" their beliefs.

Hannibal
QUOTE (Eyeswideopen @ Dec 9 2008, 11:47 AM) *
Another government official with high security clearance and another death perhaps related to the D.C. Madam's case?

(This article comes from the Wayne Madsen Report, a pay site for members only. Do not click on the link, if you are not a member, because you will not gain access to the article. I post the link below for attribution purposes only.)

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com


Need I say it again?

Ka-Ching!

Pimp Madsen must being handing out the Xmas bonus this week.
who
QUOTE (bushwa @ Dec 9 2008, 01:29 PM) *
FROM WAYNE'S LATEST CARTOONSH EFFORT, IT BOILS DOWN TO


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It's the bushwa of old, what a relief, I was afraid you'd been lobotomized or something. bandevil.gif

I hope that you don't believe without reservation that Martin's death was absent of foul play, the cui bono seems painfully obvious.

I posted the Lori Price CLG story primarily for your benefit. I suppose you think that Lori is fraud as well. But then you have embraced the pernicious RW "conspiracy nuts" meme that the wingnuts employ to discredit dissent and investigative reporting so I suppose that you either think she is one of the "nuts" or must have been misled by some of the other "nuts".

Perhap you should read this WMR story from three months ago that just broke for you MSM junkies today, do you think this is charlantry too?
QUOTE
September 23, 2008 -- Blagojevich indictment imminent

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20080923_1

WMR has learned from Justice Department sources that the US Attorney for Northern Illinois Patrick Fitzgerald is prepared to drop a "mini-October Surprise" and indict Democratic Governor of Illinois Rod Blagojevich and/or his wife, Patricia Blagojevich, in the federal investigation of public corruption stemming from the investigation of Antonin "Tony" Rezko, a Chicago businessman convicted on June 4 on 16 of 24 federal counts. Rezko has been offered a reduced prison sentence by Fitzgerald if he agrees to cooperate in the investigation of "Public Official A" in the indictment of Rezko. Public Official A is Blagojevich.

Rezko was a fundraiser for both Blagojevich's gubernatorial campaign and the political campaigns of Senator Barack Obama.

The indictment of Blagojevich and/or his wife, who received lucrative real estate commissions from Rezko, are expected within the next few weeks, according to our sources. However, that would place to indictments in the midst of the presidential campaign and would appear to be timed to hurt Obama and the Democrats. Fitzgerald is reportedly undecided about when to drop the indictments to avoid the appearance of politicization of the criminal process in Illinois, a charge already leveled against Fitzgerald for his failure to indict Karl Rove in the leak of CIA agent's Valerie Plame Wilson's identity to the media and the indictment of Illinois Republican Governor George Ryan after the governor commuted the death sentences of Illinois' death row inmates, a decision also supported by Blagojevich. Ryan cited misconduct by Illinois and Chicago prosecutors and police in making his decision, something that did not sit well with Fitzgerald, a career federal prosecutor.

The indictment or indictments are reportedly already prepared and are awaiting a final okay from the Justice Department.


Merry Fitzmas indeed.
blueinmo

QUOTE (airbor504 @ May 22 2008, 03:34 PM) *
On its face it looks very suspicious. Whatever happened to the list of phone numbers?


Larry Flint at one time had the phone list. It was posted on the internet and I think he was asking people to help identify the owners of the phone numbers. But I can't find the link maybe Flynt pulled it of the internet because a bunch of GOPers decided not to keep their seats.




Here's a couple of links:

This is the story I think had many Republican Sentators and House Reps NOT running to keep their seat this year. Think about it wasn't it like 6 or 8 Senators who decided suddenly not to run? And a bunch of GOP House guys.

Flynt is tracking 20 congressional sex scandal leads


The 20-plus new leads, Flynt said, come from the newspaper ad and not Palfrey. The Hustler publisher, arrested and jailed multiple times during his decades-long career, vowed to provide clear proof and only out lawmakers whom he perceives to be hypocrites.

Flynt released the particular wireless phone bill containing Vitter’s phone number on Palfrey’s calling list, confirming that the Louisianan contacted the escort service while serving in the House. Flynt also claimed to have testimony from five New Orleans prostitutes about their sexual encounters with Vitter, adding that that quintet would likely share the $1 million bounty with Palfrey.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/flynt-...2007-07-11.html



Larry Flynt: D.C. Madam Was Murdered

Published May 2, 2008

Although police in Tarpon Springs, Fla., said there was "no question" that Deborah Jeane Palfrey committed suicide by hanging others are now saying that she was murdered to stop her from naming high-ranking political names.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/254150


‘More Names Will Come Out,’ Lawyer in D.C. Escort Case Vows

By Sue Anne Pressley Montes

Wednesday, July 11, 2007; A02

For months, alleged D.C. madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey has promised that her voluminous phone records — all 46 pounds of them — contained some powerful secrets. Within hours of their public release, a senator acknowledged Monday night that his telephone number was on the list.

Now, groups such as one calling itself Citizens for Legitimate Government, which runs a liberal Web site, are poring over the records, hoping to translate the raw numbers into more names and revelations. Montgomery Blair Sibley, Palfrey’s civil attorney, said the records were given to 50 interested individuals or groups who “wanted to remain anonymous,” after a federal judge’s release of the records last week…

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/look-at...adam-phone-list


“Once more analysis is done, more names will come out,” Sibley said in an interview yesterday.

Vitter Can't Use Campaign Funds to Pay for Madam-Related Legal Fees

AND

Senate Ethics Committee Clears David Vitter

both articles here: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/david_vitter/



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