Yea 205

Nays 228


I think that's what happened.

Dow industrials fall more than 600 on fears bailout package vote will fail. CNN headlines now

you could be right...

This vote is about an amendment. I believe final vote is next.

Yep, the bushco albatross

Capital idea.

141 Yes votes by Democrats.

This was the final passage vote that started at 1:30 eastern time.

Yea 207

Nay 226

2 NV.

66 yes votes from repubs. You know, the ones that caused this mess
in the first place.

I guess Fraud Street is gathering up its pettycoats and making like hell towards the sunset...

Democratic
141- Yea
94-Nay
Republican
65-Yea
133- Nay

205 yea...228 nay

motion to delay tally?

Without our money though, thank gawd.

Why are so many Dems voting FOR it?

BLUE DOGS....and those Dems who live off the fat of BANKSTERS

Gavel down (MSNBC guy said Dems swore they would never hold voting open like repubs.). The people won.

Motion to reconsider? Not yet. Moving on to other business for now.

206-227

I would say Nancy and Steny need more time.

Re-negotiation time?

Exactly! WTF is going on??

205 - 228 on the final vote. It wasn't even close. The dems passed it 2-1, it was the republicans who dumped this bill. There's irony for you.

Guy.

Probably political cover. The Dems tried to help, now the economy is in the shitter
because of repubs.

It is done!

ABC News has a special report, where 'Sorry, Charlie" is reporting it. They have so far layed the blame in the laps of the Republicans, with both Charlie and the first analyst (Jake Tapper) have made the point that the large number of Republicans who refused to vote for it were the problem. Some mention that Pelosi's speech may have been too partisan and put off members from supporting it. Also, many Republicans stood on principle (theirs, anyway) and refused to support a government bailout.

I suppose if it had passed, that would have been Republicans fault as well?

Yes, of course.

btw.....there goes my 401K. Thanks for that pukes.

Truth hurts, dun't it? Need some tissue?

My bad.

I still can't figure out why this can't wait until January...can someone explain?

Why would I?

Also reported on ABC was that the vote was held open an additional 25 minutes to try and twist arms, but it didn't work out.

If it were up to you, what would your solution be?

That's right, cuz' you're a strong little man, yes you are!

Those who changed their vote...watch what deals they get

But, but, but according to Faux News and the other Repuke talking heads, McCain had sealed the deal by getting the Republican House members to sign on to this bill. In fact he's already running an advertisement that HE personally solved the economic crisis while Obama did nothing.

Have we been mislead?

a.
To stay on topic, GREAT, it needed to go to the trash, because it still doesn't have the following dialog.

1. Force all off-balance sheet "assets" back onto the balance sheet, and force the valuation models and identification of individual assets out of Level 3 and into 10Qs and 10Ks. Do it now.
2. Force all OTC derivatives onto a regulated exchange similar to that used by listed options in the equity markets. This permanently defuses the derivatives time bomb. Give market participants 90 days; any that are not listed in 90 days are declared void; let the participants sue each other if they can't prove capital adequacy.
3. Force leverage by all institutions to no more than 12:1. The SEC intentionally dropped broker/dealer leverage limits in 2004; prior to that date 12:1 was the limit. Every firm that has failed had double or more the leverage of that former 12:1 limit. Enact this with a six month time limit and require 1/6th of the excess taken down monthly.


b.)
Just caught your tagline

"We need Randi on TV! I suggest we start letting the media know by email!"

Absolutely, I been saying we need a progressive over the air broadcast stations / network for awhile now.

Question is, where to get the money?

of all the words you could use to describe me, 'little' wouldn't be one of them.

Because the bankers wanted a martial law option?

I thought they were supposed to close the stock exchange if the market falls more than a certain percentage? Does anyone know that percentage?

There you go. A-a-a-accentuate the positive and e-e-e-e-eliminate the negative and you'll get through this just fine.

I don't think the left-right paradigm is going to work. This is collapse by Bankers. It's been in the design for quite some time.

McCain couldn't fight his way out of a brown paper bag...he would fall on his face if he tried to lie, too. Too mnay are watching very closely.

IT IS ACCOMPLISHED.

The right result, for now, that is. More time, more deliberation, more consideration of alternatives is required. Indeed, the whole thing should probably await the next administration (hopefully an Obama one).

Vote out every repub, then regulate the hell out of wall st.

Simple really.

I now have my list of people to vote against.

Anyone that voted FOR THIS BAILOUT. AND anyone that abstained.

Is this info available now?

....mainstreet won the battle, i hope! I mean we really dont know if the implications will happen as Bush TOLD us but we will see and we have to take the hit if it does.

and what is your opinion on checks and balances?

yes they did and we should NOT bail them out..lets play politics with this...they would do it and they are doing it

I applaud the House for voting this down. I appreciate that the Democrats put in some safeguards for those of us they expect to pay for the bailout, but I'm still against the bailout. I don't like the idea of even fewer people owning even more of our economy, but JP Morgan and other companies taking over the businesses that are failing, is better than We The People having to pay for this.

This was a house vote right?

So it's a partial list. I stand corrected. Thanks.

I think they have to stop trading for an hour if the market loses 20% of its value.

Sadly I can't find the exact bill yet. Google shoving a bunch of non government links up and I don't know the BILL NAME.