Here's the Pelosi floor speech that Republicans claim so enraged them that they decided to change their votes on the bailout:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/220712.php

And just below the Pelosi speech is the Republican House leadership laying all the blame at Pelosi's feet.

Republicans are counting on the notion that the public doesn't have access to YouTube or that they wont bother to watch Pelosi's speech. You tell me, what does Pelosi say in her speech that would make republcians so angry that they would decide to punish the country?

She's Nancy Pelosi.
All of the activities for the last two weeks were nothing more than a ploy to attempt to discredit the Democrats, put fear in the hearts of the voting public, and get McCain elected pResident.

I think I found it...



http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/09/..._on_floor_a.php

Hmmmm.... only one occurrence of "Republican":


The question is: Can anyone put their finger on exactly when the repugs became such a bunch of whiny candy-ass pussies?

(Please note that I'm talking about their pitiful attempt to blame this on Pelosi and -- big surprise -- Obama. I agree with RR that this shock & awe legislation (pushed under duress) SUCKED and I'm glad it was defeated. Now it is time to craft some real Progressive Legislation that actually puts Main Street first and makes the Greed-is-Good Wall St Repugs PAY for their own excesses (for a change).

Haven't they always been that way?

I think they're mad cause she said "The Party's over." And she's right.

That would do it.

I'm trying to think of another instance where someone is both asking for support on a vote and simultainiously chastising the self same members whose support that they need.

Can you think of an instance? I'm drawing a blank. But then again, I'm just a dumb Republican.

No, you're right. That was a bad time to tell the truth. But it was the truth.

But Pelosi is asking the American people to pay for the bailout, the lying witch. The repigs voted "no" because they know there is no crisis, and they want to be re elected. Screw McSame, it's every pig for him/her self!



Sky is falling!

And in that wise, rather refreshing.

It appears to me that the Republican strategy since the 2006 election has been to lower the public opinion of congress. Through the path of obstructionism, Republicans aim to make the Nancy Pelosi Democratic congress look ineffectual. Their goal is to prove in the public eye that the Democratic congress can be as much of a do nothing congress as a Republican congress. Today's vote in congress was a double-down on that strategy.

Yeah, it is all BS. Plan of action:
1. Elect Obama
2. Repeal tax cuts for the rich
3. Get out of Iraq (10 bill a month!)
4. Re regulate Wall Street!

I'm trying to think of another instance where a political party voted against a bill because their feelings were hurt by something that was said on the floor of congress.

Can you think of an instance?

Since Barney Frank told them, "sorry if we hurt your little feelings with a speech." They're just using Pelosi for cover, so they don't have to answer to the lame daffy duck, W.

We've all heard the question asked at many a wedding, "if anyone knows of any reason, that these two people should not to take the sacraments of holy matrimony, let them speak now or forever hold their piece".

In my life experience thus far, everyone has kept their mouths shut. The objection during a marriage ceremony seems to exist and happen only on Hollywood movie sets or the stage.

Truth? Okay. But was it prudent? Was it wise? Was it an example of an action that resembled an expertly played hand of poker? Was it good timing?

BUT pelosi is letting the rethugs blame her..she needs to keep going with it...IT IS THEIR FAULT! F her speech she needs to defend her self and set herself up to be the offensive player! She did not do that in her speech earlier...barney frank did it for her!

LOL the Repubs didn't like being told they were responsible. They just couldn't handle the truth. to quote a friend F'em

Didn't just vote against a bill but voted against their president and their country. Guess they just called their prez a liar or disowned him after 8 yrs of kissing his ass!

To hell with the country! To hell with the world economy! My feelings are hurt and I'm going home!

(Besides the bill is 110 pages long and I didn't feel like reading it.)

No, that's what I said. It was a bad time to tell the truth.

But, IMO, it was provident. I think that Main Street will be better off if this bailout is NOT passed.

I actually think that the assets of those in financial services industry who defrauded investors should be seized, first to pay off the resulting debts, but that's another discussion.

It is important that this EVENT be characterized as the INFLECTION POINT where the focus of government shifts from Wall Street to Main Street. But it should be for Obama to do.

Naw, no downside for diss'ing Bush at this point. Most Republicans are running from him so fast, you can hear the Doppler effect.

On Race for the White House:

Harold Ford Jr: I'm trying to remember in all my years in congress when a speech on the floor wasn't partisan.

Yes! Since McCain and the conservative Repugs tried to politicize and sabotage the deal and watered it down. You would rather the Dems and Obama keep their mouth shut like Kerry, Gore. Not this year! No how! No way!

Ahhhhhh, did Nancy hurt your little feelings? Are you and your Republican leaders going to hold your breath now until she apologizes?

Try being told that your "traitor" unless you support George Bush's war. Try being mocked and completely cut out of the process for 7 of the last 8 years. Really, it's been 19 of the last 28 years. If you want an apology, you'll get none from me. I doubt you'll get any apology from Nancy or anyone in the Democratic leadership.

You've had your fun. Now the party is over.

That being said, Nancy probably should have toned it down a bit. She was absolutely right in every thing she said, but sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. It's hard to always have to be the "adult" and suppress your righteous anger, but sometimes that's just what you have to do, especially when you are the Speaker of the House or President.

But if she had, you just would have thought her weak...

It may be too late anyway and none of this is going to matter. The damage has been done and the consequences may be unavoidable.

These minority party "conservatives" are now claiming their ideology after being hypocrites for 7 yrs.

Surprised he didn't throw Pelosi under the bus...what a tool!

Yeah. The Repigs were thinking "Hey, I resemble that remark!"

But RR thinks it's all BS, and so do I!

It's been a long time between scoring points for Harold. It kind of surprised me when he said what he did.

The Goddess is always right

Excellent question. I don't know if this instance qualifies. I think that the Republicans who voted for the 2003 Pension measure would have probably done so back in July of 2003 in any event. But Congressman Pete Stark of California won no converts to his cause from across the aisle that day with comments like these.

From the New York Times website: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...mp;pagewanted=1

Mr. Thomas let the reading go forward, then tried to gavel it to a close. Mr. Stark, who Republicans say has irritated them with a history of off-color remarks, grew agitated, prompting Representative McInnis to mutter, ''Shut up.'' A transcript reveals the exchanges that followed:

Mr. Stark: ''Oh you think you are big enough to make me, you little wimp? Come on. Come over here and make me. I dare you. You little fruitcake. You little fruitcake. I said you are a fruitcake.''

Mr. Thomas: ''Recess is over. The classroom has been resumed.''

Tactful? Taken from the pages of How to Win Friends and Influence People?

While it may not have been the deciding factor in this vote (passed 170 to 143 back in 2003), Representative Stark's actions surely didn't gain any votes from across the aisle.

Go ahead and rail about the "hurt feelings" of Republicans. I can think of more constructive things to do with the time between now and Thursday when another Vote will come up.

Watch: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/29/b...e_n_130341.html

exactly THEY CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!

For the longest time I was wondering "where's Pelosi?"

I think we found her.

That speech is the Democratic version of a signing statement.

Would hate her job. My eyes kept glazing over. But every word out of her mouth was the truth.

To Republicans its like spraying them with Holy Water. "It burns! It burns!"

If you want the check you have to do so with the Pelosi lecture. There's no such thing as a free lunch. You have to listen to the lady talk.

The thing that struck me was the contrast with Palin.

How many days you think the Republicans will let the world economy slide?