What Randi was talking about the McCain campaign saying something about fireworks 72 hours or so before election day; makes me wonder would that be considered as a threat against a Presidential candidate.
I mean, would the Secret Service go as far as to arrest anyone including McNutso himself if they had evidence a threat was created on the life of the Democratic candidate?
McNutso and Mooselini seem to be happy to throw gasoline on the fire of hatred.
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That is because hatred is all they have left they have no answers or any kind of plans. Just feeding the hatred of backward-thinkers, and hope it gains enough traction to spin them out of the snowbank they are in.
It is a good sign, the polls showing that Americans are finally waking up to the fact that all there is in that kind of campaigning is emptiness. The fearmongering had to wear off after time, and to quote a great American, "AMERICA, THIS IS OUR TIME!"
The SS probably would have a real tough time making a case against any of the front-runners, knowing how multi-layered the campaigns are, and how well the Repigs have trained in covering their own asses!
It is a good sign, the polls showing that Americans are finally waking up to the fact that all there is in that kind of campaigning is emptiness. The fearmongering had to wear off after time, and to quote a great American, "AMERICA, THIS IS OUR TIME!"
The SS probably would have a real tough time making a case against any of the front-runners, knowing how multi-layered the campaigns are, and how well the Repigs have trained in covering their own asses!
Did anyone else see KO tonight reading the National Review blogs.
They said all they really got left is the 527s.
This campaign will still get farther dirty.
They said all they really got left is the 527s.
This campaign will still get farther dirty.
QUOTE (zemo)
I mean, would the Secret Service go as far as to arrest anyone including McNutso himself if they had evidence a threat was created on the life of the Democratic candidate?
Just as they had "no idea" the levees would fail, they would have "no idea" that there was a plot against the Democratic candidate. I can just hear Chertoff now: "I read in the newspaper that Obama had dodged the bullet."
This is just my smart-ass glibness talking. I have to believe there are still people in this rotten administration that are concerned with doing their appointed jobs, and not "serving at the pleasure of the president."
QUOTE (pestone @ Oct 8 2008, 09:13 PM) 
Just as they had "no idea" the levees would fail, they would have "no idea" that there was a plot against the Democratic candidate. I can just hear Chertoff now: "I read in the newspaper that Obama had dodged the bullet."
This is just my smart-ass glibness talking. I have to believe there are still people in this rotten administration that are concerned with doing their appointed jobs, and not "serving at the pleasure of the president."
This is just my smart-ass glibness talking. I have to believe there are still people in this rotten administration that are concerned with doing their appointed jobs, and not "serving at the pleasure of the president."
Don't forget that J. Edgar Hoover was no friend of the Kennedys and took over the investigation of the assassination in Dallas in 1963.
And as I remember the recent news there are certain subpoenas out there for Bush Admin. people that don't bother to appear before Congress.
Corporatists don't want to see an Obama administration and we will see how far they go.
Obama knows all about what Sean Connery said in "The Untouchables", about "the Chicago way".
Here's hoping Obama doesn't "bring a knife to a gun fight".
Even further hoping that for the whole country's good Obama retires gracefully from the White House in 2017.
Not to go too far into "conspiracy theory", still, people really should see, "RFK Must Die"...
I met Bobby days before he was assassinated...realize, noone cared after he was gone, WHO was going to win the election in 68..the country was simply assassinated to death. People gathered spontaneously, all along train lines-stations to quietly watch the train carrying his body pass..
in all these years I have only seen one plausible reason behind his assassinatiion, and virtually noone
knows that; he was certain to have re-opened the investigation into his brother's assassination..and he could have been politically powerful enough to do so...
and speaking of JFK assassination, while living in Germany, I saw video of the McGruder tapes, and technology is now such that this video can be-has been totally cleaned up..you see JFK hit from three
directions, just as the JFK movie depicts-postulates. It is more than interesting that this video has not
been cleaned up and released here. Recently, some months ago now, a full page ad-article in NY TIMES did "discovery", telling the world where our society was headed..economic meltdown..AND exposing the JFK assassination as conspiracy, the movie having been 90% accurate..
as I always note, don't take my word for it..do the discovery.
I met Bobby days before he was assassinated...realize, noone cared after he was gone, WHO was going to win the election in 68..the country was simply assassinated to death. People gathered spontaneously, all along train lines-stations to quietly watch the train carrying his body pass..
in all these years I have only seen one plausible reason behind his assassinatiion, and virtually noone
knows that; he was certain to have re-opened the investigation into his brother's assassination..and he could have been politically powerful enough to do so...
and speaking of JFK assassination, while living in Germany, I saw video of the McGruder tapes, and technology is now such that this video can be-has been totally cleaned up..you see JFK hit from three
directions, just as the JFK movie depicts-postulates. It is more than interesting that this video has not
been cleaned up and released here. Recently, some months ago now, a full page ad-article in NY TIMES did "discovery", telling the world where our society was headed..economic meltdown..AND exposing the JFK assassination as conspiracy, the movie having been 90% accurate..
as I always note, don't take my word for it..do the discovery.
QUOTE (nonclassical @ Oct 9 2008, 05:24 AM)
Not to go too far into "conspiracy theory", still, people really should see, "RFK Must Die"...
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as I always note, don't take my word for it..do the discovery.
[...]
as I always note, don't take my word for it..do the discovery.
This article sounds reasonable to me:
http://crimemagazine.com/05/sirhansirhan,0906-5.htm
Lest we forget this story:
Racist Secret Service E-Mails
http://www.slate.com/id/2191202/
from: Bonnie Goldstein
Posted Monday, May 12, 2008, at 3:29 PM ET
excerpt:
A discrimination lawsuit filed by African-American employees against the Secret Service has dragged on for more than eight years, prompting the plaintiffs to accuse the government's lawyers of dragging their feet. Last week, a batch of racist internal e-mails written to or by "at least 20" high-ranking agency supervisors was released by the government weeks after a court-imposed deadline. Samples of the e-mails (see below and the following four pages) demonstrate why the agency might have been reluctant to turn them over.
In 2003, Daniel Paulson, a Secret Service assistant director in the Office of Government Liaison and Public Affairs, sent a "Harlem Spelling Bee" (see below) to several recipients, including a deputy assistant director who has since retired. The e-mail contained mock "vocabulary words" from an imaginary fifth-grade "Ebonics homework assignment." Example: "Hotel—I gave my girlfriend crabs, and the hotel everybody." Another 2003 e-mail joked about killing the Rev. Jesse Jackson (Page 2); a third made joking reference to lynchings and large male genitalia (Page 3); and a fourth, this one from 2005, related a joke about robot golf caddies that, when painted black, "didn't show up for work … filed for welfare, and … robbed the pro shop" (Page 4). This last was sent to the head of the Cleveland field office.
Meanwhile, in an exchange between the "Special Agent in Charge of the Dignitary Protective Division and a former GS-14 Special Agent," the two Secret Servicemen complained that "reverse racism and political correctness are destroying every aspect of American life" (Page 5).
I hope that Obama has some choice in determining specifically who is protectors will be.
QUOTE
Racist Secret Service E-Mails
http://www.slate.com/id/2191202/
from: Bonnie Goldstein
Posted Monday, May 12, 2008, at 3:29 PM ET
excerpt:
A discrimination lawsuit filed by African-American employees against the Secret Service has dragged on for more than eight years, prompting the plaintiffs to accuse the government's lawyers of dragging their feet. Last week, a batch of racist internal e-mails written to or by "at least 20" high-ranking agency supervisors was released by the government weeks after a court-imposed deadline. Samples of the e-mails (see below and the following four pages) demonstrate why the agency might have been reluctant to turn them over.
In 2003, Daniel Paulson, a Secret Service assistant director in the Office of Government Liaison and Public Affairs, sent a "Harlem Spelling Bee" (see below) to several recipients, including a deputy assistant director who has since retired. The e-mail contained mock "vocabulary words" from an imaginary fifth-grade "Ebonics homework assignment." Example: "Hotel—I gave my girlfriend crabs, and the hotel everybody." Another 2003 e-mail joked about killing the Rev. Jesse Jackson (Page 2); a third made joking reference to lynchings and large male genitalia (Page 3); and a fourth, this one from 2005, related a joke about robot golf caddies that, when painted black, "didn't show up for work … filed for welfare, and … robbed the pro shop" (Page 4). This last was sent to the head of the Cleveland field office.
Meanwhile, in an exchange between the "Special Agent in Charge of the Dignitary Protective Division and a former GS-14 Special Agent," the two Secret Servicemen complained that "reverse racism and political correctness are destroying every aspect of American life" (Page 5).
I hope that Obama has some choice in determining specifically who is protectors will be.
Everybody knows they've been wanting a race war..or whateva...for quite some time.
Hang in there, folks. Choose your battles wisely. We're headed for a severe media overload, convincing everyone to polarize.
Don't do it. Just stick with the Constitution ALL THE WAY. AND BE FIRM. The election is a distraction, at the moment.
God I wish the 'centrists' had a higher IQ.
Hang in there, folks. Choose your battles wisely. We're headed for a severe media overload, convincing everyone to polarize.
Don't do it. Just stick with the Constitution ALL THE WAY. AND BE FIRM. The election is a distraction, at the moment.
God I wish the 'centrists' had a higher IQ.
You would expect some pointing to voting records, contributors and supporters. One politician might slightly distort a persons voting record to make a point, while the other slightly distorts a list of contributors for the first. It’s all about gamesmanship and distraction.
But there’s a line that should never be crossed. Each candidate should show the other candidate respect. Each candidate should show the other candidate courtesy. This is a line that is being severely crossed in this election.
The other day at a McCain rally the focus was on Sarah Palin. Instead of talking about the policies of John McCain, she chose to fire up the crowd with rhetoric that labeled Senator Obama a “domestic terrorist”. One person in the crowd even yelled out “KILL HIM!”. Sarah Palin’s response was to stand there and smile. There wasn’t even a patronizing attempt to calm the crowd. Instead, she seemed to feed on this high level of rage the crowd was projecting.
Similarly, McCain sat idly by while a person at one of his rallies yelled “TERRORIST”.
These comments are unacceptable. They are, at the least, hate crimes, and are akin to inciting a riot. This is a sitting United States Senator that these people are talking about! The fact that neither McCain nor Palin did anything to calm the situation tells us a lot about their character. They are letting a deep division rise in this country that will be almost impossible to heal once the election is over regardless of who wins.
C’mon McCain, show some class and silence your dogs. Let’s return this campaign to respectability and show people how a man with honor conducts himself. It’s not too late, but it will be very soon at the current rate of decent.
But there’s a line that should never be crossed. Each candidate should show the other candidate respect. Each candidate should show the other candidate courtesy. This is a line that is being severely crossed in this election.
The other day at a McCain rally the focus was on Sarah Palin. Instead of talking about the policies of John McCain, she chose to fire up the crowd with rhetoric that labeled Senator Obama a “domestic terrorist”. One person in the crowd even yelled out “KILL HIM!”. Sarah Palin’s response was to stand there and smile. There wasn’t even a patronizing attempt to calm the crowd. Instead, she seemed to feed on this high level of rage the crowd was projecting.
Similarly, McCain sat idly by while a person at one of his rallies yelled “TERRORIST”.
These comments are unacceptable. They are, at the least, hate crimes, and are akin to inciting a riot. This is a sitting United States Senator that these people are talking about! The fact that neither McCain nor Palin did anything to calm the situation tells us a lot about their character. They are letting a deep division rise in this country that will be almost impossible to heal once the election is over regardless of who wins.
C’mon McCain, show some class and silence your dogs. Let’s return this campaign to respectability and show people how a man with honor conducts himself. It’s not too late, but it will be very soon at the current rate of decent.
QUOTE (who @ Oct 10 2008, 09:52 AM)
Lest we forget this story:
I hope that Obama has some choice in determining specifically who is protectors will be.
I hope that Obama has some choice in determining specifically who is protectors will be.
As a native-born Hawaiian and Kam'a'ai'na, He should have an all-Kanaka Secret Service detail. I'm sure there are plenty of Kanaka boys on the Honolulu Police Dept. that wouldn't mind serving on his detail. Most people won't fuck with ONE Kanaka, much less 8 or 10.
Ish---That is a great idea, I knew one in the Corps. he was huge!!! 6'6 300 lbs, no fat on him. Let some redneck call one of them a slur.
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