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Morgan
Thursday, Friday and Saturday, June 5 -7.

Alex Jones, We Are Change and seasoned investigative journalists who have been following these criminals for decades.

You know why they chose a US site for their meeting again? BECAUSE, our Patriot Act have given them 'shielding' or 'secrecy' they require to carry on in unobstructed privacy. AND our beloved corporate media will suppress it's existence, AGAIN.

Isn't it lovely, America, 'The Safe Haven' for Globalists.
claypigeonb
Was Barack Obama invited this year?

How about McCain?

Hillary?

I have been watching this thing out of the corner of my eye. If it is involving our candidates, we should be asking our candidates about it.
Morgan
QUOTE (claypigeonb @ Jun 5 2008, 03:06 PM) *
Was Barack Obama invited this year?

How about McCain?

Hillary?

I have been watching this thing out of the corner of my eye. If it is involving our candidates, we should be asking our candidates about it.


Nahhh...Hillary was there in 2006. In Ottowa, Canada.

Alex Jones says he isn't really sure where Obama fits in. He's hoping The People got beyond the powers that be...but no one is certain of his indirect relationship with the Bankers.

He's clean, so far.
MoralMinority
QUOTE (Morgan @ Jun 5 2008, 03:41 PM) *
Nahhh...Hillary was there in 2006. In Ottowa, Canada.

Alex Jones says he isn't really sure where Obama fits in. He's hoping The People got beyond the powers that be...but no one is certain of his indirect relationship with the Bankers.

He's clean, so far.

AJ has a new story on his website saying the Obama and Hillary met last night near where the Bilderberg group will be meeting this year:
link

Just a little creepy huh?
georgene
QUOTE (Morgan @ Jun 5 2008, 02:41 PM) *
Nahhh...Hillary was there in 2006. In Ottowa, Canada.

Alex Jones says he isn't really sure where Obama fits in. He's hoping The People got beyond the powers that be...but no one is certain of his indirect relationship with the Bankers.

He's clean, so far.


Exelon execs love him and Chicago bankers love him (but the bankers are local).
2zz
The Bildeberg meeting in Chantilly, VA (which is a proven fact) from June 5 '08 through June 8 '08 is way too coincidental for me.
Once I heard the announcement early this week that they were meeting so close to Washington D.C. (less than 30 miles away) I was very anxious to see where our candidates would be this weekend. Both were in Washington Thursday night, and Hillary on Saturday - where she was probably given the nod to give her "Suspension" speech.
I am a registered independent, but clearly a Democrat. I was happy to rally around Obama because I thought/hoped that perhaps he is "clean", i.e. untainted by the one world globalist agenda. Right now, although I have no proof that he attended the Bildeberg conference, I have deep suspicion that they have been in touch with both of them. And with that... I am afraid our fate is sealed, no matter what. What we are really chosing is not a candidate who is committed to restoring hope, honesty, our Constitution and the American Dream, but rather the flavor of our predetermined medicine.
What troubles me just as much, is that the CEO of the company I work for was there as well. If I didn't need this job as much as I do, I would ask him. This is the shape of our economy, our country and perhaps our future. Fragile at best. ohmy.gif
2zz
QUOTE (2zz @ Jun 8 2008, 10:19 AM) *

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Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Friday, June 6, 2008

Senator Barack Obama’s office has refused to deny that the Democratic nominee attended Bilderberg last night following reports that he and Hillary Clinton were present at "an event in Northern Virginia."
As we reported earlier today, Obama’s press entourage were not informed of his secret meeting with Hillary Clinton in Northern Virginia until they were literally locked inside a plane that was taxiing down the runway on its way to Chicago.
Reporters were duped into believing that they were getting on a plane back to the campaign headquarters in Chicago with the presumptive nominee, while in reality Obama’s motorcade instead sped off in secrecy to Northern Virginia, which is also the scene of this week’s Bilderberg conference. The plane was stationed at Dulles International, which is less than a 20 minute drive from Chantilly Virginia as is shown below.


I forgot to include this quote in my original post.
Christine
QUOTE (2zz @ Jun 8 2008, 08:28 AM) *
I forgot to include this quote in my original post.



They were at Diane Feinsteins home for a private meeting so I think that rules out being at the Bilderberg meeting.
MoralMinority
QUOTE (Christine @ Jun 8 2008, 10:46 AM) *
They were at Diane Feinsteins home for a private meeting so I think that rules out being at the Bilderberg meeting.

They just stopped off at Diane's house to pick up thier tickets! wink.gif Just kidding. It's just one of those odd little coinkydinks...as if this election isn't strange enough.
RitaAnn
Didn't hear anything about the meeting on the msm. Did anyone else? I ask, why the secrecy? Why not at least give the public a tape recording of the meeting, or better yet, a video. Hm? Why not? Maybe they don't want the commoners involved in their plans. Which are....?
Hannibal
All of this concern over the 'secret society' meeting to decide the fate of the world.

How many of you attended your last city council meeting? Know the names of your children's teachers? Know how your neighbors are?
RitaAnn
QUOTE (Hannibal @ Jun 9 2008, 08:19 PM) *
All of this concern over the 'secret society' meeting to decide the fate of the world.

How many of you attended your last city council meeting? Know the names of your children's teachers? Know how your neighbors are?


Do You? If so, congratulations. But cut the sanctimonious crap. What decisions are made at these so-called secret society meetings can and does effect us and the whole planet. Look at history.
Morgan
Photo of Federal Reserve Board Chairman Ben Bernanke leaving the Westfields Marriott Conference Center in Chantilly, Virginia, site of the 2008 Bilderberg conference.



Hillary and Obama were there...probably finding out who will be VP. And since Hillary was 'tapped' 2 yrs ago for Prez, during the Ottawa Bilderberg, they probably will assure her of great things to come.
LilaTheGreat
Bilderberg Meeting hap'nin right now in Chantilly, VA, (word is...Iran is to be decided)
I wonder did they talk about impeachment? ohmy.gif
5by5
Just as with the Bohemian Grove, Jones managed to get a man inside, and report back. They apparently just got back and are organizing pictures/video of the event.

Per Prison Planet:

http://www.infowars.com/?p=2615

In Jones's words (which echo Naomi Klein), "They've created the banking crisis, and now they're gonna use it for their own ends."

Apparently the Globalists want to move all the nations of the world to a, "cashless society grid agenda with the use of implantable microchips. The implantable microchips would be sold as a way for people to easily move through the militarized control grid that they’ve setup via the bogus terror war."

As an intermediary step, the also seek to, "a global regulatory framework for the banking system so they can move closer to a global currency operating in a cashless society," essentially expanding the illegal Federal Reserve System without the consent of the people to a worldwide structure of financial control.

Per the Financial Times (not exactly a tinfoil hat publication), Bilderberg member and New York Federal Reserve branch president Timothy Geithner:
QUOTE
"Because of its primary responsibility for the stability of the overall financial system, the Federal Reserve should play a central role in such a framework, working closely with supervisors in the US and in other countries."

They've determined they'll use the current crisis they helped create to expand the power of the FED.

Color me regretably unsurprised.

Apparently according to Jones' inflitrator, members were also heard expressing concern about the fake oil crisis, not because they were worried about how it might hurt average people, but because they were worried that the sharp rise in prices was happening too fast, and was too blatant -- potentially waking up too many people to the reality that they are being intentionally fucked with by a few select morally-bereft individuals at the top of the power pyramid.
5by5
Perhaps we could combine these threads?

http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/index...amp;#entry37796
5by5
Additional info here as well:

http://www.infowars.com/?p=2590
Hannibal
A more rational look.
Seeker1
QUOTE (Hannibal @ Jun 10 2008, 09:09 AM) *


Hmmmm.

http://www.slate.com/id/2193220/pagenum/2

That's not to say the critics' inquiries never produce anything of value. I enjoy reading the documentary material they dig up and can only encourage them to dig deeper. Just last month, Barack Obama tapped a prominent Bilderberger, James A. Johnson, to vet possible vice presidential candidates. Johnson provided similar veep vetting for the Democratic Party in 2004—which, as noted above, resulted in the selection of a Bilderberg attendee. The AP also reports that Johnson helped Walter Mondale pick a veep nominee in 1984.

Who is Jim Johnson? He's the former head of Fannie Mae, a power on Wall Street, and a regular Bilderberg attendee. As recently as 2006, Johnson has been the treasurer of the nonprofit American Friends of Bilderberg Inc., according to the group's Form 990 on file at Guidestar.org. According to the fractured jargon of the filing, American Friends of Bilderberg is in the business of "Organizing & sponsoring conferences which study & discuss significant problems of the Western Alliance. Collaborating on the Bilderberg meetings held in Europe & North America." The group spent $112,533 in 2006.

Still, the fact that an active Democratic supporter has performed return duty as a veep vetter stops several stations short of arriving at a shadow government. It does, however, indicate that Johnson's political influence may be underscrutinized by the press and that his career is deserving of extra study and attention. A May 24 Wall Street Journal story, "Power Broker Helps Obama Search for Running Mate," does just that. Although it makes no mention of Johnson's Bilderberg connection, it drops a gentle dig that associates Johnson's Fannie Mae service with the home-loan crisis.

[snip]

See what happens when you do a little reporting?

Well, there you go CT crowd: a guy on his VP vetting list is a Bilderberger.


5by5
QUOTE (Seeker1 @ Jun 10 2008, 06:26 AM) *
It does, however, indicate that Johnson's/Bilderberg political influence may be underscrutinized by the press and that his career is deserving of extra study and attention.

See what happens when you do a little reporting?

Oh you with the fun-facts..... wink.gif

FYI John Edwards was invited to attend in 2003-4 too, if I recall correctly, but I don't think they liked what he had to say, and spat him back out again.
egghead
Now am curious if Caroline Kennedy is a Build-a-Burger. huh.gif

Yum. Secrecy can be so seductive. Am sure that is half the power of it.

Seeker1
QUOTE (5by5 @ Jun 10 2008, 10:08 AM) *
Oh you with the fun-facts..... wink.gif

FYI John Edwards was invited to attend in 2003-4 too, if I recall correctly, but I don't think they liked what he had to say, and spat him back out again.


Folks ... all I'm saying is ... for an anti-establishment pol, there's a lot of establishment on his team.

I don't need to adjust my tinfoil to notice this.



Rainbow2005
I am not really that concerned with the Bilderberg Group. I think it is mixed. There are good guys and bad guys who are very powerful that are a part of this group. I am more concerned about the lizards in the Illuminati and other secret organizations that Bush Sr. is a part of.

There have always been elites pulling the strings. It is not democratic but that is the way it is. Not all secret societies are bad. I just hope the good guys prevail in these secret battles.
Alildotonearth
QUOTE (Morgan @ Jun 5 2008, 02:47 PM) *
Thursday, Friday and Saturday, June 5 -7.

Alex Jones, We Are Change and seasoned investigative journalists who have been following these criminals for decades.

You know why they chose a US site for their meeting again? BECAUSE, our Patriot Act have given them 'shielding' or 'secrecy' they require to carry on in unobstructed privacy. AND our beloved corporate media will suppress it's existence, AGAIN.

Isn't it lovely, America, 'The Safe Haven' for Globalists.


A loose affiliation of billionares and millionares and lasers in the jungle somewhere, these are the days of miracle and wonder...

I listened to Jones the other night going on about the "Men in Black" harrassing people who speak out or research certain events. Not the first time I have heard those stories and that goes back to other stories I have heard in the past. Seems the families of the keepers of secrets were harrassed from back in the day. Generally, he must be talking about threats to secrecy.

Am not sure if the Patriot Act gives that kind of authority. Only certain Federal Law enforcement agencies have limited powers in public domain. Most other agencies only have jursidiction within a certain parameters of buildings associated to their tasks. Of course anyone could claim or pretend to have any kind of authority with or without a real or fake badge. I would think contractors to be stupid in general too.
Morgan
QUOTE (Alildotonearth @ Jun 10 2008, 08:15 PM) *
A loose affiliation of billionares and millionares and lasers in the jungle somewhere, these are the days of miracle and wonder...

I listened to Jones the other night going on about the "Men in Black" harrassing people who speak out or research certain events. Not the first time I have heard those stories and that goes back to other stories I have heard in the past. Seems the families of the keepers of secrets were harrassed from back in the day. Generally, he must be talking about threats to secrecy.

Am not sure if the Patriot Act gives that kind of authority. Only certain Federal Law enforcement agencies have limited powers in public domain. Most other agencies only have jursidiction within a certain parameters of buildings associated to their tasks. Of course anyone could claim or pretend to have any kind of authority with or without a real or fake badge. I would think contractors to be stupid in general too.


You didn't understand what I said. The Patriot Act gives meetings such as this protection from the masses...remember 'free speech zones'? Set up far far away from any effect? Considering the unbelievable economic destruction of the country, why so few have not gone to the streets en masse, should be very disturbing to us all. The media makes sure we all know about the latest supposed non-lethal crowd control technology. We see police brutality go uncontested by their superiors or city governments. We see police beat citizens, then aresst the victims claiming the victim resisted arrest or assaulted an officer. We see people tasered by police without any regard to their age or health.

The Bilderberg Meeting is completely covered with 'men in black'...most of them secret service or foreign secret service. No matter, the secret service does not work for US, anyway. Actually, I would go so far as to say nobody works for US, anymore.
Alildotonearth
QUOTE (Morgan @ Jun 14 2008, 12:25 AM) *
You didn't understand what I said. The Patriot Act gives meetings such as this protection from the masses...remember 'free speech zones'? Set up far far away from any effect? Considering the unbelievable economic destruction of the country, why so few have not gone to the streets en masse, should be very disturbing to us all. The media makes sure we all know about the latest supposed non-lethal crowd control technology. We see police brutality go uncontested by their superiors or city governments. We see police beat citizens, then aresst the victims claiming the victim resisted arrest or assaulted an officer. We see people tasered by police without any regard to their age or health.

The Bilderberg Meeting is completely covered with 'men in black'...most of them secret service or foreign secret service. No matter, the secret service does not work for US, anyway. Actually, I would go so far as to say nobody works for US, anymore.



I am not familiar with free speech zones in reference to Patriot Act. I would have to look it as per specific title. I know the Patriot Act does contain legislation incorporating the term "Radical Patriot" which is very open to interpretation if you were to ask me.

Again, I will state that United States Secret Service has specific tasks related to protecting the President, Presidential candidates and certain functions of the treasury such as conterfietting money. By legislative and constitutional authorities their duties are limited in scope and task to their specific functions. I would suggest that United States Secret Service protection at such a meeting would be legally limited to guarding participants in which are afforded protection by Secret Service under the Law. I have no clue how foreign Secret Service Agent work or are permitted to work on United States soil under current law suffice to say a foreign leader would probably have to be attending such a meeting.

There are other such agency responsiblities such as guarding foreign Embassy on United States soil but the scope of that protection is reserved to Official Embassy dwellings and/or an Ambassodor's residence.

There are all sorts of security people for hire having prior clearances at numerous levels of security having once been United States Military of Civil Servants. That does not mean they are currently employed by Uncle Sam but it is in the realm of possiblilities some of these people are employed by contractors having both domestic and foreign government contracts as well as private contracting services. There is evidence or these crossover functions today through revelations that Contractors for the State Department breached files of Senator Obama.

There are lots of stories about the families of people with secrets being threatened in order to prevent public disclosures. However, once certain parties are deceased, certain stories or I suspect cover stories re-emerge from time to time. There are legal agreements that are upheld such as non-disclosure agreements which have specific time limits anywhere from 10-50 years I would guess. There are also departments within certain agencies tasked with retrieving and retaining information withheld in matters of Homeland and National Security.

Now, it is not too far of a stretch of the imagination to premise that people abusing power will also abuse tools designed in the interest of national security to use those same tools as cover-up or try to prevent political or heritage embarrassment. In fact, Leahy and Specter introduced a State Secrets Act designed to prevent the abuse of such tools such as an FOIA exception for National Security sensitive information. A history afforded by the ACLU shows unneccessary gags on gags which tried to prevent the public from knowing a gag was placed on a gag of specific requested FOIAs. These issues are coming to a head and will continue to gain momentum in the next four years as secrecy within government erodes public support for government through distrust.

Look, in the late 70s truckers protested all over the United States just as protests are occuring in Europe right now over fuel costs. There is a point whereby the public will lose patience and tolerance for a perpetual lameduck federal government. A government by the people and for the people will protect both protesters and their targets. If members of the Westboro Baptist Church were afforded protection by the FBI, guess who else they have to protect ? There are many aspects good and bad to the law concerning free and democratic societies.

Otherwise some people just like to make up stories to sell survival gear on late night radio, imnsho.
Morgan
QUOTE (Alildotonearth @ Jun 14 2008, 01:04 AM) *
I am not familiar with free speech zones in reference to Patriot Act. I would have to look it as per specific title. I know the Patriot Act does contain legislation incorporating the term "Radical Patriot" which is very open to interpretation if you were to ask me.

Again, I will state that United States Secret Service has specific tasks related to protecting the President, Presidential candidates and certain functions of the treasury such as conterfietting money. By legislative and constitutional authorities their duties are limited in scope and task to their specific functions. I would suggest that United States Secret Service protection at such a meeting would be legally limited to guarding participants in which are afforded protection by Secret Service under the Law. I have no clue how foreign Secret Service Agent work or are permitted to work on United States soil under current law suffice to say a foreign leader would probably have to be attending such a meeting.

There are other such agency responsiblities such as guarding foreign Embassy on United States soil but the scope of that protection is reserved to Official Embassy dwellings and/or an Ambassodor's residence.

There are all sorts of security people for hire having prior clearances at numerous levels of security having once been United States Military of Civil Servants. That does not mean they are currently employed by Uncle Sam but it is in the realm of possiblilities some of these people are employed by contractors having both domestic and foreign government contracts as well as private contracting services. There is evidence or these crossover functions today through revelations that Contractors for the State Department breached files of Senator Obama.

There are lots of stories about the families of people with secrets being threatened in order to prevent public disclosures. However, once certain parties are deceased, certain stories or I suspect cover stories re-emerge from time to time. There are legal agreements that are upheld such as non-disclosure agreements which have specific time limits anywhere from 10-50 years I would guess. There are also departments within certain agencies tasked with retrieving and retaining information withheld in matters of Homeland and National Security.

Now, it is not too far of a stretch of the imagination to premise that people abusing power will also abuse tools designed in the interest of national security to use those same tools as cover-up or try to prevent political or heritage embarrassment. In fact, Leahy and Specter introduced a State Secrets Act designed to prevent the abuse of such tools such as an FOIA exception for National Security sensitive information. A history afforded by the ACLU shows unneccessary gags on gags which tried to prevent the public from knowing a gag was placed on a gag of specific requested FOIAs. These issues are coming to a head and will continue to gain momentum in the next four years as secrecy within government erodes public support for government through distrust.

Look, in the late 70s truckers protested all over the United States just as protests are occuring in Europe right now over fuel costs. There is a point whereby the public will lose patience and tolerance for a perpetual lameduck federal government. A government by the people and for the people will protect both protesters and their targets. If members of the Westboro Baptist Church were afforded protection by the FBI, guess who else they have to protect ? There are many aspects good and bad to the law concerning free and democratic societies.

Otherwise some people just like to make up stories to sell survival gear on late night radio, imnsho.


When was the last time you went to Washington to protest? We have no Habeas Corpus. There is no Posse Comitatus. You can be put on a renditioned jet and never be seen again. And there isn't a damn thing anyone can do..you just get disappeared, if they want you that bad.

When you describe the USA, you're describing the past. Back when there were maybe 300,000 police protecting the country? There are now 1 million in the police and security forces..that doesnt even include military personel on the bases.

You said: "There are many aspects good and bad to the law concerning free and democratic societies."

Well yeah. If we lived in a free and democratic society.
Alildotonearth
QUOTE (Morgan @ Jun 14 2008, 01:36 AM) *
When was the last time you went to Washington to protest? We have no Habeas Corpus. There is no Posse Comitatus. You can be put on a renditioned jet and never be seen again. And there isn't a damn thing anyone can do..you just get disappeared, if they want you that bad.

When you describe the USA, you're describing the past. Back when there were maybe 300,000 police protecting the country? There are now 1 million in the police and security forces..that doesnt even include military personel on the bases.

You said: "There are many aspects good and bad to the law concerning free and democratic societies."

Well yeah. If we lived in a free and democratic society.



Well look if you want to act out on your paranoia that is on you. If you do act out on your paranoia then they do own you. People don't think they have the rights of self protection because people very rarely act to protect themselves. There is an old saying about government. They won't act until their backs are against the wall. Why do you think people have still not contained the subprime housing crisis ?
Alildotonearth
QUOTE (Alildotonearth @ Jun 14 2008, 01:04 AM) *
Again, I will state that United States Secret Service has specific tasks related to protecting the President, Presidential candidates and certain functions of the treasury such as conterfietting money. By legislative and constitutional authorities their duties are limited in scope and task to their specific functions. I would suggest that United States Secret Service protection at such a meeting would be legally limited to guarding participants in which are afforded protection by Secret Service under the Law. I have no clue how foreign Secret Service Agent work or are permitted to work on United States soil under current law suffice to say a foreign leader would probably have to be attending such a meeting.


Otherwise some people just like to make up stories to sell survival gear on late night radio, imnsho.


I made a mistake here. Senators Kennedy and Specter are sponsers of the State Secrets Act.
Morgan
QUOTE (Alildotonearth @ Jun 14 2008, 01:58 AM) *
Well look if you want to act out on your paranoia that is on you. If you do act out on your paranoia then they do own you. People don't think they have the rights of self protection because people very rarely act to protect themselves. There is an old saying about government. They won't act until their backs are against the wall. Why do you think people have still not contained the subprime housing crisis ?


You don't seem to be saying anything concrete. You're relying on an old mold, the USA we're suppose to believe is in operation, but it doesn't really exist today.

The Banks designed this collapse. It's just that simple. You don't need to waste your time describing 'the structure' and how I'm wrong, here. I can only suggest that you read more about the historic relationship between banking and congress. We can't even begin to dialogue unless you've done this first. So far, what you're trying to describe is the 'psyop', not the reality of the situations.

Randys
to believe they are deciding the fate of the world seems a bit self defeating, what point then is there to vote?

nah, they arent deciding the fate of the world, but I bet they have a lot of input into it...
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