While I see your point.... I would also say that it is the audiences fault for putting all gays in the same category. An intelligent person would know that Jesse doesn't speak for all gays. Just like all whites, blacks, women do not think the same... I think we would all be doing the GLBT community a disservice by putting all of you in the same box.

While I see your point.... I would also say that it is the audiences fault for putting all gays in the same category. An intelligent person would know that Jesse doesn't speak for all gays. Just like all whites, blacks, women do not think the same... I think we would all be doing the GLBT community a disservice by putting all of you in the same box.

I said it in a moment when everyone was being mean to me. I am all for peace, I don't wish anyone dead, plus that particular person compared me and all gay men to the "nazi circa"

Gay brains structured like those of the opposite sex

* 11:13 16 June 2008
* NewScientist.com news service
* Andy Coghlan

Brain scans have provided the most compelling evidence yet that being gay or straight is a biologically fixed trait.

The scans reveal that in gay people, key structures of the brain governing emotion, mood, anxiety and aggressiveness resemble those in straight people of the opposite sex.

The differences are likely to have been forged in the womb or in early infancy, says Ivanka Savic, who conducted the study at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden.

"This is the most robust measure so far of cerebral differences between homosexual and heterosexual subjects," she says.

Previous studies have also shown differences in brain architecture and activity between gay and straight people, but most relied on people's responses to sexuality driven cues that could have been learned, such as rating the attractiveness of male or female faces.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1414...s5_head_dn14146

I'm convinced that a person's sexual orientation is hereditary.

Going back to my grandfather's family, there is one gay person (3 males and 1 female) in each of the succeeding generations.

So you base your conclusions on flimsy anecdotal evidence?

Bzzzt, wrong answer.

Homosexuality has been observed in every mammal species. I would think that that was enough proof right there. It is hard to argue that a gay mouse is gay because of poor upbringing.

A pair of male flamingos have become foster parents after adopting an abandoned chick in Gloucestershire.

Carlos and Fernando had tried to start their own family by stealing eggs from other flamingos at the Wildfowl & Wetlands Trust (WWT) in Slimbridge.

But their sitting and hatching skills impressed staff so much, that when a nest was abandoned last week, they were chosen to "adopt" the chick.

The new flamingo family is said to be doing well.

Who, Peak??? NEVER would he draw a conclusion based upon ancedotal evidence!!!

I was offering my opinion, which is what everyone else on this thread has done.

I was offering my opinion, which is what everyone else on this thread has done.

So again, you base your conclusions about an entire group of people on a personal anecdote?

And non-mammalian species as well. Many bird species have been observed to have homosexual relationships.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/glouces...ire/6679315.stm

[crickets]

I was just teasing you Peak, I like you and I expect I'll learn a lot from you which is the reason I added you to my friends.

What a sweet story!!!

As long as only your ego has shrunk.........

I've heard gay men's hypothalamus' tend to be larger.
Is that why I can give myself goose bumps on cue? That physical reaction is governed by the hypothalamus....

As long as only your ego has shrunk.........

I've heard gay men's hypothalamus' tend to be larger.
Is that why I can give myself goose bumps on cue? That physical reaction is governed by the hypothalamus....

Who knows how many hetero avian relationships will be destroyed because these two flaming flaunting fairy flamigos are encouraged to fly in the face of fundamental family f.... f... Values?

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As an aside, I want to add My opinion
about Gay union, Gay marriage, ect.

I want to scream even at Randi about
Gay Marriage, be it MM or FF:

Marriage is NOT a Religious affair. PERIOD.
It is a Government controlled institution, as you
Must get a license from the Government before
you bring your religion into the fray.

You rock

I'm assuming this was directed towards me. If so I'm not sure what you are looking for. Thus far, several people have weighed in on this thread - offering their opinion. That's exactly what I offered - my opinion.

The question has been, why does such little evidence convince you, leading you to your "opinion"?

Answers?

First I don't agree that my observation constitutes little evidence. How many families do you know where there is a gay in each of the preceding 4 generations. I don't think this is random and believe it is genetic.

Second, I'm curious why you have singled me out for the third degree.

Belief, not fact.

How many families do you know where there are straights in 4 generations?

How come nobody asks these questions about heterosexuality?



Because you're cute.

Belief, not fact.

How many families do you know where there are straights in 4 generations?

How come nobody asks these questions about heterosexuality?

Because you're cute.

Peak IS cute. Makes one wonder.

I'm gonna go out on limb here and say that I don't believe that being gay is inherited at all. If it was, the gene wouldn't last too long for obvious reasons.

This whole thing about brain size and such reminds me of the way they used to try and predict whether someone would be a criminal back in the early 1900s based on skull type .... body type and it usually described someone of Mediterranean descent....

With homosexuality, the genetic argument is being used to "normalize" homosexuality, and it has become political correct to go along with this theory.

I'm gonna go out on limb here and say that I don't believe that being gay is inherited at all. If it was, the gene wouldn't last too long for obvious reasons.

This whole thing about brain size and such reminds me of the way they used to try and predict whether someone would be a criminal back in the early 1900s based on skull type .... body type and it usually described someone of Mediterranean descent....

With homosexuality, the genetic argument is being used to "normalize" homosexuality, and it has become political correct to go along with this theory.

so what causes it? And why is it so commonly observed in animals other than humans and why hasn't it died out there? Or did you just forget the click on the sarcasm thing?

From my grandfathers family extending through to my nieces and nephews, we are probably talking well over 100 relatives. I don't think 4 gays amongst all of my relatives would be considered outside the statistical norm for a genetic argument.

There is no evidence of this as far as I know.

From my grandfathers family extending through to my nieces and nephews, we are probably talking well over 100 relatives. I don't think 4 gays amongst all of my relatives would be considered outside the statistical norm for a genetic argument.

With homosexuality, the genetic argument is being used to "normalize" homosexuality, and it has become political[ly] correct to go along with this theory.

Four that you are certain about. Don't make an ass out of Uma Thurman by assuming all of your relatives are honest about their sexuality. It might be forty, bucko.

so what causes it? And why is it so commonly observed in animals other than humans and why hasn't it died out there? Or did you just forget the click on the sarcasm thing?

I'm assuming this is a rhetorical question.

What causes heterosexuality?

I'm gonna go out on limb here and say that I don't believe that being gay is inherited at all. If it was, the gene wouldn't last too long for obvious reasons.

This whole thing about brain size and such reminds me of the way they used to try and predict whether someone would be a criminal back in the early 1900s based on skull type .... body type and it usually described someone of Mediterranean descent....

With homosexuality, the genetic argument is being used to "normalize" homosexuality, and it has become political correct to go along with this theory.

We recently had a family renunion, where a very comprehensive family tree was constructed and displayed in a very elaborate slideshow that recycled throughout most of the event. The family tree made every attempt to show each family members profile, spouse and siblings. Those family members who were gay, were profiled along with their life partner. No attempt was made to cover any of this up.

It was at this family renunion where I discovered that my grandfather's brother was gay (I already knew about the other 3). Prior to the reunion I didn't really make the 4 generation connection.

So what.

Things get wired funny in development. Even before development things can get wired funny, genes cross over creating mutations. It happens more often than you think. It's usually harmless but more often than not it changes things.

Anyone who has even cursory knowledge of genetics shouldn't be surprised by this.