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Crooks and Liars: Lara Logan on The Daily Show

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egghead
eggzactly
egghead
eszactly (why have real news? truth hurts our little feelings - can't have that) American Propagandy - ignorance is bliss.



P.s.

And little girl Lara shouldn't say BAD WORDS.

(breaking ice in warzone for little girl reporter? yo, whatsup mofo)
bushwa

This was an amazing piece - I kept meaning to post it yesterday and forgot. I also confess I was somewhat gobsmacked by the extremely attractive and appealing Ms. Logan, and also couldn't help but KEEP noticing that she for some reason positioned herself SO FAR from Stewart one had to wonder if she had some sort of serious problem with him.

Boy, take an exceptionally hot woman, make her that smart and good at what she does, give her that attitude, and I'm surprised the chair she was in didn't burst into flames.

There were moments of discomfort, however, as she joked about using RPGs and the Jihadi Manual on Suicide bombing to get editors to run her stories.

HERE IS A LINK to the full episode so y'all can watch the ENTIRE interview with her. She starts at about 13:10 in the show. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

"Tell me the last time you saw the body of a dead American soldier. Who in America knows what that looks like. I know what that looks like, and I feel responsible that no one else in America knows what that looks like."

LARA LOGAN, CBS News Chief Foreign Correspondent




who
QUOTE (bushwa @ Jun 19 2008, 10:44 AM) *
This was an amazing piece - I kept meaning to post it yesterday and forgot. I also confess I was somewhat gobsmacked by the extremely attractive and appealing Ms. Logan, and also couldn't help but KEEP noticing that she for some reason positioned herself SO FAR from Stewart one had to wonder if she had some sort of serious problem with him.

Boy, take an exceptionally hot woman, make her that smart and good at what she does, give her that attitude, and I'm surprised the chair she was in didn't burst into flames.

There were moments of discomfort, however, as she joked about using RPGs and the Jihadi Manual on Suicide bombing to get editors to run her stories.

HERE IS A LINK to the full episode so y'all can watch the ENTIRE interview with her. She starts at about 13:10 in the show. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

"Tell me the last time you saw the body of a dead American soldier. Who in America knows what that looks like. I know what that looks like, and I feel responsible that no one else in America knows what that looks like."

LARA LOGAN, CBS News Chief Foreign Correspondent


Gee, I was in the middle of reading this post and thought I'd stumbled into Playboy's letters section. Wonderful how you are able to zero in on what's important. sarcasm.gif
rottmom
QUOTE (who @ Jun 19 2008, 11:36 AM) *
Gee, I was in the middle of reading this post and thought I'd stumbled into Playboy's letters section. Wonderful how you are able to zero in on what's important. sarcasm.gif


What? I didn't see anything wrong with that post. He made his point while adding something extra. Bushwa is verbose, its just who he is. We've come to know and accept that about him.

If its a problem, I suggest putting him on ignore. I ignore him all the time.
who
QUOTE (rottmom @ Jun 19 2008, 11:43 AM) *
What? I didn't see anything wrong with that post. He made his point while adding something extra. Bushwa is verbose, its just who he is. We've come to know and accept that about him.

If its a problem, I suggest putting him on ignore. I ignore him all the time.


Verbose? Reading his posts is like reading through an entire metropolitan phone book to get to the number you need.



egghead
QUOTE (who @ Jun 19 2008, 10:51 AM) *
Verbose? Reading his posts is like reading through an entire metropolitan phone book to get to the number you need.


No Who. Shame. Bad boy. Spanky, spanky. whip.gif spank.gif You have to accept what Bushwa is and be HAPPPY. He used to warn us about nit pickin. Don't know. Maybe he conquered that little pecadillo. Anyway, it's all okay. Smooth as a smoothie. Ya see?


Rules of Order:
First, it is bad to get personal with another poster. Stick to what Lara was trying to say - not what Bushwa was trying to say, if you can.

Second, Who, does this have ANYTHING to do with Bushwa questioning certain sources on this board. Please WHo, examine what you really are angry about, before I lovingly give you another virtual spanky. wub.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif wink.gif rolleyes.gif

(oh, god, can't decide if I feel sarcasmic or orgasmic right now) (that felt good)
roborok
Just like Randi,Lara Logan is a babe & she RAWKSS!!! wub.gif yipee.gif sm.png
who
QUOTE (egghead @ Jun 19 2008, 12:05 PM) *
No Who. Shame. Bad boy. Spanky, spanky. whip.gif spank.gif You have to accept what Bushwa is and be HAPPPY. He used to warn us about nit pickin. Don't know. Maybe he conquered that little pecadillo. Anyway, it's all okay. Smooth as a smoothie. Ya see?


Okay I've been annoyed with Bushwa...and it's just the mood I'm in:



As for the spankings... mellow.gif ohmy.gif tongue.gif wub.gif meltdown.gif
egghead
QUOTE (roborok @ Jun 19 2008, 11:12 AM) *
Just like Randi,Lara Logan is a babe & she RAWKSS!!! wub.gif yipee.gif sm.png




Don't want to piss on this thread too much more than it already has been, but Randi is better.

Sorry. My 2 cents, and I do have some.

Now, I shall go look for a bigger, badder link to top Bushwa's link. tongue.gif
egghead
QUOTE (who @ Jun 19 2008, 11:28 AM) *
Okay I've been annoyed with Bushwa...and it's just the mood I'm in:



As for the spankings... mellow.gif ohmy.gif tongue.gif wub.gif meltdown.gif


I own you now. tongue.gif

friends3.gif

As for the real subject of this thread? Let's NOT get off topic - shall we?

Have ya America? Seen a body of dead American soldier? Seen any mangling of something after an IUD?

Thank you news media.
bushwa
QUOTE (rottmom @ Jun 19 2008, 08:43 AM) *
What? I didn't see anything wrong with that post. He made his point while adding something extra. Bushwa is verbose, its just who he is. We've come to know and accept that about him.

If its a problem, I suggest putting him on ignore. I ignore him all the time.


Who is on a little stalking mission for the last two days, Rottmom. Maybe the cash-rewards check from Wayne didn't show up this month, I dunno. But these non-sequitors are par for the course of late.

You know, I put the line about dead soldiers in large type and bold, and Who can only see the sex. I guess some people get off on that stuff.
L-Rey-LA
QUOTE (bushwa @ Jun 19 2008, 09:35 AM) *
Who is on a little stalking mission for the last two days, Rottmom. Maybe the cash-rewards check from Wayne didn't show up this month, I dunno. But these non-sequitors are par for the course of late.

You know, I put the line about dead soldiers in large type and bold, and Who can only see the sex. I guess some people get off on that stuff.

Actually I thought you nailed the whole awkwardness which was a significant part of the interview - even Stewart hit on her being this "intimidating" presence and speaking the truth that other "reporters" haven't.

The comments on suicide bombers were almost out of place almost like a self defense mechanism. "An abnormal reaction..." It was almost surreal her describing the hotel exploding beneath her.
who
Logan is one of the few reporters covering the wars who has actually been doing her job. While complicit corporate media has largely conformed to the propaganda requirements of Bushco, Logan has fearlessly and tenaciously reported on what has actually been going on in the Middle East.

Anyone who has any question about her motives or character should view this video from last year wherein she takes BOR to task for his failure to address the war:

QUOTE
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/24/l...on-bill-oreilly

She also responded to Bill O’Reilly’s argument about why he doesn’t cover the Iraq war all that much…

LOGAN: Well, I mean, with all due respect to Bill O’Reilly or anyone who takes that line, I mean, I just — it’s ridiculous. It’s completely and utterly ludicrous. And how can you — the media’s job is not to serve one side or the other. That’s never been our job. We’re there to be the watchdog for all sides.

So it’s not up to us to say, oh, you know, it doesn’t — it doesn’t do well for the war effort if you show how many people are being killed, so we’re not going to show it. I mean, what are we talking about? That’s not even journalism.

It’s so ridiculous. I actually don’t think that I should — I mean, you shouldn’t have to stoop to address those kinds of issues.

And also, I mean, where are all of these people who think that we’re helping the terrorists’ cause? I mean, what about the fact that this is the reality, that these bombings are still taking place, that in spite of the surge, and people are still dying in Iraq, that huge numbers of American soldiers are dying over here? I mean, now we’re in the game of hiding, only telling what some people want to hear? That’s not what we do.


I like Jon Stewart, but I don't think that he's had to put on a flak jacket and helmet in order to do his job.




egghead
QUOTE (who @ Jun 19 2008, 04:18 PM) *
Logan is one of the few reporters covering the wars who has actually been doing her job. While complicit corporate media has largely conformed to the propaganda requirements of Bushco, Logan has fearlessly and tenaciously reported on what has actually been going on in the Middle East.

Anyone who has any question about her motives or character should view this video from last year wherein she takes BOR to task for his failure to address the war:



I like Jon Stewart, but I don't think that he's had to put on a flak jacket and helmet in order to do his job.


I think it must be very difficult for her to come back to a country that has largely ignored this illegal, bloody oil war. JUst like our soldiers feel. She's seen a lot.

I think her rhetoric matches the circumstances perfectly. We need that language AND the pictures.
L-Rey-LA
QUOTE (who @ Jun 19 2008, 02:18 PM) *
Logan is one of the few reporters covering the wars who has actually been doing her job. While complicit corporate media has largely conformed to the propaganda requirements of Bushco, Logan has fearlessly and tenaciously reported on what has actually been going on in the Middle East.

Anyone who has any question about her motives or character should view this video from last year wherein she takes BOR to task for his failure to address the war:



I like Jon Stewart, but I don't think that he's had to put on a flak jacket and helmet in order to do his job.

I think that's why he was somewhat in awe of her and David Iglesias as well the other night.
bushwa
QUOTE (L-Rey-LA @ Jun 19 2008, 03:04 PM) *
I think that's why he was somewhat in awe of her and David Iglesias as well the other night.



Iglesias - that was another GREAT piece.
egghead
QUOTE (L-Rey-LA @ Jun 19 2008, 05:04 PM) *
I think that's why he was somewhat in awe of her and David Iglesias as well the other night.


Translation: Bushwa is not being sexist . . . tongue.gif

(God, I feel so real today - free, somehow. )

(Time for a snoopy dance.)

Hummm . . . wonder where Brother David is? He started this thread, btw. Aww, I don't blame him for not coming back.
egghead
Must add: As my beloved, platonic, future ex-husband, friend (Brother D) sometimes says: You ARE a caution. wink.gif tongue.gif
egghead
QUOTE (who @ Jun 19 2008, 04:18 PM) *
Logan is one of the few reporters covering the wars who has actually been doing her job. While complicit corporate media has largely conformed to the propaganda requirements of Bushco, Logan has fearlessly and tenaciously reported on what has actually been going on in the Middle East.

Anyone who has any question about her motives or character should view this video from last year wherein she takes BOR to task for his failure to address the war:



I like Jon Stewart, but I don't think that he's had to put on a flak jacket and helmet in order to do his job.


Couldn't get the video to come up. Here's a little of the transcript of her 2007 work:

Oh, the pervasive hypocrisy that is revealed. And I would say she takes on more than O'Really. I'll bet we only know half the story about what's going in Iraq. What ya bet? This is just about the orphan boys, though.

QUOTE
KURTZ: And joining us now from Baghdad to talk about the story and coverage of the war is CBS’s chief foreign correspondent, Lara Logan.

You’ve seen a lot of war and devastation on your beat. What was your gut reaction personally when seeing the pictures of these young boys?

LOGAN: It was hard to believe. I mean, nobody can look at those pictures and not be absolutely shocked to the core. And I think that that’s one of the big problems with this story, because the Iraqis who were there that night, the soldiers who were there and saw how these boys were kept, they understand just how evil it was, what was done to them.

But what you’re hearing from the Iraqi government and even from some American officials is that, oh, there was no electricity, that’s how it happened, and they were tied up for their own good. And, you know, they’re special needs children, they don’t — they are disabled, so they would have been dead otherwise if they hadn’t been in this place. And my feeling is, if anyone who can say anything like that hasn’t looked at those pictures and hasn’t seen those children and doesn’t want to see those children — because to take that kind of line when you know what was done to these boys, I think it’s criminal.

KURTZ: How did you get on to this story? Was it an effort by the U.S.

military to generate some good news for a change for the American side?

LOGAN: Now, Howie, you cover the media, so you know that no good journalist discloses their sources. I can’t tell you how I came upon the story, but what I can tell you is that it was not an attempt by the U.S. military.

In fact, what you will be interested to know about is how difficult it was for me to tell this story, which the soldiers themselves thought the media was deliberately hiding it. What they didn’t know was that the Army hadn’t told anyone about this for a week. And I found out through my own private means, and when I did, I went to the military.

I was given a lot of support from the unit, a lot of support from the division. But as it started to go higher up the ranks, to the more political thinkers on the American side, I hit a wall. And I was told that I needed Iraqi government permission from the Ministry of Labor to do this story, because they said the Iraqis had the lead.

That’s one of their favorite sayings over here, is the Iraqis have the lead on this. And my response to that was, why do I need permission from the Iraqi government to speak to American soldiers?

And I was told because, you know, the Iraqis were the ones who saved these boys. And I said, “Well, that’s very interesting, because I am looking at photographs of American soldiers carrying emaciated boys, and I don’t see any Iraqi soldiers in these pictures.”

And there was a silence on the end of the phone by someone who was actually trying to help me. And they said, “OK, we’ll come back to you.” And actually, it’s only because I had a two-hour meeting with a top general in this country who gave me his full approval. That was how I broke through the wall and managed to get to do the story.

KURTZ: Boy, it’s fascinating that they actually would throw roadblocks in your path.

Now, as you know, in the middle of the week the Iraqi labor minister put out a statement and said, “We totally reject the tricks they use to manipulate and distort facts and show the Americans as the humanitarian party. That could not be further from the truth. Is it just propaganda for their alleged kindness?”

What did you make of that response by the Iraqi government?

LOGAN: You mean besides blind rage on my part when I heard those words?

KURTZ: Right.

LOGAN: That — I mean, it really — that was how we all felt, because to say something like that, to make this political, to make this more about politics and about staying in power, and self-justification than about these boys, as I said to you before, I think that’s criminal. And it’s not only deceitful, it’s completely and utterly untrue.

And I don’t know how — I mean, Prime Minister Maliki ordered all the people involved in this incident at the orphanage to be arrested. And yet, the minister of labor stood at that press conference where he made those remarks and had the manager of the orphanage next to him, standing there to publicly defend and justify his actions.

I mean, so that demonstrates to me not only that Prime Minister Maliki either doesn’t have control or is not exercising control, and that the ministry — the minister of labor is, I mean, he’s dishonest and he shouldn’t be allowed to do this. I mean, but this ministry is what you call a Sadrite ministry connected to Muqtada al-Sadr and Jaish al-Mahdi, and it seems like they are able to do their own thing. And they will try and justify this any way they can
egghead
QUOTE (bushwa @ Jun 19 2008, 11:35 AM) *
Who is on a little stalking mission for the last two days, Rottmom. Maybe the cash-rewards check from Wayne didn't show up this month, I dunno. But these non-sequitors are par for the course of late.

You know, I put the line about dead soldiers in large type and bold, and Who can only see the sex. I guess some people get off on that stuff.


The beginning, though. And it is the beginning. tongue.gif

QUOTE
This was an amazing piece - I kept meaning to post it yesterday and forgot. I also confess I was somewhat gobsmacked by the extremely attractive and appealing Ms. Logan, and also couldn't help but KEEP noticing that she for some reason positioned herself SO FAR from Stewart one had to wonder if she had some sort of serious problem with him.

Boy, take an exceptionally hot woman, make her that smart and good at what she does, give her that attitude, and I'm surprised the chair she was in didn't burst into flames.


Yum, hot, in a hot war zone, among so many dead, mutilated bodies, and orphanges full of tied up little, disabled boys. I could just eat her up.

(I hate those darn sarcasm cartoons too.)
L-Rey-LA
QUOTE (egghead @ Jun 19 2008, 04:06 PM) *
Translation: Bushwa is not being sexist . . . tongue.gif

(God, I feel so real today - free, somehow. )

(Time for a snoopy dance.)

Hummm . . . wonder where Brother David is? He started this thread, btw. Aww, I don't blame him for not coming back.

Thanks for the assist!

Snoopy dance... laugh.gif ...where's Buffy when you need her?...actually Logan makes a good Buffy!
egghead
QUOTE (L-Rey-LA @ Jun 19 2008, 09:04 PM) *
Thanks for the assist!

Snoopy dance... laugh.gif ...where's Buffy when you need her?...actually Logan makes a good Buffy!


Yup, vampire slayer.

And how about that Jon Stewart? I actually own stock in Jon Stewart. I own him too, I guess. Sorry Bushwa. He's taken. He's mine!! Jon Stewart . .. . serious dude, seriously funny ---- all at the same time!! Who woulda thunk it?? ---- BOTH!! rolleyes.gif
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