If Hillary Clinton had won the nomination and Barack Obama had wound up the one in debt, would she bring him in for any kind of reconciliation?

Would she make any kind of gesture to contribute to his debt? Would she be asking people to help contribute to paying his debt?


Or would she just be thinking, like many other people, that he got the loss he deserved and any African-American candidate, no matter how educated or persuasive, is seriously deluded to think that he/she can become a Presidential nominee?


Personally, I cannot imagine any scenario where Hillary would make any kind of motion to help a losing candidate deal with their debt. I think her reaction would be "I won" and the debt is your responsibility.

I gave money twice to Barack Obama. I would like to continue to contribute but I will do so ONLY AFTER I AM ASSURED that my money will not go to paying off one iota of Clinton's debt.

I feel similarly. But as I understood the story, they essentially TRADED "donations" to each other, as a symbolic gesture, and that Obama asked his supporters to also help out Hillary.

I'm not going to do it, but I can imagine some of his supporters with deeper pockets, who didn't lose COMPLETE respect for Shrillary, would likely toss a few coins her way. And at 20 mill in debt, she'll gladly take 'em.

I don't think its LEGAL to take donations for one campaign, and divert them to another.

But I think it'd be a good idea to email the Obama campaign, just to ask the question, and let your feelings be known.


YES! WE! CAN!

This primary was unprecindented, so who knows ?

I would like to say that Hillary would definitely help out Obama, but it's sad to actually say that I don't know.

You would think that one progressive would definitely help another progressive.

PatriotMatrix-cough cough:

Now if I were a Vet running for office would I get paid back ? Were I disabled would I get paid back ? Were I a midget candidate would I get paid back ? I see where you are going here, it ain't happening in my world. Do you get paid to to excite racial tension ? If so, I would cut off your funds as a matter of discrimination and inciting disunity, nice try.

That's how it starts Gutter and it neva ends does it ?

wtf is wrong with you people? It's over, Hillary isn't running anymore, MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIVES...

Oh wait, I bet if Obama got a paper cut, Hillary would put salt in it, when Obama would dress and wrap the wound if it were Hillary, and give her chocolates.

Fuckin 'ell, get over it already.

if a African-American candidate had lost and been in debt...





WHAT A DOPY FRIGGIN question. Why dont we ALL play the race
horse shit while ignoring the gender issue?

Hammerhead hit it on the head. PLAY the what if game
if you care to after WE DEMS WIN, then feel free to do it on the
"Happy Hour" board, only after you are high, stupid or Highly Stupid.

oboy

The short and long answer are both No.

And Hammerhead, this would be over if Hillary didn't expect Obama to help pay down her debt.

Peace

To address the thread: probably not.

That said, Hammerhead is entirely correct. We need to move on.

Agreed!

From what I understand this is pretty common. If thats true I'm not sure why they are making a big deal about it.

Obama has not asked for money from internet donors. Only the largest donors; so far.

I think she would have.

Certain parties want to make a big deal out of it, like the title of this thread, trying to make a racial thing out of it. I think that dividing the country is Unamerican. Constitutional insight leads to me to type, "In order to form a more perfect union...".

I support Obama. But I don't think dwelling on Hillary bashing is productive. That could change, but I'd like to see us focus on the real challenges before us.

The fact is that Barack won and Hillary made good effort in trying to win. How Barack spends the donations to win the election is his business and I support him and trust his judgement like I will when he becomes President of the United States. Now is the time for all of us to show our trust in a President Obama without second guessing him on unimportant things like whether Hillary gets help from his campaign. I want him to tell the U.S. and the world how he is going to plan to make things better for all of us.

I think this is a flawed question, becaue Obama would NEVER run 20 million into debt.

Why do we constantly go back to color? This is soooo irritating.

It is not uncommon for candidates to pay of the debt of a rival. We need to focus on real issues.....I'm proud of Hillary for getting together with her party and towing the line. That is what is important.

To answer the original question of this thread......who knows, who cares, it's not relevant to even ponder a scenario that won't occour.

Hpoefully I am the last to answer this question and people turn their attention to more important issues facing the USA and the world..............

I think this is the kind of topic the righties would have a field day with. That said, yeah, I think Hillary would have helped him out. I think both the media and the public were blinded by the intensity of the campaigns and took it as real animosity. Early on, Hillary said she would support Obama if she lost and she's kept that promise. I can't help but think she would have helped him out if the situation had been reversed, though I'm not going to speculate as to what extent and I don't think that's necessary. We're all Democrats at the end of the day. And we don't want McSame or four more years of Republican bullshit. Anyone who can't see through that shouldn't call themselves a true Dem.

If an African American candidate ran out of money and racked up the kind of debts HRC has, we'd never hear the end of how bad we are with finances, ceaseless lectures on how we don't know the value of money, and above all - the many forms of I-told-you-so..

Because in this country, color NEVER goes away.

Barack and Michelle wrote separate checks to HRC (one each one) That shows what a great candidate we have, whatever happened in the primaries is all forgotten. This thread is just soooo tacky

Debt relief for rivals isn't uncommon, I don't think

Hilliary ran a grimey race, no doubt, but she was good yesterday

she reminded me of why I've voted for her. for Senator

it's time to move on

Yea, there are other pressing issues. That lying Bush brought up faith based (welfare) iniatives today. The Auditors would have to tell me if we can add those programs to Bush's Legacy. I think they were born of politics too.

The thing is, there are thousands of Obama donors that cannot contribute anymore to his campaign, they have maxed out. Just like HRC's donors, they have maxed their alloted limit of donations.

But if HRC donors give to Obama, and Obamas maxed donors give to HRC, Obama winds up with more money than he would have had in the end. So it makes a lot of sense, give HRC donors a reason to donate to Obama by showing good will. HRC needs about a thousand maxed donations from Obama to even her checkbook out, after the book is balanced she needs nothing more.

But Obama can certainly expect to see well more than a thousand maxed donors from Clintons camp, try ten thousand or even more. HRC probably raised a half billion dollars in donations, and her donors were of the larger types.

Obama isn't a fool, he will probably reap a cool 100 million dollar profit off the endeavor and make himself look good as a byproduct.

Let the HRC hatred go, people. She ran a decent campaign, she lost, and is now showing class and dignity and bringing her donors to the Obama fold, this is a good thing.

Did the math wrong, HRC needs 10,000 donors from Obama to reach 23 million dollars, still a small amount compared to the 1.5 million donors he has, though. HRC's donors will more than cover this.

I understand what you are saying, Carmen. My main issue is that there are so many other things that need to be discussed. I have been listening to Obama's latest book (on CD -- I am writing a dissertation, reading Barbara Walter's new book...and trying to clean house...not enough time)....anyways...I digress. I really like some of the points he makes in regard to color and race issues. I think it is chapter 2 or 3 in which he states that we need to look at some issues as "colorless". For example, unemployment (or underemployment for that matter) is just as important to a "white person" as it is to a person of color. Children's issues -- same idea. I think he has some very valid points. I hate "muddying the waters" by posing and spending time on frivolous questions.

Quite honestly..I don't care who pays who money .. or whether they do at all. Quite simply, I want change.

Another "I hate Hillary" thread. Give it a rest already, Obama won and the primary is over. I beleieve a lot of you Obama supporters ONLY wanted to beat Hillary. Now that you have, you can't seem to focus on who the real enemy is. WAKE UP PLEASE!!!!!

your posts make it seem like you are livid against Obama, and that you don't like Hillary either.

That leaves McCain for you to support in this election.

That seems to make you the enemy, a loud Obama-bashing mouthpiece who is undoubtedly in the pockets of the GOP.

See? I've woken up.

Stop yelling. Cripes.

That cat is a major buzz-kill.