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djtangman
My head says "yes" -- it's smart politics.

However, my heart and the other half of my head says "NO"!!! She ran up that debt long after she should have conceeded, so it's her problem. Why didn't her supporters kick in just like we always have and will continue to for Barack? You guys wanted her to stay, now pay the piper and stop expecting us/Barack to bail you/her out.

However, if it will help heal the riff, I contributed $100 yesterday. I already gave her $100 last fall (when I was a Hillary supporter). I also gave another $100 to the DNC (c'mon Howard, get busy!) But, I'm saving the rest for Barack after August.

"Real" public financing is fantastic! If you haven't got any money, maybe that should tell you something...
jkun17
Listen to your head. Your head is usually right on these things.
plodder
Her and Hubby still have $100 mill plus ahe has a job. That's the life of politics ...........

If you want obama to win donate to him no matter what amount and include a note on any dissapointments you may have with him ...............
LilaTheGreat

answer... NOPE! Hi Bye...
AboutBreath
My answer is NO. Would the Clinton's pay off 'your' debt if you ask them?? It['s fair that they ask us to pay off 'their' debt, but for many who are fighting debts and poverty themselves it's fair for us to just say "NO"!
GCurry
If you have contributed to Obama's campaign, none of that contribution will go to repaying Clinton's debt.
Any opportunity for further contribution to Clinton's debt will be marked as such.
Each person must decide for themselves whether they want to contribute or not. There aren't any wrong answers.
What other people do is up to them. There aren't any wrong answers.

That about settles it for me.
Dan-From-LA
No. The Clintons have millions. They mismanaged their campaign by hiring expen$ive DC consultants and lobbyists whom they now need to pay off. No. No again. And triple no on that.
ATL404
I don't think we should, but I think it was very noble that Barack and Michelle themselves wrote checks to help pay Clinton's debt. I don't think they want to use our money for that. The Obama camp is asking the big donors to help, not us ( we are the 10, 15, 20 dollars donors)
CWV

Why, so maybe Bill won't require Barack to kiss his ass for support?

She won't be getting any of my hard earned dollars.
LakeEffect2
The Clintons have a bunch of rich friends and supporters that could easily donate to her debt payoff.
Good friend Babs could have another one of her famous garage sales in support of Hillary's debt.

I didn't ask her to run for pres.
Stoon
If you want to, go ahead. If you don't, don't. Just do whatever and keep quiet about it, imho. I'm tired of talking about it.

<----Didn't get enough sleep last night.
rottmom
When they show up on my doorstep to help me pay off my VISA, the loan I had to take out for a new roof, the second mortgage I have on my home so I can pay vet bills, get needed work done on the house so the city doesn't fine me, etc, then I'll consider helping her out with her expenditures on a campaign she should have dropped out of 6 months before she finally dropped out of.

Until then, they can afford it a hell of a lot more than I can afford it, and if I can't afford it, I know most other Americans can't afford it because I'm actually doing good compared to 85% of the nation.
bushwa
QUOTE (plodder @ Jun 28 2008, 11:14 AM) *
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If you want obama to win donate to him no matter what amount and include a note on any dissapointments you may have with him ...............



That's a great point. I'd hate if a single dollar that COULD go to Obama instead went to Hillary's debt retirement. I'm prepared to leave it to those who have the funds to give the limit to both. For the small-timers like me, whatever is available to help a candidate has to go to Obama.

Dessalines
QUOTE (bushwa @ Jun 29 2008, 01:44 PM) *
That's a great point. I'd hate if a single dollar that COULD go to Obama instead went to Hillary's debt retirement. I'm prepared to leave it to those who have the funds to give the limit to both. For the small-timers like me, whatever is available to help a candidate has to go to Obama.


My understanding was that Obama was only asking some of the larger donors to bundle bigger dollars on behalf of Hillary's vendors and not her personal loan. I am not sure which news outlet I heard it on, I will have to look it up.
Dessalines
QUOTE (rottmom @ Jun 29 2008, 01:30 PM) *
When they show up on my doorstep to help me pay off my VISA, the loan I had to take out for a new roof, the second mortgage I have on my home so I can pay vet bills, get needed work done on the house so the city doesn't fine me, etc, then I'll consider helping her out with her expenditures on a campaign she should have dropped out of 6 months before she finally dropped out of.

Until then, they can afford it a hell of a lot more than I can afford it, and if I can't afford it, I know most other Americans can't afford it because I'm actually doing good compared to 85% of the nation.


This is my understanding of the situation.


Obama Asks Donors To Help Hillary Pay Off Her Debts
By Eric Kleefeld - June 24, 2008, 10:57PM

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One point of clarification: The Obama camp's help extends only to the vendor debts, but not the more than $10 million in personal debt from Hillary's own self-financing loans. Clinton herself has told her own donors that while she needs help paying off vendors, she is not asking for help paying off the money the campaign owes her personally.


TPM
rottmom
QUOTE (Dessalines @ Jun 29 2008, 02:01 PM) *
This is my understanding of the situation.


Obama Asks Donors To Help Hillary Pay Off Her Debts
By Eric Kleefeld - June 24, 2008, 10:57PM


Oh I understand that Obama is playing along with it, but that doesn't mean I am.

TPM

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