justiceforall
Jul 2 2008, 11:41 AM
a NATIONWIDE GENERAL STRIKE is needed to end the war in Iraq and prevent an attack on Iran. There is no other option at this point. Marching and protesting on Sundays on Main Street or at the local park does nothing. The administration is indifferent to the will of the people. Plans are being drawn up to bomb Iran and covert operations are, and have been ongoing inside that country by the US military. 70% of the citizenry is against the war in Iraq yet it goes on and continues to get full funding.
And also, the middle class and working classes of this country are very upset about gas prices and food prices. People are ready to act.
Americans, get out of your cars and walk or bike. Stop using credit cards. End all non-essential travel and shopping. Demand an end to war in Iraq and halt plans for the bombing of Iran.
And if you are willing, start camping out in front of the local federal building. Take your vacation days and sick days from work and head downtown to the fed building and pitch your tent. This is what they did and do in Europe and it works. Bring your guitar, your habachi, your accordion, and spend the family vacation at the Federal Building or even the local CIA headquarters if you happen to live in Langley, VA, whatever venue looks appropriate.
Alildotonearth
Jul 2 2008, 12:09 PM
QUOTE (justiceforall @ Jul 2 2008, 12:25 PM)

a NATIONWIDE GENERAL STRIKE is needed to end the war in Iraq and prevent an attack on Iran. There is no other option at this point. Marching and protesting on Sundays on Main Street or at the local park does nothing. The administration is indifferent to the will of the people. Plans are being drawn up to bomb Iran and covert operations are, and have been ongoing inside that country by the US military. 70% of the citizenry is against the war in Iraq yet it goes on and continues to get full funding.
I typed this about 2 weeks ago but I will type it again. During the last Recession truck drivers, union and independents together, slowed down all traffic on interstate highways in protest of fuel costs.
And I will be more specific this time that there are assets available like Civil Rights Protesters who have the experience in organized protests, a right of Americans and Iraqis alike now. Some day, these organizers will have to stand up for all Americans, if not now when ?
Boycotting gasolene purchases for one or several days has been suggested by leading celebs of the MSM for over a year now. Hey I don't care. Maybe it is my turn to sit on my front porch smoking weed with my Biotch Lassey now, just kind of watching the entire country going to pot. A Lameduck President emeshed with the Oil industry as well as a Lameduck Congress too occupied with themselves will help ? They have not intervened to date have they, no fuckin duh.
A general strike? That sounds so European. So Socialist International. I think it's a great idea but i can't picture that many Americans getting on board with it. Maybe times are bad enough and people are pissed off enough that I'll be proved wrong though. I hope so. I'll be there.
LibLaw
Jul 2 2008, 12:29 PM
I love it if you could get everyone to do it.
RandiLover
Jul 2 2008, 12:34 PM
It would work, the problem is getting everyone involved. The masses getting together is what the dumbing down of America is all about. If they are too stupid to realize there are more of us then them, it will never happen.
justiceforall
Jul 2 2008, 01:25 PM
QUOTE (LibLaw @ Jul 2 2008, 10:13 AM)

I love it if you could get everyone to do it.
Me? No, we.
We. We.spread the word. I sent this note to get some momentum going. If you like what I wrote, copy and past it to an email to every peact action group you know; United for Peace,
http://www.unitedforpeace.org/,
list:
http://www.peace-action.org/gen/friends.html QUOTE
It would work, the problem is getting everyone involved. The masses getting together is what the dumbing down of America is all about. If they are too stupid to realize there are more of us then them, it will never happen.
apathy
“The death of democracy is not likely to be an assassination from ambush. It will be a slow extinction from apathy, indifference, and undernourishment.”
Robert M. Hutchins
"Livin up yourself." Bob Marley
DonShafer
Jul 2 2008, 02:21 PM
My father who was a staunch Union man, always advocated a nationwide strike for the day after Labor Day. And maybe in the mid to late 70's, it may have worked, but now we are too divided as a country. The Repuklikans have done a masterful job of dividing and conquering us. They have workers that actually continue to espouse the concept that the real reason businesses are leaving the country is because of American labor. We have a President that continues to tell us that we need illegal aliens to do jobs that Americans won't do.
justiceforall
Jul 2 2008, 03:15 PM
QUOTE (DonShafer @ Jul 2 2008, 12:05 PM)

My father who was a staunch Union man, always advocated a nationwide strike for the day after Labor Day. And maybe in the mid to late 70's, it may have worked, but now we are too divided as a country. The Repuklikans have done a masterful job of dividing and conquering us. They have workers that actually continue to espouse the concept that the real reason businesses are leaving the country is because of American labor. We have a President that continues to tell us that we need illegal aliens to do jobs that Americans won't do.
Let's get this into perseptive. In the 1920s everybody was living the high life, big cars, nice clothes, flapper girls, then boom, the crash. Hoover said live with it, this is the natural course of things, up and down. But eventually the people had had enough, and as a result of labor union strikes, the great veterans marchs, and various other confrontations with the government which actually became a serious threat to the capitalist world, FDR initiated the New Deal, reforms like social security, WPA, bank regulations, NLRA, ...
My point is that a country of spoiled self-indulgent over-weight numb-skulls can be quickly converted into a significant force for change when their stomachs are empty and their cars are out of gas.
Kathleen
Jul 2 2008, 03:38 PM
We did it in the 60's and early 70's, during the Viet Nam War....why can't we do it again? It is summer-time, we should be having Free Concerts and huge events...where are our Musicians? They have always been the ones who wrote and sung the songs of freedom that inspired the masses. If the younger ones can't do it, maybe we should get some of the boomer guys to come put of retirement and do a gig or two...what do ya think?
TapDuncan
Jul 2 2008, 03:51 PM
Most Americans are too cumfy cozy to care about where our country is at, it seems only those that own companies really know. Or maybe those that have 401k's. to really rile up the sheeple, you have to hit them where it hurts, and apparently it's not the wallet anymore. So where is it? When we can find the 'G' spot for Americans, then we will have a backlash. Until then, suffer away, and thank yourself for not standing up to the Government. Oh, and big oil, and the cor-cor-cor-prations.
jenz
Jul 2 2008, 03:51 PM
QUOTE (justiceforall @ Jul 2 2008, 12:25 PM)

a NATIONWIDE GENERAL STRIKE is needed to end the war in Iraq and prevent an attack on Iran. There is no other option at this point. Marching and protesting on Sundays on Main Street or at the local park does nothing. The administration is indifferent to the will of the people. Plans are being drawn up to bomb Iran and covert operations are, and have been ongoing inside that country by the US military. 70% of the citizenry is against the war in Iraq yet it goes on and continues to get full funding.
And also, the middle class and working classes of this country are very upset about gas prices and food prices. People are ready to act.
Americans, get out of your cars and walk or bike. Stop using credit cards. End all non-essential travel and shopping. Demand an end to war in Iraq and halt plans for the bombing of Iran.
And if you are willing, start camping out in front of the local federal building. Take your vacation days and sick days from work and head downtown to the fed building and pitch your tent. This is what they did and do in Europe and it works. Bring your guitar, your habachi, your accordion, and spend the family vacation at the Federal Building or even the local CIA headquarters if you happen to live in Langley, VA, whatever venue looks appropriate.
Great idea...I've thought about this for a long time now. The 70%..we need to unite somehow. I'm not that computer literate, enough to read, post, get around some the general stuff. What about a national website for this? Huge , giant , peacefull, protests....just an idea...
gydyup
Jul 2 2008, 04:30 PM
QUOTE (jenz @ Jul 2 2008, 03:35 PM)

What about a national website for this? Huge , giant , peacefull, protests....just an idea...
I think it's a great idea.
Alildotonearth
Jul 2 2008, 05:17 PM
QUOTE (LibLaw @ Jul 2 2008, 01:13 PM)

I love it if you could get everyone to do it.
Wallstreet went into a Bear Market today. GM stock fell below 10 dollars. Average price of gasolene hit a new record. Truck drivers are trying to conserve energy by slowing down on their own. In the midst of all this chaos at home, the sable rattling through failed foreign policy continues to drive up fuel costs. What does any of this have to do with Protectionism, everything.
Protectionism is also an overused political term in the MSM which barely explains free market economies let alone in a time of recession. The MSM loves catch words like "Protectionism" just as much as politicians like to use those words over and over again. Now McCain is opted for a Rove Clone for day to day operations. I expect more meaningless rhetoric in the days to come but propaganda is the Rove style, the cloning of the masses. Charactor assissination is just as important as image is over substance.
I don't know what to expect but in a populus movement, the people tell the story. McCain telling a laid off worker from Detroit something to the effect of "I feel your pain" and then moving off to South America with charges of Protectionism is UNPRESIDENTED to me. More unexpected to fireworks to come on the Fourth of July, I can assure you.
Bush has become the Shah of America, torturing Arabs for American Oil Companies and Iranians know that deal too well. Like a cokehead, he has just got to push everything to extremes ending up in up in a ditch like North Korea setting off a large something which created extreme pressure on the Asian world.
justiceforall
Jul 2 2008, 05:30 PM
QUOTE (Kathleen @ Jul 2 2008, 01:22 PM)

We did it in the 60's and early 70's, during the Viet Nam War....why can't we do it again? It is summer-time, we should be having Free Concerts and huge events...where are our Musicians? They have always been the ones who wrote and sung the songs of freedom that inspired the masses. If the younger ones can't do it, maybe we should get some of the boomer guys to come put of retirement and do a gig or two...what do ya think?
QUOTE
What about a national website for this? Huge , giant , peacefull, protests....just an idea...
OK everybody, try to understand, I'm talking a Nationwide General Strike here, and camp-ins at federal facilities. This is not just a march on Sunday or a free concert...this is a major step up because the marches don't work, the concerts are fun but they don't do the job, not impacting the people we need to impact....
pestone
Jul 2 2008, 05:44 PM
I think it's an excellent idea, but for many of the reasons others have already chimed in on, IMO nothing will happen until a huge amount of Americans HAVE NOTHING LEFT TO LOSE.
Kathleen
Jul 2 2008, 06:36 PM
Ok, if the "Organizers" planned an event for say, 8-8-08 (DVR the Olympics) and Nationwide had Free Concerts, with big names that draw crowds, such as Springsteen, Buffalo Springfield and CSNY, all in different locations, once the people are out, and energized, much will happen, just like Woodstock and the Monterey Pop Festival did....those events got people out and got them energized. People always need a "Hook" to get them oing, and Music usually works!
The event itself won't do it, but getting the message to all those who attend will resonate..........get people talking and thinking, and playing their tunes....even if we have to revive some of the oldies that got us though those times.
justiceforall
Jul 2 2008, 06:37 PM
QUOTE (pestone @ Jul 2 2008, 03:28 PM)

I think it's an excellent idea, but for many of the reasons others have already chimed in on, IMO nothing will happen until a huge amount of Americans HAVE NOTHING LEFT TO LOSE.
I gather from these type of responses that most of you are going to kick back and wait for the food riots to start happening. Well, that may be easier for now and definitely less frustrating than trying to get something started earlier, it may not be the best approach especially when you look out your window and see your neighborhood on fire and National Guard troops setting up their positions to shoot you down if you try to swipe anything. At that point it is too late to make any kind of positive change. Martial law while have taken over.
Better to get something going now. Believe me, there are plenty of people ready to act now, and most social movements involve a small percentage of the population, less than 5% in fact.
Kathleen
Jul 2 2008, 06:44 PM
Venues with great public transportation is a must!! for example where I live, the Amtrak train leave you off at the Ventura Country Fairgrounds...great Venue, and easy access, that in self makes a statement...no car, no parking!
QUOTE (justiceforall @ Jul 2 2008, 11:25 AM)

a NATIONWIDE GENERAL STRIKE is needed to end the war in Iraq and prevent an attack on Iran. There is no other option at this point. Marching and protesting on Sundays on Main Street or at the local park does nothing. The administration is indifferent to the will of the people. Plans are being drawn up to bomb Iran and covert operations are, and have been ongoing inside that country by the US military. 70% of the citizenry is against the war in Iraq yet it goes on and continues to get full funding.
And also, the middle class and working classes of this country are very upset about gas prices and food prices. People are ready to act.
Americans, get out of your cars and walk or bike. Stop using credit cards. End all non-essential travel and shopping. Demand an end to war in Iraq and halt plans for the bombing of Iran.
And if you are willing, start camping out in front of the local federal building. Take your vacation days and sick days from work and head downtown to the fed building and pitch your tent. This is what they did and do in Europe and it works. Bring your guitar, your habachi, your accordion, and spend the family vacation at the Federal Building or even the local CIA headquarters if you happen to live in Langley, VA, whatever venue looks appropriate.
I'm assuming you are already doing exactly what you advocate, for your country.
justiceforall
Jul 3 2008, 10:04 AM
You heard it here first: a NATIONWIDE GENERAL STRIKE will begin across all fifty states beginning on
AUGUST 1ST
Stop all purchases of non-essential items, especially gasoline. Do not use any credit cards.
Moto:
Get your culo out of your Coup deVille.
Bring your tent down to the local Federal Building and start your community tent city protest against the War in Iraq. The War in Iraq is a major cause of high oil prices as it is destablizing the Middle East.
justiceforall
Jul 6 2008, 12:02 PM
Spread the word, people. End the War in Iraq. Start closing the 700 plus foreign US miliary bases.
AboutBreath
Jul 6 2008, 12:08 PM
That's what is needed, but in reality, good luck with the unity thing. We have collectively lost our backbones in exchange for cable tv and all those funky idol shows.
plodder
Jul 6 2008, 01:07 PM
justiceforall
Jul 7 2008, 11:40 AM
QUOTE (AboutBreath @ Jul 6 2008, 09:52 AM)

That's what is needed, but in reality, good luck with the unity thing. We have collectively lost our backbones in exchange for cable tv and all those funky idol shows.
If all you cynics would put a few minutes into promoting this instead of composing defeatist messages, we might actually get somewhere.
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