Then consider yourself introduced.

BTW, I'll skip the suicide bombings, because it's never certain whether or not they targeted children or children just happened to be present.

Here's two from the 1970s.

Avvim School Bus Massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avivim_school_bus_massacre

The Avivim school bus massacre was a terrorist attack that took place in Israel on May 8, 1970 near Moshav Avivim on the border with Lebanon. Palestinian gunmen from the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) attacked the town's school bus, killing twelve people, mostly children.

Ma'alot Massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maalot_massacre

The Ma'alot massacre was an attack, carried out in Ma'alot, Israel by members of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, that occurred on May 15, 1974, the 26th anniversary of Israeli independence. In this massacre members of the DFLP murdered 22 religious high school students from the city of Safed.

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BTW, hard to argue these were not deliberately targetting children, when the targets are a school or a school bus.

But, you may want stuff that's more recent ... so here you go. Since 2001.

http://www.take-a-pen.org/english/Articles/Art04102003.htm

Jan 17, 2001 - Ofir Rahum, 16, of Ashkelon, traveled to Jerusalem to meet a young woman with whom he had conducted a relationship over the Internet. She then drove him toward Ramallah. At a prearranged location, another vehicle drove up and three Palestinian gunmen inside shot Rahum more than 15 times. One terrorist drove off with Rahum's body and dumped it, while the others fled in the second vehicle.

Mar 26, 2001 - Shalhevet Pass, age 10 months, was killed by sniper fire at the entrance to the Avraham Avinu neighborhood in Hebron. (OK. Tough case here. I guess one could argue they were trying to kill the parent, but they were holding the child.)

May 9, 2001 - Yossi Ish-Ran, 14, and Kobi Mandell, 14, both of Tekoa, were found stoned to death in a cave about 200 meters from the small community south of Jerusalem where they lived.

June 11, 2001 - Yehuda Shoham, aged 5 months, of Shilo, died of injuries incurred in a fatal stoning on June 5. He was critically injured by a rock thrown at the family's car near Shilo in Samaria.

(BTW, no offense, but I love it when people say the Palestinians are "only" using rocks when the Israelis have guns, as if a thrown rock can't kill.)

July 26, 2001 - Ronen Landau, 17, of Givat Ze'ev, was shot and killed by Palestinian terrorists while returning home from Jerusalem with his father.

Aug 9, 2001 - Aliza Malka, 17, a boarding student at Kibbutz Merav, was killed by terrorists in a drive-by shooting at the entrance to the kibbutz in the Gilboa region

Mar 12, 2002 Atara Livne, 15, of Kibbutz Hanita was killed when two terrorists opened fire from an ambush on Israeli vehicles.

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I think you get the picture.

Hopefully.

it is interesting to note that while the Arabs/Moslems celebrate the killing of children and reward those who succeed, the Israelli government investigates and prosecutes those who act out of the norm for humane behavior. At least according to the links posted by AboutBreath. That is a difference in behavior that no amount of anti-Israeli propaganda can disguise.

For the record, I oppose the murder of ALL children.

In answer to your question, Seeker, I think it's because the Israelis have traditionally been considered "the good guys", by most of us Americans, that make these stories so startling. Yes, we need to see pictures of atrocities on both sides, not so much to blame either side, or to absolve either side of guilt, but rather to inspire us to rededicate ourselves to a meaningful peace process.

No innocent people should die needlessly, especially children. This madness must stop.

Peace.

What you don't understand is that determining whether the incident actually happened is just as important, if not more so, than expressing moral outrage over it. In fact, you have to determine whether something is true before you can express moral outrage over it. That sounds pretty damned basic to me.

Hell, I can pull a source out of my ass and say, "Oooh a Palestinian ripped the genitals off of an Israeli baby!!! How horrible!!!" In that case, it would not be wrong of you to question my source - questioning the source would be critical to the discussion.

In the case of this thread, you haven't provided a credible source that proves Israelis actually did the thing that you accuse them of doing. If they did it, then fine, express all of the moral outrage you want. If they didn't do it, then what do you have to express moral outrage over?

I really think that at this point we're running around in circles insulting each other, and it's time for this thread to end.

I think that Obama has put together a good team for making a real effort at it (as opposed to the Bush admin's sham effort).

So, as always, we'll have to see.

Yes, I believe he will sincerely seek peace.

I could dig deeper for reports of 'things' the IDF has done to children since the 1970s, but it wasn't my objective for this thread to burry it under a history of long ago abuses. I already had felt assured that there's been abuses from both sides as I believe discussion about this has already taken place in this thread. I do appreciate your contribution and it really goes without saying, but I'll say it again. It's truly a shame that any of this abuse has happened to all children. I suppose that by now, I would think that as much as this has been exposed in just the few recent years that better conduct by soldiers would be in place by now. It's clearly not. Since it's not, my interest to report such ongoing incidents as they turn up continues.

I wonder if JSTREET has looked into these matters??

There's been creditable enough sources provided. We've agreed that we're not going to agree on this subject. You're only here to disrupt the progress of this thread. Your cries for this to end only begs for you to find another hobby in this message board.... and something more in the lines of being respectable of other's threads. You're particpation here is unwelcomed.

I used to think he would, but I'm very concerned about his plans to beef up forces in Afghan and also push into Pak. If that happens, will this not create more unstability in the Middle East and something that may lead to war with the Hamas as well???

Terrible to say the least and to think the U.S.A. is right in the heart and sole of this savage action with its imperialistic ways. I wonder how many children we americans killed in Iraq and Afghanistan with just the shock and awe and bombing.

Not sure. Obama was my third choice for president. He's not perfect and not liberal enough for me. But I do trust his judgment and motives on these issues more than McCain's. I am concerned about some of the advice he is getting on foreign policy, especially with regard to Susan Rice. Yet I trust he will change direction when and if he sees he has it wrong. That's more than we can say about most presidents we've seen.

I agree. It really upsets me that virtually no one mentions the Iraqis we've killed and maimed when discussing the costs of the war. Mostly we just hear about AMERICAN casualites and the money lost. Where are all those fetus lovers when actual, living breathing children are murdered in cold blood? What kind of country kills innocent people, especially children, and never thinks or talks about it?

That is an excellent point to bring up. I always wondered where was the great compassion that our churches always spew week after week when King Georgie decided to start false wars? Now, we witness disgusting abuse and murder to children by the hands of those we hold with high esteem in our eyes, yet not a peep of any wrongdoing for that. Not until someone like the few of us who start a thread to expose it does it draw mostly complaints against such exposure rather than recognizing the horror of such events. Ignorance and self hypocrisy drives those 'fetus lovers' who turn their heads away from these horrible acts against humans.

Can you imagine the civilians that were killed by bombs dropped by U.S. planes just in the invasion of Iraq and the invasion of Afghanistan. The planes have not stopped the bombing in either U.S. occupied country. I really do not know how those pilots of those planes that drop bombs and kill civilians can sleep at night. They have to know they are killing and injuring innocent civilians.
Casualties in Afghanistan and Iraq
http://www.unknownnews.net/casualties.html

Very disturbing