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bushwa
I've seen The Real McCain" 1 and 2 posted here on several threads, but never came across this Jan. '08 production from Brave NewFilms and Robert Greenwald before now.

JOHN McCAIN IS DR. STRANGELOVE
Forgive me if I missed a previous posting of it.

If you have seen it, then you can instead take a look at this, a delightful mash-up of John McCain with Miss Teen USA South Carolina.
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And....Grampy McSame is also a Gigantic Hypocrite as well -

He says that " Patriotism is deeper than its symbolic expressions than sentiments about
place and kinship that move us to hold our hands over our hearts during the national anthem.
Its about putting the country first before Party...."

DOH ! - That goes against everything he(and W) stand for and that his "platform" is about !!

Uh - symbolic like a freakin Flag lapel pin Sen Obama didnt wear or how he was pictured not placing his
hand over his heart during the Pledge ???? So then what was all the hoopla about ?? BS !!!!!

And if we want out of AmerIraq now and soon, why does he always Criticize us and anyone
including repugs who agree? We ARE THERE for a damn Party (the bush regime or the 5th Reicht)
and in spite of thousands who now know they LIED to get us in there, so wtf.gif

IF: but not by Rudyard Kipling
If you can keep your head while all around you are losing theirs and blaming it on you -
you will be a Democrat my son

IF: JEB was not elected Gov of FLA then we would not be going to hell in a handbasket right now... Karl
Rove had not sent Roger Stone to Miami in 2000 we would not be here right now. They had not bought
off Dragon Lady Harris we would not be here right now. IF they had not somehow cooerced the ballot
maker in Palm Beach to make those damn incorrect ballots so 75,000 people hadnt voted for Pat Buchanan
instead of Al Gore.....u get the picture - it makes me want to cry




http://www.parade.com/articles/editions/20...triotism_McCain


"Fake It"
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Ed-Kay
McCain's new campaign poster should be him with his foot firmly planted in his mouth.
IVEATCH
Comparing Senator McCain's comments on Iraq to a 1960s movie satire about nuclear obliteration isn't fair and smacks of Apples and Oranges.

It's an attempt to paint Senator McCain as a Warmonger. Which is rather odd given his history as a POW who was held longer than most active U.S. wars last.

His (McCain's) statement about other wars is sadly true. If you don't think so, then take a look at this statement ...............

If Senator Barack Obama is elected President, the United States will never be involved in another military action or conflict while he is President.

No one, not even Senator Obama himself, could give such a promise.

Best Regards,

Randys
QUOTE (IVEATCH @ Jul 9 2008, 07:17 AM) *
If Senator Barack Obama is elected President, the United States will never be involved in another military action or conflict while he is President.


Best Regards,

are you making this statement as an exaggeration or if not may I have a link to who did?
wait, now i get it...i know what you are doing

by the way, many of us believe it is possible to exist without being a war, not likely maybe, but possible...

regardless, mccain is the wrong choice at the wrong time
bushwa
QUOTE (IVEATCH @ Jul 9 2008, 07:17 AM) *
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It's an attempt to paint Senator McCain as a Warmonger. Which is rather odd given his history as a POW who was held longer than most active U.S. wars last....



A great many votes cast by Sen. McCain are "rather odd given his history as a POW..." to say nothing of odd when compared to assorted views he's espoused.

But you are incorrect to attribute responsibility for this to me, when it is in fact McCain's own choices and words that conflict.
bushwa
QUOTE (IVEATCH @ Jul 9 2008, 07:17 AM) *
... take a look at this statement ...............

If Senator Barack Obama is elected President, the United States will never be involved in another military action or conflict while he is President.

No one, not even Senator Obama himself, could give such a promise.

Best Regards,



I don't think many are asserting that case. Rather, an accurate and fair version might read,

If Senator Barack Obama is elected President, the United States will never while he is President be involved in another military action or conflict that is publicly premised upon information and claims known to be, at best highly suspect, and by the GWB standard, demonstrably false, activities apparently tied to otherwise wholly unrelated agendas.

e.g., Obama won't attempt to lead the country into believing he's invading a dangerous, threatening foreign nation to strike back at terrorists who attacked a US city, this while invading a nation virtually incapable of harming the US, one unrelated to the attack on US soil, and this while averting his gaze from "friendly" nations that DID play a role in the aforementioned attack.

It's like that, you see.
Randys
QUOTE (bushwa @ Jul 9 2008, 08:53 AM) *
I don't think many are asserting that case. Rather, an accurate and fair version might read,

If Senator Barack Obama is elected President, the United States will never while he is President be involved in another military action or conflict that is publicly premised upon information and claims known to be, at best highly suspect, and by the GWB standard, demonstrably false, activities apparently tied to otherwise wholly unrelated agendas.

e.g., Obama won't attempt to lead the country into believing he's invading a dangerous, threatening foreign nation to strike back at terrorists who attacked a US city, this while invading a nation virtually incapable of harming the US, one unrelated to the attack on US soil, and this while averting his gaze from "friendly" nations that DID play a role in the aforementioned attack.

It's like that, you see.

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and there it is
what is is
IVEATCH
QUOTE (bushwa @ Jul 9 2008, 11:45 AM) *
A great many votes cast by Sen. McCain are "rather odd given his history as a POW..." to say nothing of odd when compared to assorted views he's espoused.

But you are incorrect to attribute responsibility for this to me, when it is in fact McCain's own choices and words that conflict.


Sorry Bushwa, I should have been more clear. I was attributing the attempt to label Senator McCain a warmonger to the YouTube production. Not to you. A YouTube video that may well be illegally using clips from the movie, Dr. Strangelove, Or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb (1964). Maybe the current owners of the movie rights will sue YouTube's Butt over this?

Senate and House votes are soooo tough to pin down. This is true with any Senator/House Member voting record. They are rarely straight up or down votes. There are usually all sorts of Christmas tree ornament add ons to a bill that cause the objections. Therefore HR99999, the House bill to "Preserve the Dignity of Little Old Ladies" gets voted down because the adding of an Anti Abortion Bill to it makes it controversial. Whichever party is in the majority at the time are masters of forcing embarrasing votes on the minority party. It's the way of DC.

Odd votes are often times attributable to Odd bedfellow bills.

Best Regards,

bushwa
QUOTE (IVEATCH @ Jul 9 2008, 09:44 AM) *
Sorry Bushwa, I should have been more clear. I was attributing the attempt to label Senator McCain a warmonger to the YouTube production. Not to you. ...



Oh, please, I didn't take it THAT personally. I get MUCH more whiny and fiery when I'm on the defensive.

I just suspect you've taken the video far too literally, and I don't think the point of it is NOT that McCain says exactly what these loopy characters say. It's that their hypocrisy is the same. It's that the absence of substance and truth behind what they and McCain say is similar.
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