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LibLaw
This may seem like nothing to worry about now but lets not forget what Tom Delay did to Texas, with a Republican governor. They have shown they cannot be trusted so lets not take our eye's off them.


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The suggestion that the elections of 2010 could be as important as those in 2008 may seem like hyperbole or distraction from a Republican Party bracing for big losses. But Democratic officials are also smarting to the premise. One insider, who described the idea as a "pretty sad reflection of the Republican Party's state of affairs," nevertheless conceded that it was on everyone's radar.

Brian Namey, spokesman for the Democratic Governors Association described Democratic governors as "a formidable line of defense against Republicans who would like to Tom Delay us out of congressional seats."

An abundance of seats are in play. There will be 36 gubernatorial races in 2010, compared to 11 such elections this cycle. Of those 36, 19 are for state houses currently held by Democrats. And of those 19, ten will involve Democratic governors who won't be running for reelection (either because of term limits or retirement).

Because redistricting follows the 2010 census, each state will be reevaluating its congressional map in 2011. And in almost every one of these states, a tremendous amount of authority for this endeavor is placed in the governor's hands.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/07/g...i_n_110632.html
adamquestor
We'll never know. 2010 is the year the former US will break up like the former USSR.

4 trillion in unsecured debt, a rock-bottom dollar, and adjustable mortgages in their most profound adjustment without a social safety net.

Adios. Was fun while it lasted.

QBC
QUOTE (adamquestor @ Jul 7 2008, 08:07 PM) *
We'll never know. 2010 is the year the former US will break up like the former USSR.

4 trillion in unsecured debt, a rock-bottom dollar, and adjustable mortgages in their most profound adjustment without a social safety net.

Adios. Was fun while it lasted.


Beginning or end of 2010? I just want to be ready to gloat when 2010 comes and goes with the U.S. still in one piece.
adamquestor
Dude, too late to stop it. Read this week's Business Week on the mortgage free-fall for a better picture at how far south it's going. The real tell-tale sign is Dubai's separation from the dollar. The writing's on the wall.
MaryJaneBlue
QUOTE (adamquestor @ Jul 7 2008, 09:24 PM) *
Dude, too late to stop it. Read this week's Business Week on the mortgage free-fall for a better picture at how far south it's going. The real tell-tale sign is Dubai's separation from the dollar. The writing's on the wall.


Adam, is this the article? http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/conte...ue+with+readers
LibLaw
The article starts out by saying. wink.gif


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Republican officials now believe that the party's best hope for retaking seats in Congress may come during gubernatorial elections in 2010. Should the GOP win back the majority of these seats (Democrats currently occupy 28 state capitols), they would be extremely well positioned to influence the redistricting of the political map that will come after the 2010 census.

"The 2010 elections are almost as important or equally important as the elections this year. After redistricting in 2011, the governors are going to have a huge influence in determining the political makeup of this country," said Chris Schrimpf, a spokesman for the Republican Governors Association. "We could feasibly see 25 to 30 congressional seats swing as the result of redistricting. And the state legislatures and governor could determine that swing. Can the National Republican Congressional Committee make a statement like that with a straight face? It would be harder for them."
Alildotonearth
QUOTE (LibLaw @ Jul 8 2008, 01:56 AM) *
The article starts out by saying. wink.gif


The plan is that reality is reality so they will use something they are already using now, taxes. Taxes have to be raised otherwise we would be still be living in a self-destructive Utopia created through political illusion. Some day that federal deficit has to be paid down or downward pressure on the dollar will still continue for some time to come. Bankers are going to want to see those deficits reduced guess who they are ? Balanced Budget will not be effective unless the principle gets paid down because the interest is killing us now.

Here's the deal. Bush Adminstration made a huge capital investment for a hostile takeover of Iraq. There has been no return on investment to date. Interest is accuring while retooling is necessary after this five year mark. Oil contracts are going to foreign investors while Bush tried to crony one in. As this investment has lead to economic damage at home through recession, those liabilities are additionally compounded.

Now, what would a realworld corporation do ? What would a realworld corporation do with these obvious corporate flunkies ? I feel like an enron stockholder right now and the attitude is "So what".
LibLaw
QUOTE (Alildotonearth @ Jul 8 2008, 02:06 AM) *
The plan is that reality is reality so they will use something they are already using now, taxes. Taxes have to be raised otherwise we would be still be living in a self-destructive Utopia created through political illusion. Some day that federal deficit has to be paid down or downward pressure on the dollar will still continue for some time to come. Bankers are going to want to see those deficits reduced guess who they are ? Balanced Budget will not be effective unless the principle gets paid down because the interest is killing us now.

Here's the deal. Bush Adminstration made a huge capital investment for a hostile takeover of Iraq. There has been no return on investment to date. Interest is accuring while retooling is necessary after this five year mark. Oil contracts are going to foreign investors while Bush tried to crony one in. As this investment has lead to economic damage at home through recession, those liabilities are additionally compounded.

Now, what would a realworld corporation do ? What would a realworld corporation do with these obvious corporate flunkies ? I feel like an enron stockholder right now and the attitude is "So what".

I see your point and agree whole heartedly but I don't see how that has anything to do with the censure of 2010 and the GOP gerrymandering their district to regain seats lost in the 2008 election.
Alildotonearth
QUOTE (LibLaw @ Jul 8 2008, 02:14 AM) *
I see your point and agree whole heartedly but I don't see how that has anything to do with the censure of 2010 and the GOP gerrymandering their district to regain seats lost in the 2008 election.


Ok, well, I am stupid. Under the Commerce Department, the census is taken. Innumerators are trained as a temporary workforce. If there is an opportunity to interject politics it is right there. We are really talking about a temporary workforce of Civil servants. Now who will do the hiring of these people on a local level ? This is nuts and bolts stuff and they know the game pretty well.

Generally, one could imagine political corruption anywhere. I remember onetime Mueller under Ashcroft said violent crime was down by 60%. I did a little field study on a local level on that deal. Comes down to reports generated by DEA and FBI agents mainly on a local level. So if you get a low crime rating you move up on the list as a safe city which means a greater potential for incubation of businesses and stuff like that ?

I was confused looking at a game plan started today that Democrats are going to raise taxes. Could be true unless another Adult Child is elected as President. Really going to hammer that point at Midterm of 2010. But, demographics are changing. Attrition is affecting Senior voters. And I would not mention any of this in public except I am tired of the games, real tired. Tired enough to open a few cans of worms and whoop ass at the same time.

I would not be concerned as alot of Public Servants right now know how the game is played so check and balance can be inserted at appropriate levels. Since everyone knows what each other wants the map to look like in the year 2011, I guess the entire process will be easy to watch. Lumpy may be a devil but he sure is stupid too. Accountability is the name of the game and he is sure screwing the pooch. I think I am capable of changing reality too.
Alildotonearth
QUOTE (LibLaw @ Jul 8 2008, 02:14 AM) *
I see your point and agree whole heartedly but I don't see how that has anything to do with the censure of 2010 and the GOP gerrymandering their district to regain seats lost in the 2008 election.


Ok, well, I am stupid. Under the Commerce Department, the census is taken. Innumerators are trained as a temporary workforce. If there is an opportunity to interject politics it is right there. We are really talking about a temporary workforce of Civil servants. Now who will do the hiring of these people on a local level ? This is nuts and bolts stuff and they know the game pretty well.

Generally, one could imagine political corruption anywhere. I remember onetime Mueller under Ashcroft said violent crime was down by 60%. I did a little field study on a local level on that deal. Comes down to reports generated by DEA and FBI agents mainly on a local level. So if you get a low crime rating you move up on the list as a safe city which means a greater potential for incubation of businesses and stuff like that ?

I was confused looking at a game plan started today that Democrats are going to raise taxes. Could be true unless another Adult Child is elected as President. Really going to hammer that point at Midterm of 2010. But, demographics are changing. Attrition is affecting Senior voters. And I would not mention any of this in public except I am tired of the games, real tired. Tired enough to open a few cans of worms and whoop ass at the same time.

I would not be concerned as alot of Public Servants right now know how the game is played so check and balance can be inserted at appropriate levels. Since everyone knows what each other wants the map to look like in the year 2011, I guess the entire process will be easy to watch. Lumpy may be a devil but he sure is stupid too. Accountability is the name of the game and he is sure screwing the pooch. I think I am capable of changing reality too.
LibLaw
QUOTE (Alildotonearth @ Jul 8 2008, 04:08 AM) *
Ok, well, I am stupid. Under the Commerce Department, the census is taken. Innumerators are trained as a temporary workforce. If there is an opportunity to interject politics it is right there. We are really talking about a temporary workforce of Civil servants. Now who will do the hiring of these people on a local level ? This is nuts and bolts stuff and they know the game pretty well.

Generally, one could imagine political corruption anywhere. I remember onetime Mueller under Ashcroft said violent crime was down by 60%. I did a little field study on a local level on that deal. Comes down to reports generated by DEA and FBI agents mainly on a local level. So if you get a low crime rating you move up on the list as a safe city which means a greater potential for incubation of businesses and stuff like that ?

I was confused looking at a game plan started today that Democrats are going to raise taxes. Could be true unless another Adult Child is elected as President. Really going to hammer that point at Midterm of 2010. But, demographics are changing. Attrition is affecting Senior voters. And I would not mention any of this in public except I am tired of the games, real tired. Tired enough to open a few cans of worms and whoop ass at the same time.

I would not be concerned as alot of Public Servants right now know how the game is played so check and balance can be inserted at appropriate levels. Since everyone knows what each other wants the map to look like in the year 2011, I guess the entire process will be easy to watch. Lumpy may be a devil but he sure is stupid too. Accountability is the name of the game and he is sure screwing the pooch. I think I am capable of changing reality too.



Never hurts to be prepared, and no your not stupid. wink.gif
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