Heard it on Hartmann last night, the theory that this might explain a lot.

We all know the bush administration started spying on us before 911, that is clear.

We all know what Hoover was able to accomplish with his spying and blackmailing.

Knowing what we know about Rove and Siegelman, you cant put anything past this guy, he is a complete scumbag.

So, Congressman, you once visited "Lucy's House Of Massage", unless you want the whole world to know, cooperate.

I have no problem believing this could have happened. Could be happening right now.

I heard it on Hartmann, too, but I've suspected as much ever since the wiretapping issue arose. It is almost obvious and I have absolutely no doubt it is behind the Democrat inertia.

The blackmail evidence will work for the neo-Conservatives in the future just as well as it is working now unless every one of the Democrats who have voted with the Republicans or have failed to initiate or support aggressive action against BushCo are dumped in November.

Every one of them, beginning with Pelosi, Reid and Hoyer.

The following is a list of Democrat senators who voted with Republicans to pass the FISA bill that contained the immunity provision. Two of the names are especially interesting:


Evan Bayh (Indiana) [D]
Tom Carper (Delaware) [D]
Bob Casey (Pennsylvania) [D]
Kent Conrad (North Dakota) [D]
Dianne Feinstein (California) [D]
Daniel Inouye (Hawaii) [D]
Amy Klobuchar (Minnesota) [D]
Mary Landrieu (Louisiana) [D]
Blanche Lincoln (Arkansas) [D]
Claire McCaskill (Missouri) [D]
Barbara Mikulski (Maryland) [D]
Bill Nelson (Florida) [D]
Ben Nelson (Nebraska) [D]
Mark Pryor (Arkansas) [D]
Ken Salazar (Colorado) [D]
Jim Webb (Virginia) [D] <======


Democrat Senators Who Could Have Voted Against FISA Revision But Didn't:

Johnson (D-SD) No Vote
Murray (D-WA) No Vote
Boxer (D-CA) No Vote <======

Hope you all are watching the debate on Cspan 2 right now.

Feingold and Spectre have spoken, and now Rockefella. <----(spelling - have no idea how)

I really hope they will shelve this today ( because of on-going court cases?) and stall this president (no get out of jail card) and drive him bonkers by this stalling. But that's just me.

I agree as well. RR has proposed this as well and gone so far as to say she has hard evidence. Her stance has been that the leadership was told about FISA by the administration as a way of indirectly involving them in the crime and cover up. A very mafia type ploy.

I'm sure Jane Harmon and Pelosi and Rockefeller are running scared, especially since criminal proceedings can still be brought against the government and individuals.

Again, I think this is a mess that won't right itself until we have Obama in the WH a total purge of the government of these neo-con appointed staffers and department heads and clear cut majorities in both the House and Senate.

Eggie,

I can't watch CSpan due to work today. Please keep us informed on this thread concerning what happens!! Thanks. Love you as always!

Aha! I knew it! I've been saying for years that Bush must have naked pictures of most of the people in Congress!

I've wondered that for a while, especially about Colin Powell. How did he turn from a man of integrity to an accomplice in the destruction and occupation of Iraq? And he did not want to run for president because of what it would do to his family (hmmmm?) Bush & Company is nothing more than the mob bosses taking over the administration of our country. Rove is pure evil; no better than Capone.

THAT IS ABOUT THE ONLY THING i DISAGREE WITH HIM ON ....

I think media censorship and manipulation, coupled with Republican Congressional obstruction are more likely to be the culprits.

Bush loudly Booed at baseball game [1st pitch] ... youtube pulls video .....
http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/20080...ush_gets_booed/

Even Katie Couric.... chimed in on the media suppression [from the admin.
and network complicity - then NBC] after Scott McClellan released his book ...
http://news.google.com/nwshp?hl=en&tab...ic&ie=UTF-8

http://mediamatters.org/ and http://www.crooksandliars.com/
are full of daily "attacks on the facts ...."


How many times have the Democrats proposed withdrawl from Iraq; and been filibustered or blocked by cloture votes by the Republicans; since, John Murtha first proposed it in 2005.
????? ____


Republican obstruction historic level .... and media spin ....
http://www.bloggernews.net/18256
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/18218.html


the Reality and Facts :

1. The media is still owned and manipulted by a few, for their agendas ...
[did you see "Kucinich reads articles of impeachment" in BOLD headlines, yet ???] http://en....g/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine vetoed by Reagan.

the vast right-wing conspirators still:
"... view the media "through a funhouse mirror that renders everything-- even the facts themselves --as manifestations of insidious bias." http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php? title...Research_Center://http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.ph...Research_Center://http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.ph...Research_Center://http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.ph...Research_Center://http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.ph...Research_Center

2. All Democrats are not progressive ..... most states are moderate to right leaning and
there Dems. represent that ... because of media manipulation and local "beliefs" ...

3. Buy Parti$an-SHIP ... The wealthy individuals and businesses still manipulate congress [Congress persons have to raise a minimum of $2000 per day to get re-elected]
... can you/do you contribute enough to help counter that [corporate whoring]; to your local Dem. Senators and House Representatives ??? So they will represent you and not the corporates.

4. Repubilcan "obstruction" is at a Historic level .... Dems. do not have a closure, filibuster or veto-proof majority.

Record Breaking: Senate Conservatives Use Filibuster for 62nd Time in This Session of Congress
... http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb5554/ is_200712/ai_n21918553://http://findarticles.com/p/articles/...12/ai_n21918553://http://findarticles.com/p/articles/...12/ai_n21918553://http://findarticles.com/p/articles/...12/ai_n21918553://http://findarticles.com/p/articles/...12/ai_n21918553

5. Ignoring that Pelosi did also say
"wherever the investigations take us" ... on impeachment.

6. Democratic Congressional accomplishments .... since being sworn in in Jan. 2007
even with the historic fillibusters, closure and veto obstructions.
...
Strengthening American Competitiveness
Transparency, Accountability, and Ethics in _Washington
Better Pay for Working Americans
Homeland Security
Supporting, Honoring, and Caring for Our _Troops and Veterans
A Much-Needed New Strategy for Iraq
Protecting Middle-Class Taxpayers
Improving Water Infrastructure and Reforming ***** overrode Bush's veto *****
Corps of Engineers
Advancing Stem Cell Research
Rebuilding the Gulf Coast
more @ ... http://dpc.senate.gov/dpc-new.cfm?doc_name=fs- 110-1-80 http://majorityleader.house.gov/ docUploads...ntsJune2007.pdf://

<a href="http://majorityleader.house.gov/" target="_blank">http://majorityleader.house.gov/://http://majorityleader.house.gov/ do...ader.house.gov/ do...ntsJune2007.pdf://http://majorityleader.house.gov/ do...ntsJune2007.pdf://

http://majorityleader.house.gov/ do...ntsJune2007.pdf</a>

....


Latching onto Republican talking point, media report; "do-nothing Congress",
not GOP obstruction ........
http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/index...N&pid=54220


... never repeat right wing talking points to attack your own, ever. You never enter that echo chamber as a participant. Ever. You never give them a hammer to beat the left with. Just. Don't. Do. It
....
The pivot and attack technique demands reframing of Repub talking points. ............
Obama is off to a good start, he needs to do it a lot more. http://www.washblog.com/story/2008/5/11/231430/ 426


Polls still say 70%+ of the US want us out of Iraq .... but the Republicans in Congress with
the MSM are degrading the "Democrats as a do nothing congress ....." as they obstruct it !

I'll forgive them every transgression, just do the right thing NOW.

Pelosi Says House Judiciary May Hold Hearings On Kucinich Impeachment Resolution
By John Bresnahan Jul 10, 2008
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/10/...in4248168.shtml

Google OPERATION BROWNSTONE....gets you.......



"Stewart Webb alleges that an important key to the 'control' of the U.S. House and Senate has been the use of blackmail via 'Operation Brownstone,' led by individuals he calls CIA shadow government players ... setting up legislators for blackmail through child pedophilia rings using both vulnerable male and female children from orphanages all across the United States. This, according to scores of documents and witnesses..."



http://www.stewwebb.com

May 4, 2005

Ted Gunderson will the real Creature please stand up?

Strange twist in the Rusty Nelson hearing in Lincoln today.

By Stew Webb







Ted Gunderson fails to show as witness for Rusty Nelson in the Brownstone hearing.




Gunderson had given his word to Rusty Nelson that he would appear as a witness on Rusty's behalf.

Gunderson has been publicizing Nelson’s case claiming his support.

But Gunderson's failure to appear in court today tells another story.

Why did Ted Gunderson fail to show?

Was Gunderson afraid of being apprehended by law enforcement and are their warrants for Gunderson arrest for stalking and other crimes?

Rusty Nelson in now aware Gunderson has been using him in order to build Gunderson’s Credibility among those who think Gunderson is some good guy advocating for abused children, nothing could be further from the truth.

Gunderson’s was in charge of Blackmail of Government Officials abusing children in the Operation known as Brownstone.

This was the Bush Crime Family’s form of Blackmail, to get Congressman and Senators in their pockets.

Rusty Nelson was the photographer working for Republican Larry King who ran the Franklin Credit Union and worked with Ted Gunderson in the Blackmail of Congressman & Senators.

Operation Brownstone became known in 1989 and the stories appear in The Washington times.

Operation Brownstown was Congressman & Senators molesting children including George H. W. Bush.

Children were brought from Orphanages all across America, not just Omaha, Nebraska to tour the White House at Government expense, then a Limo was sent to pick up several of the children George H. W. Bush, John Sunno, Richard Cheney and other selected as their sex slaves for the evening.

The care takers were told a State Dinner was happening at the White House and Bush wanted the Children to attend.

The Children were picked up in a Limo drugged and sent to Senator Barney Franks Condo and other locations in Washington, D.C.

George H. W. Bush, Richard Cheney, John Sunno, James Baker and other had first molesting of the children.

Then they were passed to Congressman and Senators who did not know Rusty Nelson was taking their pictures so Bush could later Blackmail these Government Officials to do what Bush wanted, passing Bush’s legislation and blocking Congressional Investigations of The Bush Crimes against America, including Treason.



In 1992 former Nebraska State Senator John Decamp comes out with a book called The Franklin Cover-Up.

Why was Ted Gunderson, John Decamps investigator when Gunderson was running Operation Brownstone with CIA George Harold Pender?

Gunderson and Pender also ran Guns and Drugs at the Capizon Indian Reservation in Indio, California for Col. Ollie North’s and General John Singlaub’s Iran Contra operations which continue today.

Ted Gunderson’s former Drug Manufacturing partner from the Capizon Reservation CIA Michael Ricionsciuto has been in Prison since the early 1990s serving 24 years after being caught manufacturing Meth.

Gunderson received large amounts of cash from that narcotics manufacturing operations as stated by witnesses and investigators, yet Gunderson has never been arrested or charged yet for his involvement in Narcotics.

Who will Gunderson target next for The Bush Crime Family?

This year we have witnessed Gunderson Targets:



Ted Gunderson’s Murder for hire Scheme: The set up of Dave Hinkson.

(See: www.stewwebb.com Bushes Nazi Goons News)



Ted Gunderson’s Attempted set up of Rusty Nelson: April-may 2005 after Gunderson tried to Build his own reputation off the back of Rusty Nelson , by putting Rusty on various Radio Talk Shows.





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