Aad and Ron Dissel de Boo tell the story of how they once went to a conference in the USA to talk of their experiences in raising children. Before they spoke, a woman came up to them and told them forthrightly that she didn't agree that homosexuals should be allowed to raise children, because it went against traditional family values.

And then they went on the podium and told their story. Later the same woman came to them in tears to apologise for what she had said earlier. "And then she wrote to us later," says Ron laughing in his booming bass. "She said that she had our photo on a notice board in her office with a sign underneath it that read ‘they opened my heart and my eyes.'"