May 15, 2008 -- CIA agent was monitoring Israeli finances
WMR has learned that Roland V. Carnaby, the longtime CIA veteran and President of the Houston chapter of the Association for Intelligence Officers (AFIO), was involved in monitoring Israeli firms moving money and goods in and out of Israel.
Carnaby was gunned down in an April 29 "hit" by Houston police officers. WMR has also learned that the Houston Police Department originally misidentified one of the policemen involved in Carnaby's slaying as "Charles Foster." It was later discovered that Charles Foster was actually Cecil Foster. A Charles Foster had previously retired from the Houston police force.
Carnaby was also working with the Joint Terrorism Task Force in Houston, as well as the CIA's Counter-terrorism Center (CTC) in attempting to beef up security for the Port of Houston. Carnaby, WMR has learned, was involved in conducting security surveys of the port and discovered that the Department of Homeland Security had tolerated gaping holes in port security.
Carnaby and Houston intelligence and law enforcement personnel were also investigating the presence of "Middle Easterners" who were conducting surveillance of the Port of Houston. The "Middle Eastern" designator is the term used by the FBI for Israelis in order to avoid "political" problems with superiors.
The word from the federal agents who were involved in identifying weaknesses in Houston port security is they did not want to see "another 9/11-type part false flag."
WMR has also learned that Carnaby was a longtime player in Houston area intelligence matters and had established a close relationship with former President George H. W. Bush. However, WMR has also learned that the elder Bush's mental acuity is being affected by the early stages of Alzheimer's Disease.
WMR has also learned that Carnaby's Lebanese family, which used the original spelling of Karnabe, is very well-respected by different political and religious factions in the country. WMR has also learned that Carnaby had stumbled across some significant intelligence impacting the overall situation in the Middle East and that at the time of his death Carnaby wanted the intelligence to personally reach CIA director Michael Hayden without delay. WMR has been asked for assistance by US intelligence sources in Lebanon to assist in conveying the critical intelligence to Hayden. WMR has been told that the CIA and FBI have been infiltrated by gatekeepers that are ensuring that critical intelligence does not reach top U.S. policy makers in intelligence and law enforcement.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
Full Version: CIA Agent Killed Was Monitoring Israeli Finances
Again our government takes out another fighter against evil. If they didn't gun him down, he would be put in prison. Patriots are an endangered species, they are being gunned down every day for these Nazicans.
May 16-18, 2008 -- Was CIA agent's computer compromised?
WMR has discovered that the story proffered by the Houston Police Department that the CIA was sending someone from Virginia to Houston to check on the validity of CIA contract agent Roland Carnaby's CIA identification card was a ruse to cover up the fact that the police had impounded Carnaby's lap top computer and cell phone along with his Jeep Commander. Carnaby's ID card was already known to be authentic by CIA Headquarters in Virginia.
The CIA was concerned that details of Carnaby's classified and covert work for the CIA in the Port of Houston, as well as his non-official cover Carnaby Shipping Company Ltd. and American Global Enterprise contacts in the United States and Lebanon may have been compromised to Israeli Mossad agents who have infiltrated the Houston Police Department primarily through blackmail techniques. The Israeli Consulate General in Houston is reportedly at the center of the Israeli influence and intelligence ring in the fourth largest city in America and the home to the largest port for imports in the United States.
WMR has also been informed that Carnaby worked out of one the CIA's offices in Houston. A physical examination of the building also revealed that the entire ninth floor is occupied by the "Office of George Bush," the former President. The office building was once the headquarters of the Resolution Trust Corporation, the entity tasked with cleaning up the Savings and Loan fraud of the 1980s, a scandal that involved Bush's sons, particularly Neil and Jeb.
Carnaby was gunned down by Houston police on the 610 feeder road in the West/Hidden Oak neighborhood of Houston. The location is around the corner from the building housing George H. W. Bush's office.
WMR has also learned that Carnaby was trying to call the local CIA office before he was shot by the police.
WMR has been told by individuals familiar with Houston Police practices that after a police shooting the practice of the police is to "demonize the victim." Carnaby has not only faced such a barrage from the police but a concerted effort by Israeli-influenced media to paint Carnaby as a fraud.
(snip)
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
WMR has discovered that the story proffered by the Houston Police Department that the CIA was sending someone from Virginia to Houston to check on the validity of CIA contract agent Roland Carnaby's CIA identification card was a ruse to cover up the fact that the police had impounded Carnaby's lap top computer and cell phone along with his Jeep Commander. Carnaby's ID card was already known to be authentic by CIA Headquarters in Virginia.
The CIA was concerned that details of Carnaby's classified and covert work for the CIA in the Port of Houston, as well as his non-official cover Carnaby Shipping Company Ltd. and American Global Enterprise contacts in the United States and Lebanon may have been compromised to Israeli Mossad agents who have infiltrated the Houston Police Department primarily through blackmail techniques. The Israeli Consulate General in Houston is reportedly at the center of the Israeli influence and intelligence ring in the fourth largest city in America and the home to the largest port for imports in the United States.
WMR has also been informed that Carnaby worked out of one the CIA's offices in Houston. A physical examination of the building also revealed that the entire ninth floor is occupied by the "Office of George Bush," the former President. The office building was once the headquarters of the Resolution Trust Corporation, the entity tasked with cleaning up the Savings and Loan fraud of the 1980s, a scandal that involved Bush's sons, particularly Neil and Jeb.
Carnaby was gunned down by Houston police on the 610 feeder road in the West/Hidden Oak neighborhood of Houston. The location is around the corner from the building housing George H. W. Bush's office.
WMR has also learned that Carnaby was trying to call the local CIA office before he was shot by the police.
WMR has been told by individuals familiar with Houston Police practices that after a police shooting the practice of the police is to "demonize the victim." Carnaby has not only faced such a barrage from the police but a concerted effort by Israeli-influenced media to paint Carnaby as a fraud.
(snip)
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
I thought this kind of stuff only happened in the movies, or on HBO.
Disgraceful fascist pigs. Well, what's new with the Bush Crime Family? The know no limits do they?
It would appear that the Near Eastern campaign is taking a new direction.
I don't keep apprised like I used to, so surely by the time the next 'incident' occurs, it will already be too late for the informed majority to speak out.
residente.
I don't keep apprised like I used to, so surely by the time the next 'incident' occurs, it will already be too late for the informed majority to speak out.
residente.
QUOTE (Eyeswideopen @ May 15 2008, 01:00 PM) 
May 15, 2008 -- CIA agent was monitoring Israeli finances
WMR has learned that Roland V. Carnaby, the longtime CIA veteran and President of the Houston chapter of the Association for Intelligence Officers (AFIO), was involved in monitoring Israeli firms moving money and goods in and out of Israel.
Carnaby was gunned down in an April 29 "hit" by Houston police officers. WMR has also learned that the Houston Police Department originally misidentified one of the policemen involved in Carnaby's slaying as "Charles Foster." It was later discovered that Charles Foster was actually Cecil Foster. A Charles Foster had previously retired from the Houston police force.
Carnaby was also working with the Joint Terrorism Task Force in Houston, as well as the CIA's Counter-terrorism Center (CTC) in attempting to beef up security for the Port of Houston. Carnaby, WMR has learned, was involved in conducting security surveys of the port and discovered that the Department of Homeland Security had tolerated gaping holes in port security.
Carnaby and Houston intelligence and law enforcement personnel were also investigating the presence of "Middle Easterners" who were conducting surveillance of the Port of Houston. The "Middle Eastern" designator is the term used by the FBI for Israelis in order to avoid "political" problems with superiors.
The word from the federal agents who were involved in identifying weaknesses in Houston port security is they did not want to see "another 9/11-type part false flag."
WMR has also learned that Carnaby was a longtime player in Houston area intelligence matters and had established a close relationship with former President George H. W. Bush. However, WMR has also learned that the elder Bush's mental acuity is being affected by the early stages of Alzheimer's Disease.
WMR has also learned that Carnaby's Lebanese family, which used the original spelling of Karnabe, is very well-respected by different political and religious factions in the country. WMR has also learned that Carnaby had stumbled across some significant intelligence impacting the overall situation in the Middle East and that at the time of his death Carnaby wanted the intelligence to personally reach CIA director Michael Hayden without delay. WMR has been asked for assistance by US intelligence sources in Lebanon to assist in conveying the critical intelligence to Hayden. WMR has been told that the CIA and FBI have been infiltrated by gatekeepers that are ensuring that critical intelligence does not reach top U.S. policy makers in intelligence and law enforcement.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
WMR has learned that Roland V. Carnaby, the longtime CIA veteran and President of the Houston chapter of the Association for Intelligence Officers (AFIO), was involved in monitoring Israeli firms moving money and goods in and out of Israel.
Carnaby was gunned down in an April 29 "hit" by Houston police officers. WMR has also learned that the Houston Police Department originally misidentified one of the policemen involved in Carnaby's slaying as "Charles Foster." It was later discovered that Charles Foster was actually Cecil Foster. A Charles Foster had previously retired from the Houston police force.
Carnaby was also working with the Joint Terrorism Task Force in Houston, as well as the CIA's Counter-terrorism Center (CTC) in attempting to beef up security for the Port of Houston. Carnaby, WMR has learned, was involved in conducting security surveys of the port and discovered that the Department of Homeland Security had tolerated gaping holes in port security.
Carnaby and Houston intelligence and law enforcement personnel were also investigating the presence of "Middle Easterners" who were conducting surveillance of the Port of Houston. The "Middle Eastern" designator is the term used by the FBI for Israelis in order to avoid "political" problems with superiors.
The word from the federal agents who were involved in identifying weaknesses in Houston port security is they did not want to see "another 9/11-type part false flag."
WMR has also learned that Carnaby was a longtime player in Houston area intelligence matters and had established a close relationship with former President George H. W. Bush. However, WMR has also learned that the elder Bush's mental acuity is being affected by the early stages of Alzheimer's Disease.
WMR has also learned that Carnaby's Lebanese family, which used the original spelling of Karnabe, is very well-respected by different political and religious factions in the country. WMR has also learned that Carnaby had stumbled across some significant intelligence impacting the overall situation in the Middle East and that at the time of his death Carnaby wanted the intelligence to personally reach CIA director Michael Hayden without delay. WMR has been asked for assistance by US intelligence sources in Lebanon to assist in conveying the critical intelligence to Hayden. WMR has been told that the CIA and FBI have been infiltrated by gatekeepers that are ensuring that critical intelligence does not reach top U.S. policy makers in intelligence and law enforcement.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
May 19, 2008 -- SPECIAL REPORT. Assassinated CIA agent was CIA Station Chief
WMR has learned from extremely knowledgeable sources that Roland Vincent Carnaby, gunned down gangland assassination style on April 29 by Houston police, had served as the CIA's Chief of Station for the Southeast Region, headquartered in Houston. Carnaby's internal CIA business card stated that he worked for the Directorate of Operations at the CIA.
Carnaby was a thirty-year veteran of the CIA and had worked undercover in Lebanon during the fratricidal Lebanese civil war during the 1980s. Carnaby reportedly retired from active service but remained in Houston as a special contractor for the CIA and was involved in counter-terrorism activities.
There has been a concerted effort by the corporate media, including the Houston Chronicle, and some right-wing Jewish blogs to tarnish Carnaby's bona fides. In fact, the Israel Forum has parroted false information concerning Carnaby that was written by Mike Tolson, a senior reporter for the Chronicle who has a history of supporting Chief of Police Harold Hurtt. WMR has discovered the reason behind this anti-Carnaby campaign -- a campaign that is similar to the efforts to discredit Valerie Plame Wilson and FBI counter-terrorism chief John O'Neill. The same players are involved with the campaign against Carnaby and, from all indications, ordered his assassination on a major Houston thoroughfare.
This story, which impacts on plans to go to war with Iran, the Lebanese situation, and the upcoming trial of former Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz, is developing.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
WMR has learned from extremely knowledgeable sources that Roland Vincent Carnaby, gunned down gangland assassination style on April 29 by Houston police, had served as the CIA's Chief of Station for the Southeast Region, headquartered in Houston. Carnaby's internal CIA business card stated that he worked for the Directorate of Operations at the CIA.
Carnaby was a thirty-year veteran of the CIA and had worked undercover in Lebanon during the fratricidal Lebanese civil war during the 1980s. Carnaby reportedly retired from active service but remained in Houston as a special contractor for the CIA and was involved in counter-terrorism activities.
There has been a concerted effort by the corporate media, including the Houston Chronicle, and some right-wing Jewish blogs to tarnish Carnaby's bona fides. In fact, the Israel Forum has parroted false information concerning Carnaby that was written by Mike Tolson, a senior reporter for the Chronicle who has a history of supporting Chief of Police Harold Hurtt. WMR has discovered the reason behind this anti-Carnaby campaign -- a campaign that is similar to the efforts to discredit Valerie Plame Wilson and FBI counter-terrorism chief John O'Neill. The same players are involved with the campaign against Carnaby and, from all indications, ordered his assassination on a major Houston thoroughfare.
This story, which impacts on plans to go to war with Iran, the Lebanese situation, and the upcoming trial of former Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz, is developing.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
QUOTE (visionari @ May 16 2008, 12:58 PM)
I thought this kind of stuff only happened in the movies, or on HBO.
Or in Wayne Madsen stories - little difference really, though HBO has better production values than Madsen.
QUOTE (bushwa @ May 18 2008, 08:30 PM)
Or in Wayne Madsen stories - little difference really, though HBO has better production values than Madsen.
I genuinely caution against prematurely dismissing this story.
Carnaby's wife files suit.....
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=...&id=6118650
Well, well, well.....
We were all wondering what the next "false flag" operation was going to be and where.....Recomember when Deer Park police decided to hold a Pseudo Nuclear Exercise and shut down all the ATM's and bank branches??? It ain't so hard to figure this one out, folks...now whaddya' think the target is REALLY going to be?
How stupid does Chimpy McCokespoon think we are?? Oh never mind...will someone please institutionalize these cretins???
Kyoti
We were all wondering what the next "false flag" operation was going to be and where.....Recomember when Deer Park police decided to hold a Pseudo Nuclear Exercise and shut down all the ATM's and bank branches??? It ain't so hard to figure this one out, folks...now whaddya' think the target is REALLY going to be?
How stupid does Chimpy McCokespoon think we are?? Oh never mind...will someone please institutionalize these cretins???
Kyoti
Police Defend Officers In Chase Shooting
Houston.com
Police review first-aid training
Fatal shooting of man who claimed to work for CIA prompts new look
Houston Chronicle
Houston.com
Police review first-aid training
Fatal shooting of man who claimed to work for CIA prompts new look
Houston Chronicle
QUOTE (captainkona @ May 18 2008, 06:54 PM)
I genuinely caution against prematurely dismissing this story.
Carnaby's wife files suit.....
Carnaby's wife files suit.....
I certainly do NOT dismiss this story with regard to an incident where police have shot an unarmed motorist. I'm only rejecting the rubbish from Madsen that this is in any way involved the CIA. Indeed, according to the reports, both the victim's family and their attorney maintain that whether he worked for the CIA is immaterial to their case.
The opportunistic, craven, POS Madsen asks us to believe the Houston Police Department has served as the hit team in the ridiculous scenario he has outlined, one he claims is based upon "extremely knowledgeable sources." (What, as opposed to "somewhat knowledgeable sources?" Maybe "Sorta knowledgeable sources?" Or maybe sometimes other just use "barely knowledgeable sources.")
Indeed, outrageous, puzzling, mystifying and inexplicable police shooting are NOT unusual. Look, I guess this is ANOTHER CIA agent killed last week in an infamous suburb of Los Angeles, Inglewood.
In the Inglewood incident, police responded to a report of shots being fired. Arriving at the scene the police heard shots. (Initially they reported "feeling" bullets connect with there vehicle, but as later investigation revealed that nothing hit the police car, that claim has apparently been dropped.) The officers saw a vehicle rapidly pulling away from the area, and they unloaded their weapons on the car. They killed a 19 year old passenger, and wounded the 19 year old driver driver.
The driver and two passengers were all unarmed. No weapons were found in the vehicle or in the area. According to the police, later investigation revealed that, upon hearing the same shots which apparently brought the officers, the trio had jumped into their car to flee the area.
The Chief of the Inglewood Department, a department already known for killing the occasional unarmed civilian who "reached for a waistband" later found by a coroner to hold nothing, refused to characterize the shooting as an accidental shooting or a mistake. (That position is referenced in the article above, and she reiterated it in two press conferences in subsequent days.) Instead, she says it was a set of unfortunate circumstances which victimized the dead man, the wounded man, the officers and their respective families. A round of condolences for this table, please!
Wait until Wayne gets hold of THIS one, eh?
Back in Houston, while I think it extremely unlikely, were there a verified file documenting that Carnaby was in fact a top secret agent for the CIA (one who reportedly and for years told friends, family and his neighbors that he was a top secret agent for the CIA,) it wouldn't play a role in this investigation. Again, that's a point made by Carnaby's family and their attorney, too.
Houston police have a great deal to answer for. The CIA does not.
Unfortunately for the family, if asses like Madsen and his sycophants get their way, HPD won't have to defend itself against allegations of showing a reckless disregard for human life. They'll only have to refute to moronic allegations that several officers were either retained as a hit team for a spy network, or set-up by a spy network to eliminate a problem.
It's one kind of disgusting when Madsen milks accidents, corruption and wrongdoing as a basis for the fiction he sells to his dupes. But it seems infinitely more offensive when he takes incidents like these, where real lives are lost and real people are turned inside out, to keep his Visa card paid.
Finally, I'll once again renew by complaint on principle: Since few here can follow that ubiquitous link to Wayne Madsen's web site and employ a link's intended purpose - confirming that a story exists where it is claimed and see the entire report for themselves - I continue to maintain offering the link to a subscriber site is obviously included only as a commercial to advertise Wayne's business. It's spam, man, and every bit as credible as the Nigerian banker letter, and the penis-extending meds.
QUOTE (Eyeswideopen @ May 18 2008, 08:04 PM)
May 19, 2008 -- SPECIAL REPORT. Assassinated CIA agent was CIA Station Chief
WMR has learned from extremely knowledgeable sources that Roland Vincent Carnaby, gunned down gangland assassination style on April 29 by Houston police, had served as the CIA's Chief of Station for the Southeast Region, headquartered in Houston. Carnaby's internal CIA business card stated that he worked for the Directorate of Operations at the CIA.
Carnaby was a thirty-year veteran of the CIA and had worked undercover in Lebanon during the fratricidal Lebanese civil war during the 1980s. Carnaby reportedly retired from active service but remained in Houston as a special contractor for the CIA and was involved in counter-terrorism activities.
There has been a concerted effort by the corporate media, including the Houston Chronicle, and some right-wing Jewish blogs to tarnish Carnaby's bona fides. In fact, the Israel Forum has parroted false information concerning Carnaby that was written by Mike Tolson, a senior reporter for the Chronicle who has a history of supporting Chief of Police Harold Hurtt. WMR has discovered the reason behind this anti-Carnaby campaign -- a campaign that is similar to the efforts to discredit Valerie Plame Wilson and FBI counter-terrorism chief John O'Neill. The same players are involved with the campaign against Carnaby and, from all indications, ordered his assassination on a major Houston thoroughfare.
This story, which impacts on plans to go to war with Iran, the Lebanese situation, and the upcoming trial of former Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz, is developing.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
WMR has learned from extremely knowledgeable sources that Roland Vincent Carnaby, gunned down gangland assassination style on April 29 by Houston police, had served as the CIA's Chief of Station for the Southeast Region, headquartered in Houston. Carnaby's internal CIA business card stated that he worked for the Directorate of Operations at the CIA.
Carnaby was a thirty-year veteran of the CIA and had worked undercover in Lebanon during the fratricidal Lebanese civil war during the 1980s. Carnaby reportedly retired from active service but remained in Houston as a special contractor for the CIA and was involved in counter-terrorism activities.
There has been a concerted effort by the corporate media, including the Houston Chronicle, and some right-wing Jewish blogs to tarnish Carnaby's bona fides. In fact, the Israel Forum has parroted false information concerning Carnaby that was written by Mike Tolson, a senior reporter for the Chronicle who has a history of supporting Chief of Police Harold Hurtt. WMR has discovered the reason behind this anti-Carnaby campaign -- a campaign that is similar to the efforts to discredit Valerie Plame Wilson and FBI counter-terrorism chief John O'Neill. The same players are involved with the campaign against Carnaby and, from all indications, ordered his assassination on a major Houston thoroughfare.
This story, which impacts on plans to go to war with Iran, the Lebanese situation, and the upcoming trial of former Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz, is developing.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
help me out here....
How does Madsen connect Carnaby's death in Houston to Tariq Aziz's involvement with the 1992 execution of some merchants, that hiked food prices when Iraq was under international sanctions?
here's the link for the Israel Forum
I don't see what Madsen is talking about.
somebody help me out, please.
I don't see what Madsen is talking about.
somebody help me out, please.
QUOTE (Libertas @ May 19 2008, 02:57 AM)
here's the link for the Israel Forum
I don't see what Madsen is talking about.
somebody help me out, please.
I don't see what Madsen is talking about.
somebody help me out, please.
never mind.... I found it
JBlog Central
so what... somebody wrote a blog about this Houston Chronicle column on the Israel Forum's blog page.... is supposed to be significant because?
May 19, 2008 -- SPECIAL REPORT. EXCLUSIVE TO WMR. Assassinated CIA station chief was kidnap victim in Lebanon
Roland V. Carnaby, the one-time Houston CIA station chief who was gunned down by Houston police on April 29, had been a kidnap victim of Hezbollah in Lebanon where he served in the 1980s as a clandestine CIA officer. Carnaby was fluent in Italian, French, English, and Arabic.
According to knowledgeable sources, Carnaby had been taken hostage before the kidnapping of his boss, CIA Beirut station chief William F. Buckley. Carnaby was later exchanged in a swap of prisoners between Hezbollah and the Lebanese government. Buckley was not so fortunate. On March 16, 1984, Buckley was kidnapped by Hezbollah, held by Islamic Jihad, and was later tortured and executed in 1985 by his captors. Buckley's remains were found in a plastic bag in 1991 on a road to Beirut airport.
On a recent visit to Washington, DC, Carnaby visited Buckley's grave at Arlington National Cemetery and broke down in tears, according to a reliable source.
Carnaby reportedly expressed great joy at the February 13, 2008 car bombing assassination of top Hezbollah military commander Imad Mugniyah in Damascus. Carnaby was aware of the means of Mugniyah's assassination, a triggering device placed in the spring cushion of Mugniyah's automobile while it was being "repaired."
(snip)
In addition to Buckley, Mugniyah was reportedly behind the kidnapping and execution of Marine Corps peacekeeper Lt. Col. William Higgins. It was Carnaby's friendship and loyalty to Buckley that prompted him to name the Houston chapter of the Association for Intelligence Officers (AFIO), headed by Carnaby at the time of his assassination, for Buckley.
Carnaby also had former CIA director George Tenet's personal telephone number in his personal phone book. Carnaby regularly dined with the former FBI Houston Assistant Special Agent-in-charge Don Clark, On the morning Carnaby was being chased by Houston police, the FBI phoned the Houston police and pleaded with them to call off the pursuit of Carnaby. According to FBI sources, the Houston police refused.
There is also reason to believe that Carnaby was tailed by police into Houston from Brazoria County. WMR has learned that the Brazoria County Sheriff's Department contacted the Houston police to inform them that Carnaby was en route to Houston from Brazoria County. The rear of Carnaby's Jeep Commander was riddled with bullet holes, an indication that he was being shot at while driving.
WMR has also learned that one of Carnaby's best friends was the late FBI counter-terrorism chief agent John P. O'Neill. O'Neill investigated a series of terrorist attacks against the United States, including the October 2000 attack on the US Cole in Aden. The US ambassador to Yemen, Barbara Bodine, later expelled O'Neill and his team from Yemen for getting too close to the real perpetrators of anti-U.S. attacks -- Saudi Arabia and Israel.
In August 2001, a few weeks before 9/11, O'Neill was put under an FBI investigation for "losing" a briefcase containing classified counter-espionage and counter-terrorism in New York City. The briefcase was stolen while O'Neill was attending a seminar in Florida. The case was returned some 90 minutes later but the incident was leaked by someone in the FBI to the media. O'Neill's friends contend he was the victim of a smear campaign, the same type of campaign now being directed against Carnaby and from the same usual suspects. O'Neill was offered and took the job as director of security for the World Trade Center. He died on September 11, 2001 while assisting people evacuating the towers.
Roland Carnaby, gunned down by Houston police, kept a laminated funeral mass card [copy above] for his close friend John O'Neill in his wallet.
(snip)
In March of this year, a Woody Allen "Zelig"-type character named Alan Premel began a sophisticated Internet operation designed to place him as a CIA colleague of Carnaby's. Not only did Premel out Carnaby as a CIA agent but he claimed to have worked with him in clandestine operations, even claiming that they wrote a book together and appeared at a book signing at a Barnes and Noble bookstore. A U.S. intelligence source said that Premel was "created to be in place until he was needed." Premel's postings about his fake CIA background first appeared on the web in January 2007. WMR has learned that Premel was fired as a FedEX driver for stealing I-Pods, has restraining orders against him by his ex-wife and a porn movie star he knew, and lives at home with his parents.
Carnaby was incensed at Premel's Internet postings. Carnaby contacted CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia and asked his colleagues, "What is this guy trying to do to me?" Carnaby was always careful about his true identity being revealed and for reasons now known by WMR. These details will not be published by WMR due to the sensitivity the disclosure of the information may have on clandestine CIA activities abroad and the danger that could be faced by covert operations personnel. However, there is a possibility that Carnaby's laptop computer files may have been compromised to a hostile foreign intelligence service when it was impounded by Houston police. The Houston police has been heavily infiltrated by Israeli intelligence agents who operate freely with the knowledge of top Houston city and police officials.
(snip)
A conservative Republican who was very close to former President George H. W. Bush, Carnaby was not shy about his feelings about Vice President Dick Cheney. He blamed Cheney for steering George W. Bush into the Iraq fiasco and told a close friend that he "feared for his country" and was worried about a U.S. war with Iran. Encountering Carnaby by surprise in a Houston restaurant, the elder Bush embraced him warmly as only old friends would do, according to a source close to the slain CIA agent. Carnaby was described as more loyal to the senior Bush than to George W. Bush. It is also known that Carnaby privately supported Ron Paul over John McCain in the GOP primary race.
A source who knew Carnaby well said the former CIA station chief "knew what was about to happen with Iran" and that he "connected all the dots and knew what was going on." Carnaby was also incensed at the forced retirement of US Central Command (CENTCOM) chief Admiral William Fallon, an opponent of U.S. military action against Iran.
Carnaby grew increasingly skittish in the weeks before his death. While at a Houston restaurant, Carnaby was approached by a man who appeared "tipsy" with an open bag used for to-go orders. He greeted Carnaby and asked how he was doing. Carnaby responded by telling him he did not know him. The man said he was sorry but Carnaby had already reached for his concealed hand gun. Following the man out of the restaurant, Carnaby discovered the man getting into a car with diplomatic plates -- plates assigned to the Israeli Consulate General in Houston, which is located in Greenway Plaza, and is the third largest Israeli consulate in the United States.
(snip)
Carnaby maintained a close relationship to Israelis in Houston and regularly spoke to Israel by phone. However, he told a colleague that he kept his close contacts with Israelis and because he believed in "keeping his friends close and his enemies closer." After his death, Carnaby has been the subject of a vicious smear campaign from web sites connected to Jewish and Israeli interests. It is also known that Carnaby was livid over the Department of Homeland Security's failure to adequately secure the Port of Houston from terrorist attacks and smuggling weapons of mass destruction.
Carnaby also told a friend that he was incensed over the treatment of the administration of former Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz. Aziz, an Iraqi Christian, went on trial today in Baghdad. Carnaby said that Aziz's imprisonment is no way for "the government to treat one of its assets."
Asked why CIA director Michael Hayden allowed Carnaby's name to be dragged through the mud after his assassination in Houston, a US intelligence source commented, "someone is telling him [Hayden] how to run his shop." When asked who the "someone" is, the source confided that a "general only gets a fourth star if the President and Cheney say so."
(snip)
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
Roland V. Carnaby, the one-time Houston CIA station chief who was gunned down by Houston police on April 29, had been a kidnap victim of Hezbollah in Lebanon where he served in the 1980s as a clandestine CIA officer. Carnaby was fluent in Italian, French, English, and Arabic.
According to knowledgeable sources, Carnaby had been taken hostage before the kidnapping of his boss, CIA Beirut station chief William F. Buckley. Carnaby was later exchanged in a swap of prisoners between Hezbollah and the Lebanese government. Buckley was not so fortunate. On March 16, 1984, Buckley was kidnapped by Hezbollah, held by Islamic Jihad, and was later tortured and executed in 1985 by his captors. Buckley's remains were found in a plastic bag in 1991 on a road to Beirut airport.
On a recent visit to Washington, DC, Carnaby visited Buckley's grave at Arlington National Cemetery and broke down in tears, according to a reliable source.
Carnaby reportedly expressed great joy at the February 13, 2008 car bombing assassination of top Hezbollah military commander Imad Mugniyah in Damascus. Carnaby was aware of the means of Mugniyah's assassination, a triggering device placed in the spring cushion of Mugniyah's automobile while it was being "repaired."
(snip)
In addition to Buckley, Mugniyah was reportedly behind the kidnapping and execution of Marine Corps peacekeeper Lt. Col. William Higgins. It was Carnaby's friendship and loyalty to Buckley that prompted him to name the Houston chapter of the Association for Intelligence Officers (AFIO), headed by Carnaby at the time of his assassination, for Buckley.
Carnaby also had former CIA director George Tenet's personal telephone number in his personal phone book. Carnaby regularly dined with the former FBI Houston Assistant Special Agent-in-charge Don Clark, On the morning Carnaby was being chased by Houston police, the FBI phoned the Houston police and pleaded with them to call off the pursuit of Carnaby. According to FBI sources, the Houston police refused.
There is also reason to believe that Carnaby was tailed by police into Houston from Brazoria County. WMR has learned that the Brazoria County Sheriff's Department contacted the Houston police to inform them that Carnaby was en route to Houston from Brazoria County. The rear of Carnaby's Jeep Commander was riddled with bullet holes, an indication that he was being shot at while driving.
WMR has also learned that one of Carnaby's best friends was the late FBI counter-terrorism chief agent John P. O'Neill. O'Neill investigated a series of terrorist attacks against the United States, including the October 2000 attack on the US Cole in Aden. The US ambassador to Yemen, Barbara Bodine, later expelled O'Neill and his team from Yemen for getting too close to the real perpetrators of anti-U.S. attacks -- Saudi Arabia and Israel.
In August 2001, a few weeks before 9/11, O'Neill was put under an FBI investigation for "losing" a briefcase containing classified counter-espionage and counter-terrorism in New York City. The briefcase was stolen while O'Neill was attending a seminar in Florida. The case was returned some 90 minutes later but the incident was leaked by someone in the FBI to the media. O'Neill's friends contend he was the victim of a smear campaign, the same type of campaign now being directed against Carnaby and from the same usual suspects. O'Neill was offered and took the job as director of security for the World Trade Center. He died on September 11, 2001 while assisting people evacuating the towers.
Roland Carnaby, gunned down by Houston police, kept a laminated funeral mass card [copy above] for his close friend John O'Neill in his wallet.
(snip)
In March of this year, a Woody Allen "Zelig"-type character named Alan Premel began a sophisticated Internet operation designed to place him as a CIA colleague of Carnaby's. Not only did Premel out Carnaby as a CIA agent but he claimed to have worked with him in clandestine operations, even claiming that they wrote a book together and appeared at a book signing at a Barnes and Noble bookstore. A U.S. intelligence source said that Premel was "created to be in place until he was needed." Premel's postings about his fake CIA background first appeared on the web in January 2007. WMR has learned that Premel was fired as a FedEX driver for stealing I-Pods, has restraining orders against him by his ex-wife and a porn movie star he knew, and lives at home with his parents.
Carnaby was incensed at Premel's Internet postings. Carnaby contacted CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia and asked his colleagues, "What is this guy trying to do to me?" Carnaby was always careful about his true identity being revealed and for reasons now known by WMR. These details will not be published by WMR due to the sensitivity the disclosure of the information may have on clandestine CIA activities abroad and the danger that could be faced by covert operations personnel. However, there is a possibility that Carnaby's laptop computer files may have been compromised to a hostile foreign intelligence service when it was impounded by Houston police. The Houston police has been heavily infiltrated by Israeli intelligence agents who operate freely with the knowledge of top Houston city and police officials.
(snip)
A conservative Republican who was very close to former President George H. W. Bush, Carnaby was not shy about his feelings about Vice President Dick Cheney. He blamed Cheney for steering George W. Bush into the Iraq fiasco and told a close friend that he "feared for his country" and was worried about a U.S. war with Iran. Encountering Carnaby by surprise in a Houston restaurant, the elder Bush embraced him warmly as only old friends would do, according to a source close to the slain CIA agent. Carnaby was described as more loyal to the senior Bush than to George W. Bush. It is also known that Carnaby privately supported Ron Paul over John McCain in the GOP primary race.
A source who knew Carnaby well said the former CIA station chief "knew what was about to happen with Iran" and that he "connected all the dots and knew what was going on." Carnaby was also incensed at the forced retirement of US Central Command (CENTCOM) chief Admiral William Fallon, an opponent of U.S. military action against Iran.
Carnaby grew increasingly skittish in the weeks before his death. While at a Houston restaurant, Carnaby was approached by a man who appeared "tipsy" with an open bag used for to-go orders. He greeted Carnaby and asked how he was doing. Carnaby responded by telling him he did not know him. The man said he was sorry but Carnaby had already reached for his concealed hand gun. Following the man out of the restaurant, Carnaby discovered the man getting into a car with diplomatic plates -- plates assigned to the Israeli Consulate General in Houston, which is located in Greenway Plaza, and is the third largest Israeli consulate in the United States.
(snip)
Carnaby maintained a close relationship to Israelis in Houston and regularly spoke to Israel by phone. However, he told a colleague that he kept his close contacts with Israelis and because he believed in "keeping his friends close and his enemies closer." After his death, Carnaby has been the subject of a vicious smear campaign from web sites connected to Jewish and Israeli interests. It is also known that Carnaby was livid over the Department of Homeland Security's failure to adequately secure the Port of Houston from terrorist attacks and smuggling weapons of mass destruction.
Carnaby also told a friend that he was incensed over the treatment of the administration of former Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz. Aziz, an Iraqi Christian, went on trial today in Baghdad. Carnaby said that Aziz's imprisonment is no way for "the government to treat one of its assets."
Asked why CIA director Michael Hayden allowed Carnaby's name to be dragged through the mud after his assassination in Houston, a US intelligence source commented, "someone is telling him [Hayden] how to run his shop." When asked who the "someone" is, the source confided that a "general only gets a fourth star if the President and Cheney say so."
(snip)
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
May 20, 2008 -- Anatomy of a police cover-up
WMR has learned from contacts inside the Houston Police Department that a new police chase policy was created after two Houston police officers, Cecil Foster and Andrew Washington, shot and killed one-time CIA Houston station chief Roland V. Carnaby.
Foster and Washington, Houston traffic officers, are now back on duty after a brief suspension with pay. However, their worst days may be ahead of them.
Houston police sources confirm that the two officers will be charged by the Houston police and city of Houston with failing to follow the chase procedures that were issued after the April 29 shooting incident but dated before the incident to show negligence on the part of the officers.
By showing the two officers were not following proper chase procedures, the city will maintain it is not liable in the lawsuit brought against the city by Carnaby's wife.
The city will then contend that Foster and Washington violated proper police procedures and they will "take the fall," according to the police sources.
The Houston police have been reluctant to release files on the Carnaby shooting. WMR was only able to obtain a copy of the Offense Report, a half page that identifies the victim, the place the shooting occurred, and the address of the decedent.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
WMR has learned from contacts inside the Houston Police Department that a new police chase policy was created after two Houston police officers, Cecil Foster and Andrew Washington, shot and killed one-time CIA Houston station chief Roland V. Carnaby.
Foster and Washington, Houston traffic officers, are now back on duty after a brief suspension with pay. However, their worst days may be ahead of them.
Houston police sources confirm that the two officers will be charged by the Houston police and city of Houston with failing to follow the chase procedures that were issued after the April 29 shooting incident but dated before the incident to show negligence on the part of the officers.
By showing the two officers were not following proper chase procedures, the city will maintain it is not liable in the lawsuit brought against the city by Carnaby's wife.
The city will then contend that Foster and Washington violated proper police procedures and they will "take the fall," according to the police sources.
The Houston police have been reluctant to release files on the Carnaby shooting. WMR was only able to obtain a copy of the Offense Report, a half page that identifies the victim, the place the shooting occurred, and the address of the decedent.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
May 20, 2008 -- Carnaby had access inside the Israeli Prime Minister's office
Roland Carnaby, the one-time CIA Station Chief for the Southeast Region, headquartered in Houston, had sources inside the office of Israel's Prime Minister. A source who knew Carnaby said the agent, killed by Houston police on April 29, had a certificate of appreciation personally signed by former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. The certificate was embossed with the seal of the HaMossad leModi'in v'leTafkidim Meyuhadim [המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים], the Mossad.
Carnaby maintained close links to Israeli intelligence and sponsored and vouched for a number of Israeli security contractors who wanted to provide services to the George Bush International Airport in Houston. However, it is now clear that Carnaby obtained knowledge about Israeli and Bush administration plans to start a Middle East conflagration that was enough for elements inside the Bush White House, Israeli intelligence, and their contacts inside the Houston Police Department to have him assassinated.
On May 6, 2008, WMR reported: WMR has learned from its Middle East intelligence sources that a leak from the office of Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's office resulted in the last minute scuttling of an Israeli intelligence operation in Beirut that would have started a series of events that would have likely resulted in the outbreak of warfare between Israel and Lebanon, Syria, and possibly, between Iran and the United States.
Israel's Mossad planned an April 25 assassination, likely by its favorite method, a massive car bomb, of Lebanese Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. Because the assassination would have triggered the "perfect storm" for the outbreak of war in Lebanon, with the involvement of Israel, the United States, Syria, and Iran, an official in Olmert's office leaked the assassination plan. When it became apparent that there was a leak, Mossad scuttled the entire operation.
The plan was immediately known by the CIA and Hezbollah. It is known that retired CIA officer and contractor Roland Carnaby, a Lebanese-American, had close contact with all of Lebanon's various factions. On April 29, four days after the planned assassination of Nasrallah by Mossad, Carnaby was killed in broad daylight by Houston police. WMR previously reported that Carnaby had successfully penetrated a Mossad ring active in the Houston area.
WMR has learned from CIA sources in Lebanon that Carnaby maintained a close link to retired Lebanese General Michael Aoun, a major Christian leader who has allied his party to Hezbollah and its leader Hassan Nasrallah. Aoun was once considered an ally of Israel but broke his ties after Israel's devastating sneak attack on Lebanon in 2006.
It is likely that Carnaby was the nexus that served to pass the leak from Olmert's office to Aoun and then to Nasrallah. It was the plan for a U.S. and Israeli assault on Lebanon following Nasrallah's assassination that prompted the Hezbollah leader to carry out a show of force against the pro-US government of Prime Minister Fuad Siniora. Plans by the United States and Israel to attack Lebanon would have been coordinated with a military assault on Syria and eventually, Iran.
Carnaby was very close to former President George H. W. Bush, who WMR has been told is adamantly opposed to any U.S. military strike on Lebanon, Syria, or Iran.
(snip)
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
Roland Carnaby, the one-time CIA Station Chief for the Southeast Region, headquartered in Houston, had sources inside the office of Israel's Prime Minister. A source who knew Carnaby said the agent, killed by Houston police on April 29, had a certificate of appreciation personally signed by former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. The certificate was embossed with the seal of the HaMossad leModi'in v'leTafkidim Meyuhadim [המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים], the Mossad.
Carnaby maintained close links to Israeli intelligence and sponsored and vouched for a number of Israeli security contractors who wanted to provide services to the George Bush International Airport in Houston. However, it is now clear that Carnaby obtained knowledge about Israeli and Bush administration plans to start a Middle East conflagration that was enough for elements inside the Bush White House, Israeli intelligence, and their contacts inside the Houston Police Department to have him assassinated.
On May 6, 2008, WMR reported: WMR has learned from its Middle East intelligence sources that a leak from the office of Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's office resulted in the last minute scuttling of an Israeli intelligence operation in Beirut that would have started a series of events that would have likely resulted in the outbreak of warfare between Israel and Lebanon, Syria, and possibly, between Iran and the United States.
Israel's Mossad planned an April 25 assassination, likely by its favorite method, a massive car bomb, of Lebanese Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. Because the assassination would have triggered the "perfect storm" for the outbreak of war in Lebanon, with the involvement of Israel, the United States, Syria, and Iran, an official in Olmert's office leaked the assassination plan. When it became apparent that there was a leak, Mossad scuttled the entire operation.
The plan was immediately known by the CIA and Hezbollah. It is known that retired CIA officer and contractor Roland Carnaby, a Lebanese-American, had close contact with all of Lebanon's various factions. On April 29, four days after the planned assassination of Nasrallah by Mossad, Carnaby was killed in broad daylight by Houston police. WMR previously reported that Carnaby had successfully penetrated a Mossad ring active in the Houston area.
WMR has learned from CIA sources in Lebanon that Carnaby maintained a close link to retired Lebanese General Michael Aoun, a major Christian leader who has allied his party to Hezbollah and its leader Hassan Nasrallah. Aoun was once considered an ally of Israel but broke his ties after Israel's devastating sneak attack on Lebanon in 2006.
It is likely that Carnaby was the nexus that served to pass the leak from Olmert's office to Aoun and then to Nasrallah. It was the plan for a U.S. and Israeli assault on Lebanon following Nasrallah's assassination that prompted the Hezbollah leader to carry out a show of force against the pro-US government of Prime Minister Fuad Siniora. Plans by the United States and Israel to attack Lebanon would have been coordinated with a military assault on Syria and eventually, Iran.
Carnaby was very close to former President George H. W. Bush, who WMR has been told is adamantly opposed to any U.S. military strike on Lebanon, Syria, or Iran.
(snip)
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
May 21, 2008 -- Coordinated attack on Arab-American intelligence assets
WMR has learned that the assassination of Lebanese-American one-time CIA Houston station chief Roland Carnaby by the Houston Police was part of a coordinated effort by Israeli intelligence operatives working in tandem with the neocon cell operating under the patronage of Vice President Dick Cheney to silence key Arab-American intelligence assets. Carnaby served as a key link between a leaker in the Israeli Prime Minister's office and key Lebanese elements.
Former CIA and FBI officer Nada Prouty, a naturalized US citizen from Lebanon, was found guilty of lying in order to obtain US citizenship through marriage. Prouty served with US forces in Iraq, accepting dangerous missions. On May 13, Prouty was fined $750 but given no jail time by a US judge in Detroit. Prouty was charged with illegally accessing a classified FBI counter-terrorism computer system to see if her brother-in-law, Talal Chahine, owner of the La Shish restaurant chain, was under investigation by the FBI. The neocon press, egged on by the Israelis, dubbed Prouty a "Hezbollah mole." Prouty had transferred from the FBI to the CIA.
However, several CIA and FBI agents wrote letters to the judge on Prouty's behalf, something unusual for a so-called "Hezbollah spy." Some of her CIA supervisors say they would re-hire Prouty.
Prouty's second American husband is a State Department official who has served in the US embassies in Pakistan and Egypt. Prouty has lived in the United States since 1989.
Prouty also lost her citizenship and faces deportation to Lebanon, however, the judge stayed the deportation order. The Justice Department says Prouty knows too much about US intelligence to be deported to Lebanon. Prouty's former room mate, Marine Corps Captain Samar (Karen) Spinelli, another Arab-American who also served in Iraq, was fined $500 for marriage fraud to gain citizenship. She was forced to resign from the Marines.
(snip)
On April 16, 2008, Lebanese-Palestinian naturalized American citizen Riad Hamid, an Austin, Texas activist who raised money for Palestinian refugee children through his Palestine Children's Welfare Fund (PCWF), was found in Lady Bird Lake in Austin. Hamad had lived in the United States foe 30 years. In February, Hamad had been visited by some 18 FBI agents who searched his home and seized computers and documents. Hamad's feet and hands were bound and his eyes were taped over. Austin police ruled the death a suicide. The local American Civil Liberties Union called it a homicide.
US intelligence sources in Houston told WMR that Hamid's death was an assassination and they blamed it on Israeli intelligence agents operating out of the same cell that Carnaby had under surveillance. Hamid, like Carnaby and Prouty, had contact with important US intelligence assets in the Middle East, particularly Lebanon.
(snip)
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
WMR has learned that the assassination of Lebanese-American one-time CIA Houston station chief Roland Carnaby by the Houston Police was part of a coordinated effort by Israeli intelligence operatives working in tandem with the neocon cell operating under the patronage of Vice President Dick Cheney to silence key Arab-American intelligence assets. Carnaby served as a key link between a leaker in the Israeli Prime Minister's office and key Lebanese elements.
Former CIA and FBI officer Nada Prouty, a naturalized US citizen from Lebanon, was found guilty of lying in order to obtain US citizenship through marriage. Prouty served with US forces in Iraq, accepting dangerous missions. On May 13, Prouty was fined $750 but given no jail time by a US judge in Detroit. Prouty was charged with illegally accessing a classified FBI counter-terrorism computer system to see if her brother-in-law, Talal Chahine, owner of the La Shish restaurant chain, was under investigation by the FBI. The neocon press, egged on by the Israelis, dubbed Prouty a "Hezbollah mole." Prouty had transferred from the FBI to the CIA.
However, several CIA and FBI agents wrote letters to the judge on Prouty's behalf, something unusual for a so-called "Hezbollah spy." Some of her CIA supervisors say they would re-hire Prouty.
Prouty's second American husband is a State Department official who has served in the US embassies in Pakistan and Egypt. Prouty has lived in the United States since 1989.
Prouty also lost her citizenship and faces deportation to Lebanon, however, the judge stayed the deportation order. The Justice Department says Prouty knows too much about US intelligence to be deported to Lebanon. Prouty's former room mate, Marine Corps Captain Samar (Karen) Spinelli, another Arab-American who also served in Iraq, was fined $500 for marriage fraud to gain citizenship. She was forced to resign from the Marines.
(snip)
On April 16, 2008, Lebanese-Palestinian naturalized American citizen Riad Hamid, an Austin, Texas activist who raised money for Palestinian refugee children through his Palestine Children's Welfare Fund (PCWF), was found in Lady Bird Lake in Austin. Hamad had lived in the United States foe 30 years. In February, Hamad had been visited by some 18 FBI agents who searched his home and seized computers and documents. Hamad's feet and hands were bound and his eyes were taped over. Austin police ruled the death a suicide. The local American Civil Liberties Union called it a homicide.
US intelligence sources in Houston told WMR that Hamid's death was an assassination and they blamed it on Israeli intelligence agents operating out of the same cell that Carnaby had under surveillance. Hamid, like Carnaby and Prouty, had contact with important US intelligence assets in the Middle East, particularly Lebanon.
(snip)
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
May 21, 2008 -- Assassinated CIA agent also had close connections to James Baker
WMR has learned from reliable US intelligence sources that Roland Carnaby, the one-time CIA station chief in Houston not only enjoyed a close relationship with former President George H. W. Bush but also counted former Secretary of State James Baker, a close Bush confidante, as a close associate. Carnaby and Baker were reportedly involved in a hush-hush project involving themselves, a number of retired US military generals, and the FBI.
WMR has also learned that Carnaby was aware from US intelligence signals and human intelligence sources that the upcoming Memorial Day and Fourth of July holidays were going to see Condition Red security alerts issued by the Department of Homeland Security for the possibility of a domestic security "incident."
WMR has also learned details from US intelligence sources about the FBI's investigation of the USS Cole terrorist attack in Aden harbor in October 2000, weeks before the 2000 presidential election that propelled George W. Bush into the White House under dubious circumstances. FBI chief counter-terrorism agent John O'Neill, a close friend of Carnaby, and who died in the World Trade Center attack, had questions about whether the Cole was blown up by two Arabs in a dinghy.
(snip)
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
WMR has learned from reliable US intelligence sources that Roland Carnaby, the one-time CIA station chief in Houston not only enjoyed a close relationship with former President George H. W. Bush but also counted former Secretary of State James Baker, a close Bush confidante, as a close associate. Carnaby and Baker were reportedly involved in a hush-hush project involving themselves, a number of retired US military generals, and the FBI.
WMR has also learned that Carnaby was aware from US intelligence signals and human intelligence sources that the upcoming Memorial Day and Fourth of July holidays were going to see Condition Red security alerts issued by the Department of Homeland Security for the possibility of a domestic security "incident."
WMR has also learned details from US intelligence sources about the FBI's investigation of the USS Cole terrorist attack in Aden harbor in October 2000, weeks before the 2000 presidential election that propelled George W. Bush into the White House under dubious circumstances. FBI chief counter-terrorism agent John O'Neill, a close friend of Carnaby, and who died in the World Trade Center attack, had questions about whether the Cole was blown up by two Arabs in a dinghy.
(snip)
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
QUOTE (Eyeswideopen @ May 21 2008, 08:06 AM)
May 21, 2008 -- Coordinated attack on Arab-American intelligence assets
WMR has learned that the assassination of Lebanese-American one-time CIA Houston station chief Roland Carnaby by the Houston Police was part of a coordinated effort by Israeli intelligence operatives working in tandem with the neocon cell operating under the patronage of Vice President Dick Cheney to silence key Arab-American intelligence assets. ...
WMR has learned that the assassination of Lebanese-American one-time CIA Houston station chief Roland Carnaby by the Houston Police was part of a coordinated effort by Israeli intelligence operatives working in tandem with the neocon cell operating under the patronage of Vice President Dick Cheney to silence key Arab-American intelligence assets. ...
Oh, bullshit.
QUOTE (bushwa @ May 21 2008, 12:41 PM)
Oh, bullshit.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum...mes;read=123773
I checked here: http://www.peoplefinders.com/
searching all states and it shows that Roland Carnaby, age 52 put down roots
in the following places:
* MISSOURI CITY, TX
* KINGSLAND, TX
* HOUSTON, TX
* SPRING, TX
* THE WOODLANDS, TX
As with all search websites, there could be errors or omissions, but it looks like our subject
never lived in VA or Washington D.C.
[snip]
I have reviewed all the information posted here about Carnaby and can find no mention that he was ever a resident of Va. or Washington D.C.
Instead, the information states he was a Lebanese/American who served in Lebanon in '80's and that he was the CIA station chief in Houston, Tx. Also, the mention of his close associations with GHW Bush and with James Baker also point to Houston.
Who knows if Carnaby was even his real name or if it was his established name here in the U.S. as he worked undercover for the CIA in Texas? Neither would a man who worked for the CIA in Lebanon in the '80's necessarily have ever established residence in the D.C. area, at least not under that name.
Instead, the information states he was a Lebanese/American who served in Lebanon in '80's and that he was the CIA station chief in Houston, Tx. Also, the mention of his close associations with GHW Bush and with James Baker also point to Houston.
Who knows if Carnaby was even his real name or if it was his established name here in the U.S. as he worked undercover for the CIA in Texas? Neither would a man who worked for the CIA in Lebanon in the '80's necessarily have ever established residence in the D.C. area, at least not under that name.
May 27-28, 2008 -- Details slowly emerge about CIA officer ordered "taken out"
Clouded in mystery ever since Houston police gunned him down in Houston's fashionable Galleria section on April 29, a few more details about former CIA Houston station chief Roland V. Carnaby are emerging.
WMR sources in Lebanon have informed us that the District Attorney for Harris County, Ken Magidson, who replaced Chuck Rosenthal who resigned last February after pornographic and racist emails were found on his work computer, is focusing his investigation of the Carnaby incident on the person within the Houston Police Department who issued the order to stop Carnaby.
The identity of that individual is known to the District Attorney and the scenario that played out on the morning of April 29 was the police official in question informed officers Andrew Washington and Cecil Foster that Carnaby was transporting weapons and ordered them to stop him. While Carnaby was trying to contact the FBI and Houston Police, he dropped his Blackberry and while trying to pick it up, the police officers opened fire on Carnaby thinking he was reaching for a weapon.
The individual who gave the order to stop Carnaby and informed the traffic officers that he was transporting weapons has been connected to an Israeli intelligence operation in Houston, an operation that was under investigation by Carnaby, according to our intelligence sources in Lebanon. The police official in question is under investigation but because of the sensitivity surrounding the involvement of Israelis, the inquiry is being kept low key.
Our sources in Lebanon have also confirmed that Carnaby's parents flew from Lebanon to Houston to attend their son's funeral after former President George H. W. Bush personally interceded with federal authorities to expedite their entry into the United States. The former president is reportedly outraged over the killing of Carnaby, a long time friend.
On May 21, 2008, WMR reported: "WMR has also learned that Carnaby was aware from US intelligence signals and human intelligence sources that the upcoming Memorial Day and Fourth of July holidays were going to see Condition Red security alerts issued by the Department of Homeland Security for the possibility of a domestic security incident.'"
On Memorial Day, May 26, a Continental Boeing 737 pilot said he saw an object with a flaming tail that left a smoke trail fly in front of the aircraft shortly after it took off from George Bush International Airport in Houston. The object neared Flight 1544 bound from Houston to Cleveland with 148 passengers.
Carnaby had routine access to George Bush International Airport and worked with the Joint Terrorism Task Force and the FBI's Counter-terrorism Center in Houston. He was known to be concerned about the laxity of the Department of Homeland Security in dealing with security threats in the Houston area, particularly the sea port.
The spin on the object that approached Flight 1544 -- it may have been a model rocket.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
Clouded in mystery ever since Houston police gunned him down in Houston's fashionable Galleria section on April 29, a few more details about former CIA Houston station chief Roland V. Carnaby are emerging.
WMR sources in Lebanon have informed us that the District Attorney for Harris County, Ken Magidson, who replaced Chuck Rosenthal who resigned last February after pornographic and racist emails were found on his work computer, is focusing his investigation of the Carnaby incident on the person within the Houston Police Department who issued the order to stop Carnaby.
The identity of that individual is known to the District Attorney and the scenario that played out on the morning of April 29 was the police official in question informed officers Andrew Washington and Cecil Foster that Carnaby was transporting weapons and ordered them to stop him. While Carnaby was trying to contact the FBI and Houston Police, he dropped his Blackberry and while trying to pick it up, the police officers opened fire on Carnaby thinking he was reaching for a weapon.
The individual who gave the order to stop Carnaby and informed the traffic officers that he was transporting weapons has been connected to an Israeli intelligence operation in Houston, an operation that was under investigation by Carnaby, according to our intelligence sources in Lebanon. The police official in question is under investigation but because of the sensitivity surrounding the involvement of Israelis, the inquiry is being kept low key.
Our sources in Lebanon have also confirmed that Carnaby's parents flew from Lebanon to Houston to attend their son's funeral after former President George H. W. Bush personally interceded with federal authorities to expedite their entry into the United States. The former president is reportedly outraged over the killing of Carnaby, a long time friend.
On May 21, 2008, WMR reported: "WMR has also learned that Carnaby was aware from US intelligence signals and human intelligence sources that the upcoming Memorial Day and Fourth of July holidays were going to see Condition Red security alerts issued by the Department of Homeland Security for the possibility of a domestic security incident.'"
On Memorial Day, May 26, a Continental Boeing 737 pilot said he saw an object with a flaming tail that left a smoke trail fly in front of the aircraft shortly after it took off from George Bush International Airport in Houston. The object neared Flight 1544 bound from Houston to Cleveland with 148 passengers.
Carnaby had routine access to George Bush International Airport and worked with the Joint Terrorism Task Force and the FBI's Counter-terrorism Center in Houston. He was known to be concerned about the laxity of the Department of Homeland Security in dealing with security threats in the Houston area, particularly the sea port.
The spin on the object that approached Flight 1544 -- it may have been a model rocket.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
May 23-25, 2008 -- Assassinated Houston CIA Station Chief and his hot-and-cold relationship with Israel
If anyone knew more about Israel's penetration of the top echelons of Houston's city government and police force it was the one-time CIA station chief on Houston, Roland Carnaby, gunned down on April 29 by the very same police department he counted as among his friends.
WMR has learned that Adrian Garcia, a former Houston police officer, former chief of the Mayor's Anti-Gang Task Force, and current chairman of the Public Safety and Homeland Security Committee as City Councilman, paid a trip to Israel during the last few months, a trip paid for by the city of Houston and known to Houston Mayor Bill White. Garcia is currently running for Sheriff of Harris County. The trip to Israel raised a few eyebrows in Houston but Garcia claimed it was necessary and requested by the city. Garcia is a past "consultant" for the US State Department on "policing programs" in Central America. Garcia's trip to Israel is not the only one funded by the city for Houston law enforcement officials.
Garcia is a strong proponent of the Houston police's red light cameras and tasers and it just so happens that Houston Police Chief Harold Hurtt purchased red light cameras and tasers from a firm in which Hurtt's wife has a significant financial interest, according to Houston law enforcement sources.
Although Carnaby counted many Israelis among his friends, he also reportedly believed that Austin Lebanese-Palestinian human rights campaigner Riad Hamad, found floating in Lady Bird Johnson Lake and bound by duct tape a few weeks before Carnaby was shot, was murdered. Austin police claimed Hamad died as the result of a suicide.
Carnaby was a frequent visitor to George Bush International Airport, where he often introduced Israeli security vendors and consultants to airport security officials, and NASA's Johnson Space Center.
Carnaby had recently been invited to speak at a testimonial dinner sponsored by a Houston Jewish organization honoring a longtime associate and business leader. Carnaby subsequently sent his regrets to the organizers.
WMR has also learned that while he worked under CIA Beirut Station Chief William F. Buckley in the 1980s, Carnaby, a native of New York City but the son of Lebanese residents in the United States, was held hostage by Shi'a militants for three days in Beirut. Carnaby's release was negotiated in a swap worked out by Buckley. However, Buckley, himself, was later taken hostage by Shi'a militants and was tortured and executed.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
If anyone knew more about Israel's penetration of the top echelons of Houston's city government and police force it was the one-time CIA station chief on Houston, Roland Carnaby, gunned down on April 29 by the very same police department he counted as among his friends.
WMR has learned that Adrian Garcia, a former Houston police officer, former chief of the Mayor's Anti-Gang Task Force, and current chairman of the Public Safety and Homeland Security Committee as City Councilman, paid a trip to Israel during the last few months, a trip paid for by the city of Houston and known to Houston Mayor Bill White. Garcia is currently running for Sheriff of Harris County. The trip to Israel raised a few eyebrows in Houston but Garcia claimed it was necessary and requested by the city. Garcia is a past "consultant" for the US State Department on "policing programs" in Central America. Garcia's trip to Israel is not the only one funded by the city for Houston law enforcement officials.
Garcia is a strong proponent of the Houston police's red light cameras and tasers and it just so happens that Houston Police Chief Harold Hurtt purchased red light cameras and tasers from a firm in which Hurtt's wife has a significant financial interest, according to Houston law enforcement sources.
Although Carnaby counted many Israelis among his friends, he also reportedly believed that Austin Lebanese-Palestinian human rights campaigner Riad Hamad, found floating in Lady Bird Johnson Lake and bound by duct tape a few weeks before Carnaby was shot, was murdered. Austin police claimed Hamad died as the result of a suicide.
Carnaby was a frequent visitor to George Bush International Airport, where he often introduced Israeli security vendors and consultants to airport security officials, and NASA's Johnson Space Center.
Carnaby had recently been invited to speak at a testimonial dinner sponsored by a Houston Jewish organization honoring a longtime associate and business leader. Carnaby subsequently sent his regrets to the organizers.
WMR has also learned that while he worked under CIA Beirut Station Chief William F. Buckley in the 1980s, Carnaby, a native of New York City but the son of Lebanese residents in the United States, was held hostage by Shi'a militants for three days in Beirut. Carnaby's release was negotiated in a swap worked out by Buckley. However, Buckley, himself, was later taken hostage by Shi'a militants and was tortured and executed.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
May 29, 2008 -- Houston police inventory of CIA agent's belongings incomplete and in error
WMR has obtained a copy of the Houston Police Department inventory of the belongings of one-time CIA Houston station chief Roland Carnaby that were impounded by the police after they shot him on April 29 in the Galleria section of Houston. The inventory is missing a number of items that were known to be in Carnaby's possession at the time of his shooting by Houston police. These items include his Mac notebook computer and an I-Phone.
Carnaby's Blackberry is not listed with a model or serial number and there is a notation that it is on "Special Hold." There is a fear that the Houston police may have compromised information on the Blackberry's SIM card, including previously called and calling phone numbers, as well as callers' identities.
There are also no serial numbers listed for the weapons taken from Carnaby's vehicle. WMR previously reported that the Houston police, infamous for placing "drop guns" at crime scenes, may have done so with Carnaby's vehicle after it was impounded. The lack of serial numbers on the inventory list means that the actual owner of the weapons in question remains unknown. Proper police procedures would have been to include all the relevant details of the weapons known to have been in Carnaby's possession on April 29, including manufacturer, model number, serial number, magazines, types of rounds, or spent casings. One federal law enforcement veteran stated, "I have never - never once seen an inventory in even an armed robbery case where the weapons were not completely identified and their serial numbers contained in the same line."
The cash Carnaby was carrying is spread throughout the inventory rather than being totaled in a single line item. A safety deposit box key is described as "sealed by CSU."
The Houston police inventory also lists Carnaby's CIA identification as a "CIA ID (fake)," itself a drastic departure from proper procedure and contrary to a number of US intelligence sources who contacted WMR. A "CIA medallion" is also listed. Carnaby's intelligence community colleagues are concerned about what information may have been removed from the Mac notebook's hard drive if it was not recovered intact and without compromiise by CIA personnel reportedly dispatched to deal with the Houston police after Carnaby's death.
A Bank of America checkbook is listed without the account number. Weapons and a number of ammunition shells are listed as "POD" or "Permanently Out to Division." This is an indication that the shot gun and pistols found in Carnaby's vehicle could be drop guns that will be planted at other crime scenes in the future. The fragment of a bullet that hit Carnaby is also suspiciously listed as "POD."
(snip)
WMR has also learned that a portfolio containing important papers that was in Carnaby's possession the morning he was killed is also missing from the police inventory.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
WMR has obtained a copy of the Houston Police Department inventory of the belongings of one-time CIA Houston station chief Roland Carnaby that were impounded by the police after they shot him on April 29 in the Galleria section of Houston. The inventory is missing a number of items that were known to be in Carnaby's possession at the time of his shooting by Houston police. These items include his Mac notebook computer and an I-Phone.
Carnaby's Blackberry is not listed with a model or serial number and there is a notation that it is on "Special Hold." There is a fear that the Houston police may have compromised information on the Blackberry's SIM card, including previously called and calling phone numbers, as well as callers' identities.
There are also no serial numbers listed for the weapons taken from Carnaby's vehicle. WMR previously reported that the Houston police, infamous for placing "drop guns" at crime scenes, may have done so with Carnaby's vehicle after it was impounded. The lack of serial numbers on the inventory list means that the actual owner of the weapons in question remains unknown. Proper police procedures would have been to include all the relevant details of the weapons known to have been in Carnaby's possession on April 29, including manufacturer, model number, serial number, magazines, types of rounds, or spent casings. One federal law enforcement veteran stated, "I have never - never once seen an inventory in even an armed robbery case where the weapons were not completely identified and their serial numbers contained in the same line."
The cash Carnaby was carrying is spread throughout the inventory rather than being totaled in a single line item. A safety deposit box key is described as "sealed by CSU."
The Houston police inventory also lists Carnaby's CIA identification as a "CIA ID (fake)," itself a drastic departure from proper procedure and contrary to a number of US intelligence sources who contacted WMR. A "CIA medallion" is also listed. Carnaby's intelligence community colleagues are concerned about what information may have been removed from the Mac notebook's hard drive if it was not recovered intact and without compromiise by CIA personnel reportedly dispatched to deal with the Houston police after Carnaby's death.
A Bank of America checkbook is listed without the account number. Weapons and a number of ammunition shells are listed as "POD" or "Permanently Out to Division." This is an indication that the shot gun and pistols found in Carnaby's vehicle could be drop guns that will be planted at other crime scenes in the future. The fragment of a bullet that hit Carnaby is also suspiciously listed as "POD."
(snip)
WMR has also learned that a portfolio containing important papers that was in Carnaby's possession the morning he was killed is also missing from the police inventory.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
June 10-11, 2008 -- Houston police disposes of critical evidence in Carnaby shooting
The city of Houston's counsel revealed in open court on May 23, 2008, that it disposed and dispersed critical evidence in the case of the April 29, 2008 shooting death by two Houston police officers of one-time CIA Southeast Region station chief Roland "Tony" Carnaby. Among the items is Carnaby's Mac laptop computer, which Houston's counsel said was turned over to the U.S. Secret Service. However, WMR has learned that the Houston police took back possession of the laptop from the Secret Service.
A motion to amend the evidence preservation order and inventory documents and items in Carnaby's possession at the time of his death was filed by Randall Kallinen, the attorney for Susan Carnaby, the slain CIA agent's widow, who is suing the city of Houston and the two police officers in federal court for the wrongful death of Carnaby. In a June 2, 2008, letter from L. A. Teehan, Senior Assistant Houston attorney to Kallinen, the city refuses to abide by the plaintiff's request to preserve Carnaby's property as evidence. On June 9, 2008, US Judge Keith Ellison ordered the city to respond within 10 days to the motion by Mrs. Carnaby's attorney.
Kallinen's motion also cites the city's failure to preserve "videotapes and audiotapes of the chase and shooting, records of the phone call" Carnaby "made after the chase ended and the critical CIA evaluations of Carnaby's CIA identifications."
The motion also states:
"During daylight hours on April 29, 2008, the Houston Police Department stopped Roland Carnaby, 52, for speeding in the south of Houston, Texas. In his vehicle Roland had sensitive information in his laptop computer and elsewhere regarding his national security interest investigations. Roland showed the officer his identification and the officer checked Roland’s background via the HPD squad car computers. The officer at the scene learned Roland’s address and that Roland had passed the rigorous requirements to obtain a Texas concealed handgun permit and that Roland had never been convicted or even arrested for a crime and had no warrants for his arrest. The officers at the scene were told by an HPD superior to arrest Roland 'for something' which would entail impounding the vehicle and its contents including the laptop computer with the sensitive security data entrusted to Roland.
Roland knew that arrest means jailing without the ability to communicate to anyone for many hours and that vehicle contents are often stolen from impound lots and police property rooms. Roland then drove off and a police chase ensued. Despite the knowledge of Roland’s exemplary background and home address HPD chased Roland at high speeds through Houston’s streets and highways endangering any man, woman or child that they passed. At no time during the pursuit did Roland display a weapon or attempt to hit any police officer with his vehicle.
During the chase the Federal Bureau of Investigation contacted HPD, confirmed Roland Carnaby’s status and asked HPD to call off the chase. HPD refused. Roland came to stop. With full knowledge of Roland’s background as set forth above police attacked the vehicle with nightsticks and weapons drawn shouting for Roland to get out smashing in the passenger window. When Roland complied by getting out of the SUV an officer slammed Roland with the SUV door. Two Houston Police officers, Cecil Foster and Andrew J. Washington, shot at Roland Carnaby striking him in the lower back when they were not in objectively reasonable fear of their lives or the lives of another. Instead of administering any aid to the gunshot wound(s) the HPD officers handcuffed Roland and left him lying face down on the street. When Houston paramedics arrived at least twelve minutes later they did not take Roland to the nearest emergency room--Roland was fully covered by medical insurance --but to Ben Taub Hospital ten miles away through busy Houston streets."
WMR has learned that the Houston police official who refused to call off the chase after the FBI confirmed Carnaby's CIA status is under investigation by federal authorities and is suspected of being an Israeli intelligence mole within the Houston Police Department.
WMR has learned from U.S. intelligence sources who worked with Carnaby that he was "going after the alternate U.S. military chain-of-command" that WMR previously reported was attempting to launch the United States into a war with Iran last August when nuclear cruise missiles were ordered moved to the Middle East theater but aborted by the Pentagon and Joint Chiefs of Staff. More recently, the alternate chain of command attempted an assassination of Lebanese Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, another move that was aborted before it would have touched off a widespread regional war in the Middle East involving Israel and the United States against Hezbollah, Syria, Shia forces in Iraq, and Iran.
Carnaby's colleagues told WMR that Carnaby was frustrated by "gatekeepers" preventing him from getting critical intelligence concerning the alternate chain of command to top levels of the CIA. WMR was told by a Carnaby CIA associate in Lebanon that he was also being blocked by a Marine Corps officer "gatekeeper" in getting critical intelligence to CIA director Michael Hayden. The source in Lebanon said that Carnaby's assassination by the Houston police and Israeli moles in the department was part of a drastic operation that could affect the national security of the United States and the outcome of the upcoming U.S. presidential election. Carnaby, WMR has learned, was concerned that those elements that he opposed were going to make their move before "Bush left office."
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
The city of Houston's counsel revealed in open court on May 23, 2008, that it disposed and dispersed critical evidence in the case of the April 29, 2008 shooting death by two Houston police officers of one-time CIA Southeast Region station chief Roland "Tony" Carnaby. Among the items is Carnaby's Mac laptop computer, which Houston's counsel said was turned over to the U.S. Secret Service. However, WMR has learned that the Houston police took back possession of the laptop from the Secret Service.
A motion to amend the evidence preservation order and inventory documents and items in Carnaby's possession at the time of his death was filed by Randall Kallinen, the attorney for Susan Carnaby, the slain CIA agent's widow, who is suing the city of Houston and the two police officers in federal court for the wrongful death of Carnaby. In a June 2, 2008, letter from L. A. Teehan, Senior Assistant Houston attorney to Kallinen, the city refuses to abide by the plaintiff's request to preserve Carnaby's property as evidence. On June 9, 2008, US Judge Keith Ellison ordered the city to respond within 10 days to the motion by Mrs. Carnaby's attorney.
Kallinen's motion also cites the city's failure to preserve "videotapes and audiotapes of the chase and shooting, records of the phone call" Carnaby "made after the chase ended and the critical CIA evaluations of Carnaby's CIA identifications."
The motion also states:
"During daylight hours on April 29, 2008, the Houston Police Department stopped Roland Carnaby, 52, for speeding in the south of Houston, Texas. In his vehicle Roland had sensitive information in his laptop computer and elsewhere regarding his national security interest investigations. Roland showed the officer his identification and the officer checked Roland’s background via the HPD squad car computers. The officer at the scene learned Roland’s address and that Roland had passed the rigorous requirements to obtain a Texas concealed handgun permit and that Roland had never been convicted or even arrested for a crime and had no warrants for his arrest. The officers at the scene were told by an HPD superior to arrest Roland 'for something' which would entail impounding the vehicle and its contents including the laptop computer with the sensitive security data entrusted to Roland.
Roland knew that arrest means jailing without the ability to communicate to anyone for many hours and that vehicle contents are often stolen from impound lots and police property rooms. Roland then drove off and a police chase ensued. Despite the knowledge of Roland’s exemplary background and home address HPD chased Roland at high speeds through Houston’s streets and highways endangering any man, woman or child that they passed. At no time during the pursuit did Roland display a weapon or attempt to hit any police officer with his vehicle.
During the chase the Federal Bureau of Investigation contacted HPD, confirmed Roland Carnaby’s status and asked HPD to call off the chase. HPD refused. Roland came to stop. With full knowledge of Roland’s background as set forth above police attacked the vehicle with nightsticks and weapons drawn shouting for Roland to get out smashing in the passenger window. When Roland complied by getting out of the SUV an officer slammed Roland with the SUV door. Two Houston Police officers, Cecil Foster and Andrew J. Washington, shot at Roland Carnaby striking him in the lower back when they were not in objectively reasonable fear of their lives or the lives of another. Instead of administering any aid to the gunshot wound(s) the HPD officers handcuffed Roland and left him lying face down on the street. When Houston paramedics arrived at least twelve minutes later they did not take Roland to the nearest emergency room--Roland was fully covered by medical insurance --but to Ben Taub Hospital ten miles away through busy Houston streets."
WMR has learned that the Houston police official who refused to call off the chase after the FBI confirmed Carnaby's CIA status is under investigation by federal authorities and is suspected of being an Israeli intelligence mole within the Houston Police Department.
WMR has learned from U.S. intelligence sources who worked with Carnaby that he was "going after the alternate U.S. military chain-of-command" that WMR previously reported was attempting to launch the United States into a war with Iran last August when nuclear cruise missiles were ordered moved to the Middle East theater but aborted by the Pentagon and Joint Chiefs of Staff. More recently, the alternate chain of command attempted an assassination of Lebanese Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, another move that was aborted before it would have touched off a widespread regional war in the Middle East involving Israel and the United States against Hezbollah, Syria, Shia forces in Iraq, and Iran.
Carnaby's colleagues told WMR that Carnaby was frustrated by "gatekeepers" preventing him from getting critical intelligence concerning the alternate chain of command to top levels of the CIA. WMR was told by a Carnaby CIA associate in Lebanon that he was also being blocked by a Marine Corps officer "gatekeeper" in getting critical intelligence to CIA director Michael Hayden. The source in Lebanon said that Carnaby's assassination by the Houston police and Israeli moles in the department was part of a drastic operation that could affect the national security of the United States and the outcome of the upcoming U.S. presidential election. Carnaby, WMR has learned, was concerned that those elements that he opposed were going to make their move before "Bush left office."
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
June 11-12, 2008 -- New details emerge about assassinated CIA agent in Houston
WMR has learned that one-time CIA Southeast Region station chief Roland "Tony" Carnaby, gunned down by the Houston police on April 29, had strained relations with CIA director General Michael Hayden. Carnaby, who was a close friend of former CIA director George Tenet, complained about Hayden's stewardship of the CIA. When Carnaby was shot by the Houston police, Hayden made no effort to provide intelligence cover for the slain agent, permitting dubious media stories, including a number in the Houston Chronicle, to advance the notion that Carnaby was a phony CIA officer lacking legitimate bona fide credentials.
There is a widespread feeling throughout the Intelligence Community that when Defense Secretary Robert Gates realized there was a second chain-of-command operating through the aegis of the Air Force he fired two of its principals, Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne and Air Force Chief of Staff T. Michael "Buzz' Moseley and has targeted other military and civilian officials for dismissal. However, there is one Air Force General whose own role in the alternate chain-of-command has largely escaped scrutiny, General Hayden at the CIA. WMR has learned rather than having Hayden resign he has been ordered to officially retire from the Air Force and remove his uniform effective July 1. It is believed that Hayden will be less prone to carry out orders from Vice President Dick Cheney's office if he is no longer on active duty and subject to the military chain-of-command.
WMR has also discovered additional information about Carnaby's CIA past. In addition to "Tony" Carnaby, he used two other aliases, "Tony Montana" and "Tony Luciano." In addition to Tenet, Carnaby was often seen socializing in Washington, DC with the late FBI Assistant Director John O'Neill, killed in the collapse of the World Trade Center on 9/11. One of their favorite hangouts was the "back bar" at Old Ebbit's Grill on 15th Street in Washington, across from the Treasury Department and a block from the White House. Carnaby and O'Neill were well known to the bartenders at Ebbit's.
During an intelligence-related meeting at a hotel in Tyson's Corner, Virginia, Carnaby was warmly greeted by a number of top CIA officials, including an old friend, the CIA's director of recruitment who was called out of retirement after 9/11.
It has also been learned that US Judge Keith Ellison is growing increasingly suspicious of the behavior of the Houston police in the civil lawsuit brought by Carnaby's wife, Susan, against the city and the two Houston police officers who shot Carnaby. Ellison wants to know why the Houston police returned the two police officers to active duty and they were given back the very same guns used to shoot Carnaby, weapons that should be treated as protected evidence in the case.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
WMR has learned that one-time CIA Southeast Region station chief Roland "Tony" Carnaby, gunned down by the Houston police on April 29, had strained relations with CIA director General Michael Hayden. Carnaby, who was a close friend of former CIA director George Tenet, complained about Hayden's stewardship of the CIA. When Carnaby was shot by the Houston police, Hayden made no effort to provide intelligence cover for the slain agent, permitting dubious media stories, including a number in the Houston Chronicle, to advance the notion that Carnaby was a phony CIA officer lacking legitimate bona fide credentials.
There is a widespread feeling throughout the Intelligence Community that when Defense Secretary Robert Gates realized there was a second chain-of-command operating through the aegis of the Air Force he fired two of its principals, Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne and Air Force Chief of Staff T. Michael "Buzz' Moseley and has targeted other military and civilian officials for dismissal. However, there is one Air Force General whose own role in the alternate chain-of-command has largely escaped scrutiny, General Hayden at the CIA. WMR has learned rather than having Hayden resign he has been ordered to officially retire from the Air Force and remove his uniform effective July 1. It is believed that Hayden will be less prone to carry out orders from Vice President Dick Cheney's office if he is no longer on active duty and subject to the military chain-of-command.
WMR has also discovered additional information about Carnaby's CIA past. In addition to "Tony" Carnaby, he used two other aliases, "Tony Montana" and "Tony Luciano." In addition to Tenet, Carnaby was often seen socializing in Washington, DC with the late FBI Assistant Director John O'Neill, killed in the collapse of the World Trade Center on 9/11. One of their favorite hangouts was the "back bar" at Old Ebbit's Grill on 15th Street in Washington, across from the Treasury Department and a block from the White House. Carnaby and O'Neill were well known to the bartenders at Ebbit's.
During an intelligence-related meeting at a hotel in Tyson's Corner, Virginia, Carnaby was warmly greeted by a number of top CIA officials, including an old friend, the CIA's director of recruitment who was called out of retirement after 9/11.
It has also been learned that US Judge Keith Ellison is growing increasingly suspicious of the behavior of the Houston police in the civil lawsuit brought by Carnaby's wife, Susan, against the city and the two Houston police officers who shot Carnaby. Ellison wants to know why the Houston police returned the two police officers to active duty and they were given back the very same guns used to shoot Carnaby, weapons that should be treated as protected evidence in the case.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
QUOTE (Eyeswideopen @ Jun 12 2008, 10:51 AM)
In addition to "Tony" Carnaby, he used two other aliases, "Tony Montana" and "Tony Luciano."
Say hello to my little friend!
This is what happens when you have a Dictator masquerading as the Presidnet of the supposedly free world.
Man...they closed that file with no investigation.
I've been collecting everything on Carnaby, too. So are a lot of people in Texas.
Did the man know something about the next 9/11 in Houston? A refinery? I also read Russian intel said he was tied to the 'suicided Madame' case. But that seems a bit farfetched. However, it seems TEXAS has become a hot spot for intelligencia these days. Like inside 'factions against factions'. That much is very understandable, since we have a rogue government vs. intelligence agents.
A media black out here as well.
I've been collecting everything on Carnaby, too. So are a lot of people in Texas.
Did the man know something about the next 9/11 in Houston? A refinery? I also read Russian intel said he was tied to the 'suicided Madame' case. But that seems a bit farfetched. However, it seems TEXAS has become a hot spot for intelligencia these days. Like inside 'factions against factions'. That much is very understandable, since we have a rogue government vs. intelligence agents.
A media black out here as well.
QUOTE
Carnaby's colleagues told WMR that Carnaby was frustrated by "gatekeepers" preventing him from getting critical intelligence concerning the alternate chain of command to top levels of the CIA. WMR was told by a Carnaby CIA associate in Lebanon that he was also being blocked by a Marine Corps officer "gatekeeper" in getting critical intelligence to CIA director Michael Hayden.
QUOTE
WMR has learned that one-time CIA Southeast Region station chief Roland "Tony" Carnaby, gunned down by the Houston police on April 29, had strained relations with CIA director General Michael Hayden. Carnaby, who was a close friend of former CIA director George Tenet, complained about Hayden's stewardship of the CIA. When Carnaby was shot by the Houston police, Hayden made no effort to provide intelligence cover for the slain agent, permitting dubious media stories, including a number in the Houston Chronicle, to advance the notion that Carnaby was a phony CIA officer lacking legitimate bona fide credentials.
However, there is one Air Force General whose own role in the alternate chain-of-command has largely escaped scrutiny, General Hayden at the CIA. WMR has learned rather than having Hayden resign he has been ordered to officially retire from the Air Force and remove his uniform effective July 1. It is believed that Hayden will be less prone to carry out orders from Vice President Dick Cheney's office if he is no longer on active duty and subject to the military chain-of-command.
However, there is one Air Force General whose own role in the alternate chain-of-command has largely escaped scrutiny, General Hayden at the CIA. WMR has learned rather than having Hayden resign he has been ordered to officially retire from the Air Force and remove his uniform effective July 1. It is believed that Hayden will be less prone to carry out orders from Vice President Dick Cheney's office if he is no longer on active duty and subject to the military chain-of-command.
The stories are contradictory.
QUOTE (Tagline @ Jun 12 2008, 04:39 PM)
The stories are contradictory.
How?
QUOTE
WMR has learned from U.S. intelligence sources who worked with Carnaby that he was "going after the alternate U.S. military chain-of-command" that WMR previously reported was attempting to launch the United States into a war with Iran last August when nuclear cruise missiles were ordered moved to the Middle East theater but aborted by the Pentagon and Joint Chiefs of Staff.
If Hayden is in the "alternate chain-of-command" and had a strained relationship with Carnaby then what good would it do for Carnaby to get critical intelligence to Hayden?
QUOTE (Tagline @ Jun 12 2008, 04:29 PM)
If Hayden is in the "alternate chain-of-command" and had a strained relationship with Carnaby then what good would it do for Carnaby to get critical intelligence to Hayden?
I agree...Carnaby was savvy enough to know HAYDEN is a neo con loyal to Cheney.
I suspect...Carnaby being covert ops...was really trying to get ahold of Steve "The Great Santini" Kappes....who...was fired by Goss after Tenet was mysteriously fired despite the fact that "Tenet was a good soldier who cooked the Iraqi intel...or at least remained silent during the cooking of the intel".
Tenet...still doesn't have a clue how or why he was axed for GOSS?
Goss Fired Steve Kappes and other covert ops bulls.
Then...Kappes and his buddies got revenge (like I said they would) about 18 months later when the GOP House page pederast info came to light? That was a scandal that was expertly covered up by MSM and the worthless punk Democrats who now have majority in House and Senate.
Kappes also made sure the DC Madam phone call records (hinting at videotape) of Cheney, Spector, so many others...........came out. ABC would not run the phone call records.
Cheney escaped that scandal....very similar to the Eliot Spitzer neutralization.
So...why would Carnaby be going to Hayden?
Most likely...Carnaby knew Kappes...and was trying to get a hold of him.
Kappes is a real wildcard for Bush and Cheney. They know he and his pals....play the game real well and have all the dirt they need to stay alive, and also influence what happens.
I would not be surprised if HAYDEN has been flipped.
They got him dirty on THE CHRISTINA MOORE MURDER when NSA 902nd Counterintel Group (while Hayden was NSA Director) sent the CALEA computerized wiretap info (SIGINT) to Austin lawyer WHITTINGTON, who gave it to the NSA TSP merc's who were seen outside Moore's home (see police sketchs of unindicted coconspirators).
I know.....because the same mercs were sent after me.
I realized how they work (CALEA wiretap, pin hole spy cameras, goons, GPS tracking device) and....showed Sioux FAlls FBI and Austin FBI how "they could work the case and solve it within the amount of time it takes an FBI agent to drive to the telecomm provider's main terminal where the hard disc memorizes all warrantless wiretapping with the phone number archived showing "who was listening without warrants".
Notice: TELECOMM COMPANIES and CHENEY all tried to get "civil immunity" for their crimes?
That occurred...after Cheney read my posts...showing all the crimes and all the evidence was in easy reach of any cop, prosecutor, FBI agent, SEcurity director, MOSSAD HACKERS known to write software for CALEA, and also known to have hacked CALEA to cover their ecstasy rings.
They got him dirty on THE CHRISTINA MOORE MURDER when NSA 902nd Counterintel Group (while Hayden was NSA Director) sent the CALEA computerized wiretap info (SIGINT) to Austin lawyer WHITTINGTON, who gave it to the NSA TSP merc's who were seen outside Moore's home (see police sketchs of unindicted coconspirators).
I know.....because the same mercs were sent after me.
I realized how they work (CALEA wiretap, pin hole spy cameras, goons, GPS tracking device) and....showed Sioux FAlls FBI and Austin FBI how "they could work the case and solve it within the amount of time it takes an FBI agent to drive to the telecomm provider's main terminal where the hard disc memorizes all warrantless wiretapping with the phone number archived showing "who was listening without warrants".
Notice: TELECOMM COMPANIES and CHENEY all tried to get "civil immunity" for their crimes?
That occurred...after Cheney read my posts...showing all the crimes and all the evidence was in easy reach of any cop, prosecutor, FBI agent, SEcurity director, MOSSAD HACKERS known to write software for CALEA, and also known to have hacked CALEA to cover their ecstasy rings.
QUOTE (Morgan @ Jun 12 2008, 02:34 PM)
Man...they closed that file with no investigation.
I've been collecting everything on Carnaby, too. So are a lot of people in Texas.
Did the man know something about the next 9/11 in Houston? A refinery? I also read Russian intel said he was tied to the 'suicided Madame' case. But that seems a bit farfetched. However, it seems TEXAS has become a hot spot for intelligencia these days. Like inside 'factions against factions'. That much is very understandable, since we have a rogue government vs. intelligence agents.
A media black out here as well.
I've been collecting everything on Carnaby, too. So are a lot of people in Texas.
Did the man know something about the next 9/11 in Houston? A refinery? I also read Russian intel said he was tied to the 'suicided Madame' case. But that seems a bit farfetched. However, it seems TEXAS has become a hot spot for intelligencia these days. Like inside 'factions against factions'. That much is very understandable, since we have a rogue government vs. intelligence agents.
A media black out here as well.
TEXAS is full of spooks.
TEXAS is where a christian pregnant housewife named CHRISTINA MOORE was murdered with NSA SIGINT using CALEA computerized interface linking telecomm companies to "civil suit liability" for murders, torture, stalking, harassment, extortion,.....A MAFIA RICO FELONY CONSPIRACY .
QUOTE (Eyeswideopen @ May 15 2008, 02:00 PM)
This was the same site that you referenced with your misleading and misinformative anti-Israeli post of yesterday. Do you have a reputable link or is this story as bogus as the last one?
QUOTE (TammyStickers @ Jun 13 2008, 01:58 PM)
This was the same site that you referenced with your misleading and misinformative anti-Israeli post of yesterday. Do you have a reputable link or is this story as bogus as the last one?
First of all the post was NOT anti-Israeli, anymore than posts about the crimes of the Bush/Cheney cabal are anti-American.
Second, if you think I posted "misleading or misinformative" information, prove it. What evidence do have to prove your allegation? If you have none, then you are welcome to your opinion, for what it is worth, but you are not welcome to imply deception on my part.
What "reputable link" do you have to prove the story is bogus?
June 13-15, 2008 -- Carnaby was master of Arabic dialects and disguises
Roland V. "Tony" Carnaby, the CIA agent killed by Houston police on April 29, was a frequent user of the CIA disguises designed and developed by Antonio (Tony) and Jonna Mendez, both of whom served as the CIA's "masters of disguise." The husband and wife team are co-authors of the book "Spy Dust: Two Masters of Disguise Reveal the Tools & Operations That Helped Win the Cold War." They also spoke at the Association for Intelligence Officers gala event in Houston on Sept. 1, 2007, an event presided over by Carnaby. Tony, known as "Q" within the CIA, and Jonna were close friends of Carnaby.
Carnaby, according to US intelligence sources, was a user of the Mendezes disguises, particularly in the Middle East. On one occasion, Carnaby was dressed as a Jordanian street cleaner in Amman while surveilling a target. Carnaby spoke the Jordanian dialect of Arabic perfectly. A few hours later, the "street cleaner" was clad in a blue blazer and sun glasses in Amman, operating under U.S. intelligence cover.
In addition to speaking Arabic dialects, including Levantine, Egyptian, and Yemeni, Carnaby could also speak fluent Hebrew and he maintained close links to Israeli intelligence agents and assets abroad and in Houston. He was concerned that as with "two CIAs," there was also "two Mossads" in operation, one official and the other a dangerous rogue operation.
WMR has also discovered that Carnaby's Texas Concealed Handgun License denoted the category "SA," meaning "Special Agent," a code that appears on the permits of law enforcement and intelligence officers in Texas, including CIA, FBI, Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) agents. The Houston police who stopped Carnaby clearly saw this code on his permit.
We have also learned that Carnaby worked in Laos during the Indochina conflict with long-time CIA clandestine agent Ted Shackley. It is believed by some of his CIA colleagues that Carnaby's age was older than his reported 52. It is common for CIA agents to claim different ages to avoid identification from public records.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
Roland V. "Tony" Carnaby, the CIA agent killed by Houston police on April 29, was a frequent user of the CIA disguises designed and developed by Antonio (Tony) and Jonna Mendez, both of whom served as the CIA's "masters of disguise." The husband and wife team are co-authors of the book "Spy Dust: Two Masters of Disguise Reveal the Tools & Operations That Helped Win the Cold War." They also spoke at the Association for Intelligence Officers gala event in Houston on Sept. 1, 2007, an event presided over by Carnaby. Tony, known as "Q" within the CIA, and Jonna were close friends of Carnaby.
Carnaby, according to US intelligence sources, was a user of the Mendezes disguises, particularly in the Middle East. On one occasion, Carnaby was dressed as a Jordanian street cleaner in Amman while surveilling a target. Carnaby spoke the Jordanian dialect of Arabic perfectly. A few hours later, the "street cleaner" was clad in a blue blazer and sun glasses in Amman, operating under U.S. intelligence cover.
In addition to speaking Arabic dialects, including Levantine, Egyptian, and Yemeni, Carnaby could also speak fluent Hebrew and he maintained close links to Israeli intelligence agents and assets abroad and in Houston. He was concerned that as with "two CIAs," there was also "two Mossads" in operation, one official and the other a dangerous rogue operation.
WMR has also discovered that Carnaby's Texas Concealed Handgun License denoted the category "SA," meaning "Special Agent," a code that appears on the permits of law enforcement and intelligence officers in Texas, including CIA, FBI, Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) agents. The Houston police who stopped Carnaby clearly saw this code on his permit.
We have also learned that Carnaby worked in Laos during the Indochina conflict with long-time CIA clandestine agent Ted Shackley. It is believed by some of his CIA colleagues that Carnaby's age was older than his reported 52. It is common for CIA agents to claim different ages to avoid identification from public records.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
Youhave to ask yourself, why him?
Maybe some really revealing financial support coming from Israeli Intelligence? Did they fund the supposed enemies in order to gain entry into Lebanon? Were they funding some back door invasion of the US and blaming it on Al Qaida, or whoever? Or was this a joint effort with the cheney dictatorship, to stir up the waters here and in the ME? Are they planning a false flag invasion in Houston?
What the heck is going on here?
I am just asking questions.
Maybe some really revealing financial support coming from Israeli Intelligence? Did they fund the supposed enemies in order to gain entry into Lebanon? Were they funding some back door invasion of the US and blaming it on Al Qaida, or whoever? Or was this a joint effort with the cheney dictatorship, to stir up the waters here and in the ME? Are they planning a false flag invasion in Houston?
What the heck is going on here?
I am just asking questions.
QUOTE (gabriel777 @ Jun 13 2008, 04:09 PM)
1) You have to ask yourself, why him?
2) Maybe some really revealing financial support coming from Israeli Intelligence?
3) Did they fund the supposed enemies in order to gain entry into Lebanon?
4) Were they funding some back door invasion of the US and blaming it on Al Qaida, or whoever?
5) Or was this a joint effort with the cheney dictatorship, to stir up the waters here and in the ME?
6) Are they planning a false flag invasion in Houston?
7) What the heck is going on here?
I am just asking questions.
2) Maybe some really revealing financial support coming from Israeli Intelligence?
3) Did they fund the supposed enemies in order to gain entry into Lebanon?
4) Were they funding some back door invasion of the US and blaming it on Al Qaida, or whoever?
5) Or was this a joint effort with the cheney dictatorship, to stir up the waters here and in the ME?
6) Are they planning a false flag invasion in Houston?
7) What the heck is going on here?
I am just asking questions.
_________________________________
1) Why Carnaby? He was stopping false flag. He was looking at MOSSAD murder of Austin activist....who was also linked to Carnaby?
2) Wouldn't be the first MOSSAD hit ran through fronts.
3)
4) Carnaby was livid about lax security at Houston area refinery. That might have been one false flag that was averted. US Intel Community is divided...........and at war.
That war was hinted at in the headlines:
--TENET FIRED, REPLACED BY GOSS....GOSS FIRES STEVE KAPPES AND OTHER COVERT OPS BULLS.
--HOUSE PAGE PEDOPHILE SCANDAL....a tip of the iceberg.
--DC Madam...phone list...videotape...CIA...Foggo...Duke, Wilkes...etc.
--Kappes gets his job back after GOSS RESIGNS AFTER 18 months?
5) Fair to say...Carnaby was in possession of dangerous info.
6) Could be Houston refinery. Recently MSM had a story on RUMSFIELD being quoted as saying, "....we haven't had any terrorism lately, can't we do something about that".
7) Nobody has a clue....what is going on. Minot nuke....triggers in Taiwan...Gates fires Air Force....CHENEY AND RUMSFIELD know they got alot of legal problems in the future.........and need FALSE FLAG TERRORISM TO GO TO PHASE TWO OF THE MARSHALL LAW POLICE STATE.
THAT IS THE ONLY WAY....CHENEY AND RUMSFIELD AVOIDS FED DEATH ROW FOR THEIR PATRIOT ACT MURDERS OF CHRISTINA MOORE, RICH GORDON, DEFENBAUGH, KABIESEMAN, NELSON in North Dakota.
Dick has future problems.....with NSA Calea wiretaps.
Dick has prison with Rumsfield soon enough............and not enough bullets or hitmen to whack out all the witnesses which include FBI agents.....
June 14-15, 2008 -- Carnaby was on to something very big
Now that this editor successfully traveled to Houston and is now safely en route back to Washington, successfully bypassing the illegal searches of Michael Chertoff's Washington,DC-based agents, I can report that a sense of fear permeates Houston about the vulnerability of the metropolitan area's ports, ship channel, and airports. Slain retired CIA agent Roland "Tony" Carnaby and his Association for Intelligence Officers (AFIO) colleagues, some of whom I met and spoke to in Houston and are, like Carnaby, ex-CIA, are convinced that the Houston area is vulnerable to another 9/11-like incident, definitely before George W. Bush leaves office and possibly around the time of the upcoming Independence Day holiday weekend.
Carnaby was shot by the Houston police after a high-speed chase on April 29. And for the first time, WMR can report that Carnaby's and his colleagues' concerns about the security of Houston and a "false flag" attack are shared by former President George H. W. Bush and his closest ex-intelligence community colleagues.
Story developing.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
Now that this editor successfully traveled to Houston and is now safely en route back to Washington, successfully bypassing the illegal searches of Michael Chertoff's Washington,DC-based agents, I can report that a sense of fear permeates Houston about the vulnerability of the metropolitan area's ports, ship channel, and airports. Slain retired CIA agent Roland "Tony" Carnaby and his Association for Intelligence Officers (AFIO) colleagues, some of whom I met and spoke to in Houston and are, like Carnaby, ex-CIA, are convinced that the Houston area is vulnerable to another 9/11-like incident, definitely before George W. Bush leaves office and possibly around the time of the upcoming Independence Day holiday weekend.
Carnaby was shot by the Houston police after a high-speed chase on April 29. And for the first time, WMR can report that Carnaby's and his colleagues' concerns about the security of Houston and a "false flag" attack are shared by former President George H. W. Bush and his closest ex-intelligence community colleagues.
Story developing.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
QUOTE (Eyeswideopen @ Jun 13 2008, 03:30 PM)
First of all the post was NOT anti-Israeli, anymore than posts about the crimes of the Bush/Cheney cabal are anti-American.
Second, if you think I posted "misleading or misinformative" information, prove it. What evidence do have to prove your allegation? If you have none, then you are welcome to your opinion, for what it is worth, but you are not welcome to imply deception on my part.
What "reputable link" do you have to prove the story is bogus?
Second, if you think I posted "misleading or misinformative" information, prove it. What evidence do have to prove your allegation? If you have none, then you are welcome to your opinion, for what it is worth, but you are not welcome to imply deception on my part.
What "reputable link" do you have to prove the story is bogus?
First of all, it is not up to me to provide a reputable link proving your post false. It is up to you to provide a reputable link proving your post true. The burden of proof is on you, not me.
Second, I pointed out in the last post that I saw that referenced http://www.waynemadsenreport.com, that the actual story little releationship with the story posted on http://www.waynemadsenreport.com. On http://www.waynemadsenreport.com, the claim was a link between Israel and 9/11 while the actual story on reputable news sites showed that there was no link what-so-ever between Israel and 9/11.
As I said, if you can find reputable sites to support allegations, you should include those in your posts. If you can't, then you probably shouldn't subject us to your post at all.
I'm sorry if I've gotten you upset. Perhaps you have a reason why you don't feel that you need to justify your claims with reputable links. If so, I would be thrilled to listen to your reasoning.
QUOTE (TammyStickers @ Jun 16 2008, 08:57 AM)
As I said, if you can find reputable sites to support allegations, you should include those in your posts. If you can't, then you probably shouldn't subject us to your post at all.
I thought Wayne Madsen did as well as he could....when he covered the Carnaby assasination.
Look at the YOUTUBE video of this street assasination.
Madsen talked to Carnaby's friends...and family. He fleshed out the story as well as he could.
Madsen was the only reporter....who actually got up and flew to Houston. That says alot....especially when no other reporter did deep background on Carnaby to refute the Police State Lie--"...Carnaby was a junior James Bond wannebe with fake ID, and was a delusional personality disorder....".
QUOTE (thomasBean @ Jun 16 2008, 01:21 PM)
I thought Wayne Madsen did as well as he could....when he covered the Carnaby assasination.
Look at the YOUTUBE video of this street assasination.
Madsen talked to Carnaby's friends...and family. He fleshed out the story as well as he could.
Madsen was the only reporter....who actually got up and flew to Houston. That says alot....especially when no other reporter did deep background on Carnaby to refute the Police State Lie--"...Carnaby was a junior James Bond wannebe with fake ID, and was a delusional personality disorder....".
Look at the YOUTUBE video of this street assasination.
Madsen talked to Carnaby's friends...and family. He fleshed out the story as well as he could.
Madsen was the only reporter....who actually got up and flew to Houston. That says alot....especially when no other reporter did deep background on Carnaby to refute the Police State Lie--"...Carnaby was a junior James Bond wannebe with fake ID, and was a delusional personality disorder....".
Still no reputable link. Just one guy making claims.
You don't know that Madsen was the "only reporter". You just have his word. You don't know that he "got up and flew to Houston". You just have his word. You don't know anything except that someone who has been proven unreliable before is making unsubstantiated claims which not one of his supporters can find any evidence for.
Maybe he is right, but intelligent people require proof or some strong evidence before flying off the deep end. I've seen documentaries on UFOs and the Bermuda triangle which sounded convincing until you discover that they are just making things up.
QUOTE (TammyStickers @ Jun 16 2008, 09:57 AM)
First of all, it is not up to me to provide a reputable link proving your post false. It is up to you to provide a reputable link proving your post true. The burden of proof is on you, not me.
Second, I pointed out in the last post that I saw that referenced http://www.waynemadsenreport.com, that the actual story little releationship with the story posted on http://www.waynemadsenreport.com. On http://www.waynemadsenreport.com, the claim was a link between Israel and 9/11 while the actual story on reputable news sites showed that there was no link what-so-ever between Israel and 9/11.
As I said, if you can find reputable sites to support allegations, you should include those in your posts. If you can't, then you probably shouldn't subject us to your post at all.
I'm sorry if I've gotten you upset. Perhaps you have a reason why you don't feel that you need to justify your claims with reputable links. If so, I would be thrilled to listen to your reasoning.
Second, I pointed out in the last post that I saw that referenced http://www.waynemadsenreport.com, that the actual story little releationship with the story posted on http://www.waynemadsenreport.com. On http://www.waynemadsenreport.com, the claim was a link between Israel and 9/11 while the actual story on reputable news sites showed that there was no link what-so-ever between Israel and 9/11.
As I said, if you can find reputable sites to support allegations, you should include those in your posts. If you can't, then you probably shouldn't subject us to your post at all.
I'm sorry if I've gotten you upset. Perhaps you have a reason why you don't feel that you need to justify your claims with reputable links. If so, I would be thrilled to listen to your reasoning.
Tammy, I am sharing information with the message board. If you do not find it helpful or instructive, then why not skip it? But no. You wish to stop the message coming from the messenger. It is your attempt to censor the information and prevent the message board from knowing about the information posted by Madsen and others that upsets me.
There is considerable evidence that indeed rogue officials in our own government have lied and withheld information regarding 9/11. We know they have lied about many other matters and their deception has been proven. With regard to Israel's connection to 9/11, you miss the point. There is considerable evidence to suggest that some in Israeli intelligence have acted in concert with some in our own intelligence community to wage false flag attacks, to provoke unnecessary wars and to advance the NEOCON agenda. This is no reflection on the people of Israel, just as the Bush Crime Family is no reflection on the vast majority of the American people.
It is up to you to prove that it comes from a disreputable souce, if you can. You have only provided your OPINION. It might interest you to know that Randi Rhodes and Mike Malloy both quote Madsen's reporting and since they both are stars on NovaMRadio, I would think that should give you a respectful pause in your assessment. This is the Randi Rhodes Message Board.
If you have any PROOF that Madsen is not reliable, why not post it here and now? Maybe you also might want to write to the newspapers which feature his oped's, as well as Rhodes and Malloy, to show them all the error of their ways.
Until you have proof, kindly stop attacking me for sharing information. Every member of this message board is free to believe, disbelieve, credit or ignore the reports from Madsen. Why is it your business to censor what they may know or what I may share with this message board?
With regard to "reputable" sources, that is very subjective. Maybe you trust the corporate-controlled media more than independent investigative journalists. That is your call, but before you trust them, you should google Operation Mockingbird. Or maybe you are satisfied with infotainment souces which do not dare challenge the official propaganda of the Bush Crime Family, but prefer to focus on celebrities, sensationalism and trivialities.
QUOTE (Eyeswideopen @ Jun 16 2008, 03:45 PM)
Tammy, I am sharing information with the message board. If you do not find it helpful or instructive, then why not skip it? But no. You wish to stop the message coming from the messenger. It is your attempt to censor the information and prevent the message board from knowing about the information posted by Madsen and others that upsets me.
Thank you for sharing information with the board. It would be more useful if you would post accurate information. I'm sorry if you feel put upon by my asking for some proof or even a reputable link supporting your claims. When people post rumor and innuendo without any reputable evidence to support their claims, especially when one gets defensive (and offensive too) just because one is asked for some shred of reliable evidence to support their claims, their motives become suspect. Why is it that you feel so strongly that no evidence is necessary on your part? Why are you so defensive when asked to supply a reputable source for your claims? If you believe that your claims are correct, you should be willing to defend them. You should be able to find some reputable source for the claims rather than going on the offensive when asked for something with with to defend you wild claims. I hate to sound like a broken record but you are the ones making the claims. It is your responsibility to provide some defense of it. To continually counter requests for accurate information with "well, you can't prove me wrong" is very suspect.
I guess the best proof that the information that you posted is inaccurate is your unwillingness to even attempt to find a reputable link supporting it. Since you refuse to provide a link, since you are starting to become beligerant over request for supporting documentation, I will let the matter rest. There is no point to arguing with a troll who has some axe to grind with Israel. I let the board moderators deal with you as they see fit.
Update of the Carnaby Case:
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
(snip)
Carnaby and his intelligence and federal and county law enforcement associates were concerned about the potential for a "9/11-like" false flag attack on either Houston's port facility, airports, or all of them in and around the Memorial Day and Independence Day weekends.
WMR has learned that at a meeting of tugboat captains last week in Houston, the possibility of an imminent terrorist attack on the Houston port was discussed.
Carnaby's belief in HUMINT as a determinant of terrorist plans likely caused him to believe that Houston was in imminent danger for an attack. WMR spoke to Carnaby's intelligence and law enforcement colleagues who share his concerns.
Suspiciously, the Houston police, in violation of US Judge Keith Ellison's order to preserve all evidence related to Carnaby's shooting by the Houston police, admitted that it disposed of the evidence. Moreover, after having secured Carnaby's Blackberry, which is known to contain contact numbers for CIA and other federal agents, as well as their informants, was returned to the custody of the Houston police by Secret Service Special Agent R. Jennings, the reported SAC (Special Agent in Charge) of the Houston office.
Jennings has been accused by Carnaby's colleagues of cooperating with the very same elements, including individuals connected to Israeli intelligence activities in the Houston area and their well-placed moles inside the Houston Police Department, who wanted access to Carnaby's contacts and other information. The compromise of Carnaby's information represents a potentially devastating compromise of national security and are in direct violation of the National Security Act of 1947, according to Carnaby's colleagues.
It still remains unknown what happened to Carnaby's Mac laptop computer as well as a number of other cell phones, including an I-Phone and a Bang and Olufsen mobile phone in Carnaby's possession at the time of his shooting. Carnaby's colleagues revealed that Carnaby possessed a number of cell phones because some were dedicated to activating video and camera systems placed in strategic locations in and around Houston's ports and airports and downloading images to his phones and eventually to his laptop. At least three phones in Carnaby's possession on the morning of April 29 were used to activate cameras and download photos and videos from sites in and around Houston. One mobile phone number was reportedly used for this surveillance activity -- 713 208-0000.
(snip)
Carnaby's fear about lax port security was borne out when this editor easily gained access through the main gate into the Port of Houston in a rental car. Although containers in bound and out bound from the port are x-rayed and checked for radioactive materials, the overall security is poor and that prompted Carnaby into calling for a better HUMINT program. However, better HUMINT would also result in the arms, drugs, and auto theft activities of the Russian-Israeli mob, Israeli intelligence assets, and their allies in the pro-Mojahedin e Khalq (MEK) Iranian expatriate community in Houston being identified by federal authorities.
For example, WMR learned from US intelligence and customs agents that the 1998 terrorist bombings of the US embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania had a Houston connections. The terrorist attacks were blamed on Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda.
(snip)
Carnaby also had under surveillance a widespread vehicle smuggling ring that operated out of Houston, location of one of the largest vehicle import port facilities in the United States. One of Carnaby's law enforcement colleagues revealed that a network of body shops in Houston have been used to strip and smuggle stolen vehicles out of the United States, mostly to Mexico. Some of the theft operations operate under cover of "import-export" businesses and one operation has laundered $250 million in proceeds from the vehicle thefts.
(snip)
Houston's vulnerable ship channel. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff is opposed to increasing HUMINT collection in this area (snip)
(snip)
It is clear that a number of Carnaby and his intelligence colleagues are skeptical about the "official version" of 9/11 and fear another such attack, possibly during the upcoming Fourth of July holiday. WMR can also report that a close friend of former President George H. W. Bush has taken a keen and supportive interest in our reports on the Carnaby shooting. Bush is the honorary president of the Houston William Buckley Chapter of AFIO, for which Carnaby served as president at the time of his death. Carnaby was also close to the former President, who has reportedly been outraged at the wanton killing of his friend. Carnaby was also reportedly close to Republican presidential candidate John McCain, who has made no public comment on the death of Carnaby.
----
Note: It is clear that WMR's reporting on the Carnaby shooting is irritating certain "quarters," also known as the "usual suspects" and the "amen corner." WMR's contacts with Carnaby's friends has resulted in a number of other doors on "cold cases" being opened. They extend from Dallas in November 1963, to the fate of the US merchant vessel "SS Poet" in 1980, Mena, Arkansas and Nicaraguan contra drug smuggling in the 1980s, and the back doors used to corrupt the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and North American Defense Command (NORAD) computers and networks on the morning of 9/11. WMR will continue to report on these and other stories regardless of the pressure that is being exerted....(snip)
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com
(snip)
Carnaby and his intelligence and federal and county law enforcement associates were concerned about the potential for a "9/11-like" false flag attack on either Houston's port facility, airports, or all of them in and around the Memorial Day and Independence Day weekends.
WMR has learned that at a meeting of tugboat captains last week in Houston, the possibility of an imminent terrorist attack on the Houston port was discussed.
Carnaby's belief in HUMINT as a determinant of terrorist plans likely caused him to believe that Houston was in imminent danger for an attack. WMR spoke to Carnaby's intelligence and law enforcement colleagues who share his concerns.
Suspiciously, the Houston police, in violation of US Judge Keith Ellison's order to preserve all evidence related to Carnaby's shooting by the Houston police, admitted that it disposed of the evidence. Moreover, after having secured Carnaby's Blackberry, which is known to contain contact numbers for CIA and other federal agents, as well as their informants, was returned to the custody of the Houston police by Secret Service Special Agent R. Jennings, the reported SAC (Special Agent in Charge) of the Houston office.
Jennings has been accused by Carnaby's colleagues of cooperating with the very same elements, including individuals connected to Israeli intelligence activities in the Houston area and their well-placed moles inside the Houston Police Department, who wanted access to Carnaby's contacts and other information. The compromise of Carnaby's information represents a potentially devastating compromise of national security and are in direct violation of the National Security Act of 1947, according to Carnaby's colleagues.
It still remains unknown what happened to Carnaby's Mac laptop computer as well as a number of other cell phones, including an I-Phone and a Bang and Olufsen mobile phone in Carnaby's possession at the time of his shooting. Carnaby's colleagues revealed that Carnaby possessed a number of cell phones because some were dedicated to activating video and camera systems placed in strategic locations in and around Houston's ports and airports and downloading images to his phones and eventually to his laptop. At least three phones in Carnaby's possession on the morning of April 29 were used to activate cameras and download photos and videos from sites in and around Houston. One mobile phone number was reportedly used for this surveillance activity -- 713 208-0000.
(snip)
Carnaby's fear about lax port security was borne out when this editor easily gained access through the main gate into the Port of Houston in a rental car. Although containers in bound and out bound from the port are x-rayed and checked for radioactive materials, the overall security is poor and that prompted Carnaby into calling for a better HUMINT program. However, better HUMINT would also result in the arms, drugs, and auto theft activities of the Russian-Israeli mob, Israeli intelligence assets, and their allies in the pro-Mojahedin e Khalq (MEK) Iranian expatriate community in Houston being identified by federal authorities.
For example, WMR learned from US intelligence and customs agents that the 1998 terrorist bombings of the US embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania had a Houston connections. The terrorist attacks were blamed on Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda.
(snip)
Carnaby also had under surveillance a widespread vehicle smuggling ring that operated out of Houston, location of one of the largest vehicle import port facilities in the United States. One of Carnaby's law enforcement colleagues revealed that a network of body shops in Houston have been used to strip and smuggle stolen vehicles out of the United States, mostly to Mexico. Some of the theft operations operate under cover of "import-export" businesses and one operation has laundered $250 million in proceeds from the vehicle thefts.
(snip)
Houston's vulnerable ship channel. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff is opposed to increasing HUMINT collection in this area (snip)
(snip)
It is clear that a number of Carnaby and his intelligence colleagues are skeptical about the "official version" of 9/11 and fear another such attack, possibly during the upcoming Fourth of July holiday. WMR can also report that a close friend of former President George H. W. Bush has taken a keen and supportive interest in our reports on the Carnaby shooting. Bush is the honorary president of the Houston William Buckley Chapter of AFIO, for which Carnaby served as president at the time of his death. Carnaby was also close to the former President, who has reportedly been outraged at the wanton killing of his friend. Carnaby was also reportedly close to Republican presidential candidate John McCain, who has made no public comment on the death of Carnaby.
----
Note: It is clear that WMR's reporting on the Carnaby shooting is irritating certain "quarters," also known as the "usual suspects" and the "amen corner." WMR's contacts with Carnaby's friends has resulted in a number of other doors on "cold cases" being opened. They extend from Dallas in November 1963, to the fate of the US merchant vessel "SS Poet" in 1980, Mena, Arkansas and Nicaraguan contra drug smuggling in the 1980s, and the back doors used to corrupt the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and North American Defense Command (NORAD) computers and networks on the morning of 9/11. WMR will continue to report on these and other stories regardless of the pressure that is being exerted....(snip)
Tammy Stickers wrote:
Thank you for sharing information with the board. It would be more useful if you would post accurate information.
ANSWER: Your repetitive claims that the information is inaccurate HAVE NOT BEEN PROVEN. Again, it is your OPINION.
Tammy:
I'm sorry if you feel put upon by my asking for some proof or even a reputable link supporting your claims.
ANSWER: Who are you to determine what constitutes a reputable link? I have posted the reputable link.
Tammy: When people post rumor and innuendo without any reputable evidence to support their claims, especially when one gets defensive (and offensive too) just because one is asked for some shred of reliable evidence to support their claims, their motives become suspect.
ANSWER: Yes, it is YOU who continues to make claims against Madsen, over and over, without any proof. You have no proof, only your OPINION. But then, that is not enough, you go on to break the rules and attack me personally.
(snip)
Tammy:There is no point to arguing with a troll who has some axe to grind with Israel. I let the board moderators deal with you as they see fit.
Since you have falsely accused me of being "a troll who has some axe to grind with Israel", it is YOU who have broken a rule of this message board,
It seems the closer Madsen gets to the truth, the more people appear here to attempt to censor his reporting.
Thank you for sharing information with the board. It would be more useful if you would post accurate information.
ANSWER: Your repetitive claims that the information is inaccurate HAVE NOT BEEN PROVEN. Again, it is your OPINION.
Tammy:
I'm sorry if you feel put upon by my asking for some proof or even a reputable link supporting your claims.
ANSWER: Who are you to determine what constitutes a reputable link? I have posted the reputable link.
Tammy: When people post rumor and innuendo without any reputable evidence to support their claims, especially when one gets defensive (and offensive too) just because one is asked for some shred of reliable evidence to support their claims, their motives become suspect.
ANSWER: Yes, it is YOU who continues to make claims against Madsen, over and over, without any proof. You have no proof, only your OPINION. But then, that is not enough, you go on to break the rules and attack me personally.
(snip)
Tammy:There is no point to arguing with a troll who has some axe to grind with Israel. I let the board moderators deal with you as they see fit.
Since you have falsely accused me of being "a troll who has some axe to grind with Israel", it is YOU who have broken a rule of this message board,
It seems the closer Madsen gets to the truth, the more people appear here to attempt to censor his reporting.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.