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Laura
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http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Fox_mistaken...ck_on_0822.html
spirtof76
QUOTE (Laura @ Aug 23 2008, 09:15 AM) *

Here is a quote from your link:

In a segment with Shepard Smith and Molly Henneberg, Fox News apparently meant to use an attack ad from the McCain campaign which claims there is a connection between Obama and "convicted felon" Tony Resko.

Uhhhh.... Obama is connected to Resko and to Bill Ayers... (for good or bad he's connected to both of them)
You guys keep saying McCain is connected to big oil and Bush. Why is this banned ad a problem?
Is it a "you promised not to run it so now its not credible" or "its not true or credible" argument?
bhusar
QUOTE (spirtof76 @ Aug 23 2008, 12:09 PM) *
Here is a quote from your link:

In a segment with Shepard Smith and Molly Henneberg, Fox News apparently meant to use an attack ad from the McCain campaign which claims there is a connection between Obama and "convicted felon" Tony Resko.

Uhhhh.... Obama is connected to Resko and to Bill Ayers... (for good or bad he's connected to both of them)
You guys keep saying McCain is connected to big oil and Bush. Why is this banned ad a problem?
Is it a "you promised not to run it so now its not credible" or "its not true or credible" argument?



Please explain how he is connected to Ayers. In detail. Also Ayers did not do anything. But please give me some specific detail about his connection to Ayers. SOME FACTS.
Laura
QUOTE (spirtof76 @ Aug 23 2008, 12:09 PM) *
Here is a quote from your link:

In a segment with Shepard Smith and Molly Henneberg, Fox News apparently meant to use an attack ad from the McCain campaign which claims there is a connection between Obama and "convicted felon" Tony Resko.

Uhhhh.... Obama is connected to Resko and to Bill Ayers... (for good or bad he's connected to both of them)
You guys keep saying McCain is connected to big oil and Bush. Why is this banned ad a problem?
Is it a "you promised not to run it so now its not credible" or "its not true or credible" argument?


Actually they tried to connect Obama to Resko and they found NO WRONG DOING!! I repeat....NO WRONG DOING!
Why is it bad to connect McCain to big oil and Bush....BECAUSE IT'S TRUE...
See, when you run ads, and it's a LIE, YOU CAN BE SUED FOR LIBEL....
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Randys
swfitboating comes in many forms, people

mccain = keating scandal

that is the only real scandal we know of that can be proven, the rest of it is bullshit

OBAMA/BIDEN
Laura
QUOTE (Randys @ Aug 23 2008, 01:00 PM) *
swfitboating comes in many forms, people

mccain = keating scandal

that is the only real scandal we know of that can be proven, the rest of it is bullshit

OBAMA/BIDEN


I beg to differ

http://hootsbuddy.blogspot.com/2008/07/joh...onnections.html

http://loomisnews.wordpress.com/2008/08/04...-oil-candidate/

Also, keep in mind, he was cleared of the Keating scandal...
spirtof76
QUOTE (bhusar @ Aug 23 2008, 11:51 AM) *
Please explain how he is connected to Ayers. In detail. Also Ayers did not do anything. But please give me some specific detail about his connection to Ayers. SOME FACTS.

Both Obama and Ayers were members of the board of an anti-poverty group, the Woods Fund of Chicago, between 1999 and 2002. In addition, Ayers contributed $200 to Obama's re-election fund to the Illinois State Senate in April 2001, as reported here. They lived within a few blocks of each other in the trendy Hyde Park section of Chicago, and moved in the same liberal-progressive circles.

AGAIN... For god or for bad, they are connected...
bhusar
QUOTE (spirtof76 @ Aug 23 2008, 12:36 PM) *
Both Obama and Ayers were members of the board of an anti-poverty group, the Woods Fund of Chicago, between 1999 and 2002. In addition, Ayers contributed $200 to Obama's re-election fund to the Illinois State Senate in April 2001, as reported here. They lived within a few blocks of each other in the trendy Hyde Park section of Chicago, and moved in the same liberal-progressive circles.

AGAIN... For god or for bad, they are connected...


So they served on a board together. That's all.But that does not mean they are close personal friends like you and Hannity keep on saying. And Ayers was found of doing no wrong and he turned himself in.
bhusar
QUOTE (bhusar @ Aug 23 2008, 01:43 PM) *
So they served on a board together. That's all.But that does not mean they are close personal friends like you and Hannity keep on saying. And Ayers was found of doing no wrong and he turned himself in.


..And it;s just more fodder to portray Obama as an angry black man who agrees with 60's radicals. I wish people would just come out and say "he's black".
Ishmael
How about Jonah's coverup of the Abramoff/Norquist/Reed Troika of Corruption feeding off of Indian Tribal Gaming? Remember that led to Gus Boutros, Suncoast Cruise lines and a Mafia hit on the late Mr. Boutros.
spirtof76
QUOTE (bhusar @ Aug 23 2008, 12:43 PM) *
So they served on a board together. That's all.But that does not mean they are close personal friends like you and Hannity keep on saying. And Ayers was found of doing no wrong and he turned himself in.

Hey, I simply answered the challenge to prove they were connected.
Are you connected with Ayers or anyone like Ayers?
bhusar
QUOTE (spirtof76 @ Aug 23 2008, 02:22 PM) *
Hey, I simply answered the challenge to prove they were connected.
Are you connected with Ayers or anyone like Ayers?



No I am not, and what kind of childish question is that? And what are you accusing me of? You want to make a big deal of this? Your picking the wrong guy to start a fight with.
Laura
QUOTE (spirtof76 @ Aug 23 2008, 01:36 PM) *
Ayers contributed $200 to Obama's re-election fund


....uh....$200?? Why, I've given more than that....what the hell is $200? PUH LEESE!
spirtof76
QUOTE (bhusar @ Aug 23 2008, 01:25 PM) *
No I am not, and what kind of childish question is that? And what are you accusing me of? You want to make a big deal of this? Your picking the wrong guy to start a fight with.

There ya go, ask a question and then before you get an answer just go ahead and make some threats.

Of course you are not connected to Ayers in any way, so why not ask yourself how and why Obama is.

spirtof76
QUOTE (Laura @ Aug 23 2008, 01:42 PM) *
....uh....$200?? Why, I've given more than that....what the hell is $200? PUH LEESE!


Uh, its a connection...Oh I see, you don't like the question being answered so now you want to distract from it. Don't blame me, I don't know Ayers or Wright or Resko or Flaeger or who ever else the Clinton's did not find out about.
bhusar
QUOTE (spirtof76 @ Aug 23 2008, 02:43 PM) *
There ya go, ask a question and then before you get an answer just go ahead and make some threats.

Of course you are not connected to Ayers in any way, so why not ask yourself how and why Obama is.



I didn't make a threat. I said I am the wrong guy to pick a fight with. Why would you ask me if I am connected to Ayers. To make peace if I made a threat I am sorry. Obama is connected because he served on a board with him. But since, and I take it you are a conservitive, the right brings it up it does not mean that they are personal friends hanging out on a Friday night and are very close.
Laura
QUOTE (spirtof76 @ Aug 23 2008, 02:47 PM) *
Uh, its a connection...Oh I see, you don't like the question being answered so now you want to distract from it. Don't blame me, I don't know Ayers or Wright or Resko or Flaeger or who ever else the Clinton's did not find out about.


no no no no no.....what I"m saying is that if someone donates $200, it doesn't make a "connection"....if someone donates, say $200,000 THERE'S A CONNECTION...and no, I'm hardly the type of person who wants to distract from things....
thanks anyway.
bushwa
QUOTE (bhusar @ Aug 23 2008, 10:43 AM) *
So they served on a board together. ...


Hey, have you heard anything about the Republican party censuring or tossing out the Republicans who ALSO sat on that board with the "bombing terrorist?" I haven't. But perhaps Spiitof76 can fill us in on the party's principled efforts to denounce those Republicans who associated themselves with the domestic terrorist?

Randys
QUOTE (Laura @ Aug 23 2008, 10:13 AM) *

dont know what you mean by cleared, they were all cleared because the system is corrupt, i dont recall the details but he was in it hipdeep
Laura
QUOTE (Randys @ Aug 23 2008, 04:30 PM) *
dont know what you mean by cleared, they were all cleared because the system is corrupt, i dont recall the details but he was in it hipdeep


this according to Wikipedia...

"After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings. Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".

Don't get me wrong, I am hardly a McCain supporter! (by any way,shape,or form) but if there's a trial, and he wasn't found guilty then....
Randys
QUOTE (Laura @ Aug 23 2008, 01:40 PM) *
this according to Wikipedia...

"After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings. Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".

Don't get me wrong, I am hardly a McCain supporter! (by any way,shape,or form) but if there's a trial, and he wasn't found guilty then....

i know where you are coming from but no trial that i know of, just a whitewash insider committee, and the ones they could prove were in the wrong still suffered no consequences as i recall
Laura
QUOTE (Randys @ Aug 23 2008, 05:08 PM) *
i know where you are coming from but no trial that i know of, just a whitewash insider committee, and the ones they could prove were in the wrong still suffered no consequences as i recall


hmmm....good point....
Ishmael
Then let's ask McCain why he won't release all the documents on this little episode he was supposed to investigate as Chairman of the Indian Affairs subcommitee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Abramoff...lobbying_affair

Could it be that Ralph Reed and Grover Norquist are both working in concert with the McCain campaign?
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