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Faade
I get emails from a friend who has been a right winger for years. He was a democrat a long time ago. Now he's disgusted with the current Bush admin but is not quite sold on Obama. Yes, a swing voter. He sends me emails of stuff right wingers get and asks me questions that I can't always answer with certainty. One example, today he sent me this email with a link to an anti-Obama blog supposedly written by a staunch Hillary supporter.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/

What do I do with this? What can I tell him or point him to in order to clear this up? I can't find anything addressing Obama's citizenship on Obama's site. I just told him how ridiculous this scrutiny has gotten over a black presidential candidate.

toreyj01
QUOTE (Faade @ Aug 25 2008, 04:45 PM) *
I get emails from a friend who has been a right winger for years. He was a democrat a long time ago. Now he's disgusted with the current Bush admin but is not quite sold on Obama. Yes, a swing voter. He sends me emails of stuff right wingers get and asks me questions that I can't always answer with certainty. One example, today he sent me this email with a link to an anti-Obama blog supposedly written by a staunch Hillary supporter.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/

What do I do with this? What can I tell him or point him to in order to clear this up? I can't find anything addressing Obama's citizenship on Obama's site. I just told him how ridiculous this scrutiny has gotten over a black presidential candidate.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome/
Ishmael
First, you can tell him that the blog linked is to an Iranian Monarchist website. Now while most Iranians want the Mullahs gone, they don't exactly have fond memories of the Shah or SAVAK either. Just tell them why I am voting for Obama. Please feel free to cut and paste the following to your friend.


I spent six years in the US Navy as a sonarman specializing in anti-submarine and anti-surface ship weapons systems. I was a member of the Personnel Reliability Program, the Nuclear Weapons Handling Team, the Nuclear Security Alert Team and the Nuclear/Chemical/Biological Accident/Incident team aboard two Destroyers. I have partiipated in Nuclear Weapons Certification Inspections, Nuclear Technical Proficiency Inspections and Technical Surprise Inspections. In order to be accepted and cleared for those programs, I had to be an intelligent, level-headed, calm individual who could be relied upon to perform right action under enormous stress. The only candidate who shows the same personality and character traits that I HAD to show to get into the above programs is Barack Obama. As one who's finger was, quite literally, ON THE BUTTON, I have SERIOUS reservation about turning over control of the nation's nuclear arsenal to a candidate like John McCain who has serious temper issues and a poor grasp of world geography and politics.

Faade
QUOTE (Ishmael @ Aug 25 2008, 01:59 PM) *
First, you can tell him that the blog linked is to an Iranian Monarchist website. Now while most Iranians want the Mullahs gone, they don't exactly have fond memories of the Shah or SAVAK either. Just tell them why I am voting for Obama. Please feel free to cut and paste the following to your friend.


I spent six years in the US Navy as a sonarman specializing in anti-submarine and anti-surface ship weapons systems. I was a member of the Personnel Reliability Program, the Nuclear Weapons Handling Team, the Nuclear Security Alert Team and the Nuclear/Chemical/Biological Accident/Incident team aboard two Destroyers. I have partiipated in Nuclear Weapons Certification Inspections, Nuclear Technical Proficiency Inspections and Technical Surprise Inspections. In order to be accepted and cleared for those programs, I had to be an intelligent, level-headed, calm individual who could be relied upon to perform right action under enormous stress. The only candidate who shows the same personality and character traits that I HAD to show to get into the above programs is Barack Obama. As one who's finger was, quite literally, ON THE BUTTON, I have SERIOUS reservation about turning over control of the nation's nuclear arsenal to a candidate like John McCain who has serious temper issues and a poor grasp of world geography and politics.



Thanks, Ish! I needed that! Next time he sends me another crazy rr email I will be sure to share it since he now wonders what else we crazy liberals might know.

So far, according to his past emails he has shared with me: Obama is a racist, elitist, undercover Muslim who goes to a racist church, bought his home from a criminal, wants revenge for slavery and was born in another country and has phoney birth papers. We have been sparring for the last 6 months and the emails only get uglier (the ones he forwards to me, not his). He is actually becoming curious about the other side, but I guess his fears are like most on the right.
brotherdavid
Randys posted a most helpful McCain/Obama tax policy comparison chart in another forum.

Election 2008: Everybody use this please, when dealing republicans

meltdown.gif randi.gif costumed-smiley-089.gif sm.png light.gif
TapDuncan
If anyone is level headed, it's Ish. In fact if one is building a house and using a level, do not employ Ishmael simply because the bubble never moves, it's like watching paint dry. If nerves of steel are what you need, call Ish, his have been rusted for years, so trust me, they don't twitch. If enormous stress is what you are concerned about, let me set you at ease, Ish has enormous stress upon him everyday, what with the whole 'How do I set up a 3 way with Randi' type stress. 'How do I live in NM and not try to knock off all of the idiot ranchers who keep voting against their best interests repigs.' Or most importantly, how is it that a kid from California can actually LIVE in NM? These are my questions for this so called Ishmael. Just Kidding, I Love him and Janet, I am proud to say they are my friends, and I love them.
carmenjonze
QUOTE (Faade @ Aug 25 2008, 02:13 PM) *
Thanks, Ish! I needed that! Next time he sends me another crazy rr email I will be sure to share it since he now wonders what else we crazy liberals might know.

So far, according to his past emails he has shared with me: Obama is a racist, elitist, undercover Muslim who goes to a racist church, bought his home from a criminal, wants revenge for slavery and was born in another country and has phoney birth papers. We have been sparring for the last 6 months and the emails only get uglier (the ones he forwards to me, not his). He is actually becoming curious about the other side, but I guess his fears are like most on the right.


F' him.
Ishmael
Here's the other comparison I have been making with MaCain.


Like John McCain, I am a third-generation seafaring man. Unlike McCain, my Dad And Granddad were Able Seamen sailing before the mast. My granddad went to sea on the last of the Square-Riggers in 1900 and my Dad was 2 days out of Pearl Harbor on his way there on 12/7/41. He saw action in Alaska, North Africa, Sicily, Salerno, Anzio and Iwo Jima and was shot at by representatives of all three Axis powers as a civilian merchant seaman. As a sonarman, I have personally hunted the great steel whales across the trackless deep of four of the five oceans and six of the seven seas bearing harpoons tipped with the Fires of Armageddon. I don't expect most landlubbers to have much knowledge of the sea but there ARE comparisons to be made. As one who has gone A-Whaling, I have marked John McCain, just as the sailors in Father Mapple's Sermon did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rWV8sBZ9ho

If you examine John McCain's entire life, you see what we superstitious sailors call a Jonah, a Jinx, A Hoodoo. He's had an albatross tied to his neck for his entire life. From his Academy days through his lost planes, the Forrestal fire, his captivity, his Keating connections to his recent links to Jack Abramoff, death and ruin follow in his wake like the Flying Dutchman. His experiences have scarred him like Ahab and he will chase his white whale of the Presidency around Good Hope and Around the Horn and Around the Norway Maelstrom and even around Perdition's flames before he'll give it up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPGwMyqWouU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH2g_vdoZEQ

For, whether you believe it or not, this nation truly IS the crew of the Pequod:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-57WRL32wkA

Drawn From All the Isles of the Sea, All the Ends of the Earth. So, Call me...Ishmael!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAmwgT8_Kzg

And, like my Dad before me and his Dad before him, I must keep the true watch from the masthead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZD9zCLRB1g
Jymiek
The best one I've read so far was the one that said Obama couldn't be a natural born citizen because he was born in Hawaii and Hawaii wasn't a state when he was born...Umm. WRONG AGAIN!
Ishmael
QUOTE (TapDuncan @ Aug 25 2008, 03:27 PM) *
If anyone is level headed, it's Ish. In fact if one is building a house and using a level, do not employ Ishmael simply because the bubble never moves, it's like watching paint dry. If nerves of steel are what you need, call Ish, his have been rusted for years, so trust me, they don't twitch. If enormous stress is what you are concerned about, let me set you at ease, Ish has enormous stress upon him everyday, what with the whole 'How do I set up a 3 way with Randi' type stress. 'How do I live in NM and not try to knock off all of the idiot ranchers who keep voting against their best interests repigs.' Or most importantly, how is it that a kid from California can actually LIVE in NM? These are my questions for this so called Ishmael. Just Kidding, I Love him and Janet, I am proud to say they are my friends, and I love them.


Yeah. I'm so damned old, somebody told me to act my age one time...And I Died.

The three-way would never work as my throat would be slit from TWO directions. Besides, My heart has only enough room in it for ONE love in a lifetime and Janet and I are working through about 4 previous lifetimes together in Egypt, Uxmal, Kyushu and Sand Creek. All those times I was denied the opportunity to take care of her by one or both of us being killed in nasty ways. This life is my reward and it only took 21 years to find her after I saw her the first time. The thing with Randi and me is for our NEXT life and how I do at loving and caring for Janet will reflect then. How do I know this? I HAVE been living with a psychic and witch these past 18 years, and the day I first saw Janet was Saturday, February 17, 1968, her Witch mother's, La Prima Donna de Tutti Prima Donni, 51st birthday. So the spell was well cast. In a way, it kind of reminds me of this film:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gohrycpXrxo
danisnape
First show him this:

http://www.ntdaily.com/home/index.cfm?even...20Texas%20Daily

(I forgot to add NPSD 51 on there, I know... maybe I'll submit a political cartoon... "In case of emergency, retract document" with the Constitution next to a knife labeled 'NPSD 51')


Then remind them that between Democrats and Republicans, which party will continue on Bush/Cheney's road to hell?
rottmom
What my mother used to tell me whenever I dragged yet another animal into the house, "He's your responsibility! You clean up after him, you feed him, you walk him. If I have to clean up one mess from that rightie, he's gone!"

I miss mom.
LilaTheGreat
QUOTE (carmenjonze @ Aug 25 2008, 04:39 PM) *
F' him.

Carmenjonze, why are you so eager to f'*** the republicans?

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Yeah. I'm so damned old, somebody told me to act my age one time...And I Died.

Ish, that is funny! laugh.gif laugh.gif
RandiLover
The repugs jumped on this guy when he told everyone this lie. Obama did not have to, there was plenty of time for the truth to seek its level. So now they hammer him for not reacting to bull crap, I do believe he gave it as much attention as it deserved. It is sad that the repugs and the news spent soooo much time and money on a clown that lied to everyone, but that got them the election twice so... there ya go.
carmenjonze
QUOTE (LilaTheGreat @ Aug 26 2008, 12:06 PM) *
Carmenjonze, why are you so eager to f'*** the republicans?


Literalist.
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