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auslander
So, I was listening to AM760 today, who carries Randi's show and I heard an ad where Randi says something like:

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If you come up on a line of police you deserve what you get, if they lock you in a cage or whatever


I was so taken aback by this that I nearly lost control of my car! Are you kidding me? If I stand up for what I believe in and confront oppression then I deserve to be locked in a cage or whatever? Are you freaking kidding me?
martsmart


lol

You'll have to do a little better than this in a first post.

"auslander"...

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auslander
Whatever -- that's what I heard, it's probably not verbatim but it's close. Sorry that's my first post, I listen to the show occationally (it's in a bad timeslot for me on that station) and it freaked me out.
daveward
Oh my. Is this how you make a first impression?
auslander
Apparently.

Now, did anyone else hear this? I assume it would have been on her show the last couple days since I assume it's about the police actions at the DNC. So, did anyone hear this?
SickupandFed
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 11:26 PM) *
Apparently.

Now, did anyone else hear this? I assume it would have been on her show the last couple days since I assume it's about the police actions at the DNC. So, did anyone hear this?



Buh-Bye.


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daveward
QUOTE (SickupandFed @ Aug 26 2008, 08:33 PM) *
Buh-Bye.

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auslander
Are you disputing that she said that? Or that there's police actions at the DNC in Denver?

http://photos.denverpost.com/photoprojects...stsgallery.html

auslander
It's mentioned over here too:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/26/d...omment_14982451
egghead
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 10:26 PM) *
Apparently.

Now, did anyone else hear this? I assume it would have been on her show the last couple days since I assume it's about the police actions at the DNC. So, did anyone hear this?


Heard it once. Have not listened to her podcast. But I remember specifically her saying when police are protecting those who are going into convention hall, no one needs to be breaking that police line. Period. We are a nation of laws, and there is a right way to protest, and it is certainly not in a cage.
There are no "free speech cages" at the Democratic Convention, my friend (outlander). Now toddle off back to Hannity board and create havoc there. biggrin.gif
daveward
I've participated in many protests. You are not permitted to disrupt traffic, and it's incredibly stupid to confront the police. At every protest I've been in, the police were there to protect us and our right to make our opinions heard and seen. But a protest can not disrupt traffic.

Look at it this way -- when you disrupt traffic, you don't know who is in the cars you are holding up. You don't know where they are going or where they need to be. You may be preventing somebody from getting to a court date, or even the emergency room.

If that doesn't reach your brain or heart, then look at it this way: Disrupting traffic only pisses off the people who are trying to get somewhere, and that makes people HOSTILE to your cause, not sympathetic.

There's no reason for protesters to block traffic.

Everybody should join up with protests for progressive causes, or even start their own protests. Go for it. I've done it, and you should, too. But don't be a dumbass about it -- use basic common sense, and don't disrupt and anger the people you need to WIN OVER TO YOUR SIDE.
auslander
In the video it looks like they start on the sidewalk and in a public square (not in the street) and are herded into the street, surrounded and pepper-sprayed. All those streets are closed off anyway, so it's not like they are obstructing the empty street.

And why can't the delegates be confronted when they are entering the Pepsi Center? Lots of people want their voices heard on a number of topics that the democrats have rolled over on time and time again -- The PATRIOT Act, FISA changes, Executive Orders, Illegal Wiretaps, Torture, etc. I don't see that being addressed at all at the DNC, and it sickens me. They are protesting that in some ways the dems are just like the republicans, and the dems just don't want to hear it. It's sad.
carmenjonze
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 08:10 PM) *
So, I was listening to AM760 today, who carries Randi's show and I heard an ad where Randi says something like:



I was so taken aback by this that I nearly lost control of my car! Are you kidding me? If I stand up for what I believe in and confront oppression then I deserve to be locked in a cage or whatever? Are you freaking kidding me?


Newbies startin' threads...
auslander
QUOTE (carmenjonze @ Aug 26 2008, 10:24 PM) *
Newbies startin' threads...



I guess I should know my place, eh? This is why Taker society fails, the "in" people and the "out" people. The cycle continues.
Christine
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 09:20 PM) *
Whatever -- that's what I heard, it's probably not verbatim but it's close. Sorry that's my first post, I listen to the show occationally (it's in a bad timeslot for me on that station) and it freaked me out.


way to go, sport!!! You'll be a one hit wonder in no time at all!
Christine
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 10:00 PM) *
In the video it looks like they start on the sidewalk and in a public square (not in the street) and are herded into the street, surrounded and pepper-sprayed. All those streets are closed off anyway, so it's not like they are obstructing the empty street.

And why can't the delegates be confronted when they are entering the Pepsi Center? Lots of people want their voices heard on a number of topics that the democrats have rolled over on time and time again -- The PATRIOT Act, FISA changes, Executive Orders, Illegal Wiretaps, Torture, etc. I don't see that being addressed at all at the DNC, and it sickens me. They are protesting that in some ways the dems are just like the republicans, and the dems just don't want to hear it. It's sad.


so you are in Downtown Denver then? You know what's going on, firstahnd or are you watching TV smile.gif Because we all know that if it's on the TV, it must be true!
daveward
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 09:00 PM) *
the dems just don't want to hear it.

I thought you said the protestors were arrested by POLICE. Because now you're saying it's the (so-called) "dems" who don't want to hear it.

Who is doing the alleged arresting, police officers, or is Howard Dean out there slapping handcuffs on people? Pick one, because the (co-called) "Dems" don't get to tell police what to do and who to arrest.

And read up:

Protesters: We're being treated like prisoners

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A small group of protesters marched to the demonstration zone outside the Democratic National Convention, complaining they are being treated like political prisoners.

Members of the protest group Recreate 68 Alliance visited the fenced-off zone for the first time on Monday and vowed not to return because they oppose the limits on where they can demonstrate.


Did you catch that?

Members of the protest group Recreate 68 Alliance

That's all you need to know. That's what's going down: idiots trying to make Democrats look bad. They're trying to recreate 1968. They're HOPING for police clashes and clouds of tear gas.

See also:

Four arrested over 'plot against Obama'

Randall Terry, Founder of Operation Rescue, and 12 Others Arrested After Leading Sit-In at DNC

carmenjonze
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 09:28 PM) *
I guess I should know my place, eh? This is why Taker society fails, the "in" people and the "out" people. The cycle continues.


No, the board rules state that a poster must have 15 posts before starting threads. Has nothing to do with "place" - just a request to get to a feel for the board.
LilaTheGreat
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 11:28 PM) *
I guess I should know my place, eh? This is why Taker society fails, the "in" people and the "out" people. The cycle continues.
I think you got it all wrong auslander, you don't make a good impression on the RandiRhodes Message Board by coming in here and saying false...FALSE things about RANDI.

Randi DOES NOT support a Police STate, but she does support the RULE OF LAW.

I heard what she said and she was impressed with the civility from the police towards protesters. In other events the POLICE have NOT been so nice about their treatment of protesters, and the DENVER police were/are...Gentlemen.
auslander
QUOTE (Christine @ Aug 26 2008, 10:31 PM) *
so you are in Downtown Denver then? You know what's going on, firstahnd or are you watching TV smile.gif Because we all know that if it's on the TV, it must be true!



Sigh. No, I'm in Boulder, traffic in Denver is a clusterf*ck with the DNC, and no I didn't watch it on TV, I watched the video on the internets, via those tubes. I linked to the page previously, on Huffington Post... I'm sure that video was faked -- yeah, that's it... was that really your point, or are you in knee-jerk reaction mode?

In any case, what I was talking about in my first post WAS heard, as egghead states -- maybe in the ad I heard it was taken out of context, which explains some of my confusion -- but that's what I heard, that's what others heard, that's what I asked about, and now you're jumping down my throat over this? What the hell?
daveward
You said you heard this in an ad. What was the ad for?

And don't say the Randi Rhodes show. This clearly was not an ad for her show.
auslander
QUOTE (daveward @ Aug 26 2008, 10:46 PM) *
You said you heard this in an ad. What was the ad for?

And don't say the Randi Rhodes show. This clearly was not an ad for her show.



Heard it in an ad for the Randi Rhodes show, it was this afternoon on the Mario Solis-Marich show, AM760.
Christine
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 10:51 PM) *
Heard it in an ad for the Randi Rhodes show, it was this afternoon on the Mario Solis-Marich show.


So, you can't be exactly sure what you are talking about.....now I get it smile.gif
auslander
QUOTE (Christine @ Aug 26 2008, 10:54 PM) *
So, you can't be exactly sure what you are talking about.....now I get it smile.gif



Obviously this is way above your head. Advertisement for show A was playing on show B. Incredible, but true.
LilaTheGreat
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 11:59 PM) *
Obviously this is way above your head. Advertisement for show A was playing on show B. Incredible, but true.

I know what your talking about. I've heard Randi's ad for her show. It says The Randi Rhodes Show on xm 167, 3 - 6 in the west, but I get to hear it 2-5.
daveward
So, basically this thread is all just because auslander heard one little line from Randi's show without context, didn't even listen to her show in order to GET the context, and then came here to post about how angry he is about the quote he heard out-of-context and didn't bother to investigate.

I see.

Hurry and post a reply, auslander! I see you hovering on this thread just hitting refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh! laugh.gif
RandiLover
QUOTE (daveward @ Aug 26 2008, 08:51 PM) *
I've participated in many protests. You are not permitted to disrupt traffic, and it's incredibly stupid to confront the police. At every protest I've been in, the police were there to protect us and our right to make our opinions heard and seen. But a protest can not disrupt traffic.

Look at it this way -- when you disrupt traffic, you don't know who is in the cars you are holding up. You don't know where they are going or where they need to be. You may be preventing somebody from getting to a court date, or even the emergency room.

If that doesn't reach your brain or heart, then look at it this way: Disrupting traffic only pisses off the people who are trying to get somewhere, and that makes people HOSTILE to your cause, not sympathetic.

There's no reason for protesters to block traffic.

Everybody should join up with protests for progressive causes, or even start their own protests. Go for it. I've done it, and you should, too. But don't be a dumbass about it -- use basic common sense, and don't disrupt and anger the people you need to WIN OVER TO YOUR SIDE.


Here in Los Angeles the illegals walked onto the 110 freeway about 100,000 of them. That was right after Hillary told them to vote her. I do believe they blocked traffic.
roborok
QUOTE (daveward @ Aug 26 2008, 09:33 PM) *
I thought you said the protestors were arrested by POLICE. Because now you're saying it's the (so-called) "dems" who don't want to hear it.

Who is doing the alleged arresting, police officers, or is Howard Dean out there slapping handcuffs on people? Pick one, because the (co-called) "Dems" don't get to tell police what to do and who to arrest.

And read up:

Protesters: We're being treated like prisoners



Did you catch that?

Members of the protest group Recreate 68 Alliance

That's all you need to know. That's what's going down: idiots trying to make Democrats look bad. They're trying to recreate 1968. They're HOPING for police clashes and clouds of tear gas.

See also:

Four arrested over 'plot against Obama'

Randall Terry, Founder of Operation Rescue, and 12 Others Arrested After Leading Sit-In at DNC


If the damn IDIOTS want ta create 1968 they should fukin do it in St. Paul next week NOT DENVER!!! wtf.gif
auslander
Watch TerrorStorm.

Investigate 9/11
Fight for your rights
Fight for your freedom
This is not a drill
RoyPDX
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 10:41 PM) *
Watch TerrorStorm.

Investigate 9/11
Fight for your rights
Fight for your freedom
This is not a drill


Sheesh. Alex Jones. Blah.
carmenjonze
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 10:41 PM) *
[font="Arial Black"][size=7]Watch TerrorStorm.


Let's not and say we did.
brotherdavid
carmenjonze
QUOTE (RandiLover @ Aug 26 2008, 10:13 PM) *
[size=3]Here in Los Angeles the illegals


What "illegals"?
Ishmael
Dude! You really should listen to the whole show to get things in context. You know, NovaM has podcasts of the shows available for further review. I lived in Longmont from 94-96 and both my wife and I consider Boulder a Disneyfied version of Berkeley. The funniest thing we saw were the "No Aggressive Panhandling" signs on Pearl St. If you've ever been to Telegraph Ave. in Berkeley, you'd see the humor of it. Now Randi is ALWAYS passionate, sometimes to the point of hyperbole. But that's usually rare. She also ALWAYS has facts in hand and mind before she makes any statement on-air. I remind you of the recently dismissed CACI lawsuit aganst her. So, you might consider a little restraint as a rookie here. We demand facts and links to back up arguments here, just like Our Goddess does. How do I know this? I've actually met the woman on three different occaisions including the SF appearance that got her contract with AAR broken. So here are the three most dangerous women I've had my picture taken with. My wife, Randi and Valerie Plame.




daveward
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 10:41 PM) *
Watch TerrorStorm.

Investigate 9/11
Fight for your rights
Fight for your freedom
This is not a drill

If you have to use HUGE LETTERS to make your point, then your point was not worth making.

Doubly so if your point involves a gooftard like Alex Jones.
carmenjonze
QUOTE (daveward @ Aug 26 2008, 11:02 PM) *
If you have to use HUGE LETTERS to make your point, then your point was not worth making.

Doubly so if your point involves a gooftard like Alex Jones.


Alex Jones: the man who turned the word "bullhorn" into a verb.
brotherdavid
QUOTE (carmenjonze @ Aug 27 2008, 01:32 AM) *
Alex Jones: the man who turned the word "bullhorn" into a verb.
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martsmart
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 10:41 PM) *
Watch TerrorStorm.

Investigate 9/11
Fight for your rights
Fight for your freedom
This is not a drill



So...

You saying my first post back to you was right?

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Christine
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 10:59 PM) *
Obviously this is way above your head. Advertisement for show A was playing on show B. Incredible, but true.


I live here...I hear the ads, AM760 is my local station....you are clueless!
Seeker1
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 27 2008, 01:41 AM) *
[font="Arial Black"][size=7]Watch TerrorStorm.


Ahhhh ... an AJ fan. SELL MORE DVDS!!!!!!!!!!!

Explains everything.

I was going to ask you to provide Randi's remarks in context so they could be understood properly, but you listen to AJ, who has made taking remarks out of context into an art form.


5by5
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 08:41 PM) *
Are you disputing that she said that? Or that there's police actions at the DNC in Denver?

No.

But that hardly means that the hyperbolic title of your thread has any validity whatsoever.

Her point was a TACTICAL one. If you charge a police line, you can expect to be arrested. That is simply an observation based in common sense. It's also an admonishment to NON-violence.

Additionally, it is a recognition of the actual SIZE of the protests. Having literally LIVED in the middle of a police riot that lasted a week myself, I can tell you whatever shit's going down in Denver, it's so mild as to approach insignificance by comparison.

The police got all jacked up for a whole bunch of nothing, primarily because they listened to the hysterical rantings of a nitwit like Rush Limpballs.

As far as I can tell, the only people attempting to start some shit, are rightwing loons on meth.
fla1sun
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 11:00 PM) *
In the video it looks like they start on the sidewalk and in a public square (not in the street) and are herded into the street, surrounded and pepper-sprayed. All those streets are closed off anyway, so it's not like they are obstructing the empty street.

And why can't the delegates be confronted when they are entering the Pepsi Center? Lots of people want their voices heard on a number of topics that the democrats have rolled over on time and time again -- The PATRIOT Act, FISA changes, Executive Orders, Illegal Wiretaps, Torture, etc. I don't see that being addressed at all at the DNC, and it sickens me. They are protesting that in some ways the dems are just like the republicans, and the dems just don't want to hear it. It's sad.



Well those issues are being addressed in the places they are supposed to be addressed. That's not what the convention is for. The convention has a stated purpose. There is a process to persue in order to make the changes in government that will facilitate overturning some of the current goings on in the government. These protests, now, at the convention are counterproductive. People who know how the process has to be addressed know that this is counterproductive, and those who are participating are an obstacle to their own stated purpose. But those aren't Democrats, those are college republicans.
You know, back a few months ago there were what the Secret Service considered to be credible threats on Obama's life. This week, the first day of the convention three men with a plot to assissinate Obama on Thursday night were arrested in Denver. So, you take your little troupe of troublemakers and find somebody else to yell at...mmmm K?
Come to think of it, just what the hell do you think the delegates can do about your complaints about the patriot act and fisa and torture, etc.?
You don't seem to understand what is going on around you.
RitaRanch
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 10:20 PM) *
I listen to the show occationally (it's in a bad timeslot for me on that station) and it freaked me out.


occasionally
martsmart
QUOTE (carmenjonze @ Aug 26 2008, 10:53 PM) *
What "illegals"?


Watching this one...

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Randys
QUOTE (auslander @ Aug 26 2008, 10:41 PM) *
Watch TerrorStorm.

Investigate 9/11
Fight for your rights
Fight for your freedom
This is not a drill



911 posts belong in the 911 forum and only in the 911 forum
fla1sun
QUOTE (Ishmael @ Aug 27 2008, 12:57 AM) *
Dude! You really should listen to the whole show to get things in context. You know, NovaM has podcasts of the shows available for further review. I lived in Longmont from 94-96 and both my wife and I consider Boulder a Disneyfied version of Berkeley. The funniest thing we saw were the "No Aggressive Panhandling" signs on Pearl St. If you've ever been to Telegraph Ave. in Berkeley, you'd see the humor of it. Now Randi is ALWAYS passionate, sometimes to the point of hyperbole. But that's usually rare. She also ALWAYS has facts in hand and mind before she makes any statement on-air. I remind you of the recently dismissed CACI lawsuit aganst her. So, you might consider a little restraint as a rookie here. We demand facts and links to back up arguments here, just like Our Goddess does. How do I know this? I've actually met the woman on three different occaisions including the SF appearance that got her contract with AAR broken. So here are the three most dangerous women I've had my picture taken with. My wife, Randi and Valerie Plame.






Whoa, Dude!
I invisioned you as a Zen Yogi kind of guy, but you look just like some of my friends!!
cinerex
aulander, welcome to the RRB. Having endured the flames here myself, I empathize with you. As you've no doubt found out, most people on this board don't do well with comments that are not in lock step with them and RR. It's good entertainment, but that is all it is. Take it for what it's worth.
martsmart
QUOTE (cinerex @ Aug 27 2008, 12:03 PM) *
aulander, welcome to the RRB. Having endured the flames here myself, I empathize with you. As you've no doubt found out, most people on this board don't do well with comments that are not in lock step with them and RR. It's good entertainment, but that is all it is. Take it for what it's worth.



So if that's how you feel, WTF are you back here, SOCK?

Yeah, post #1 again from another formerly banned asshat.


Ya know, this IS starting to get old, lol....

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TwinkleToes
QUOTE (cinerex @ Aug 27 2008, 12:03 PM) *
aulander, welcome to the RRB. Having endured the flames here myself, I empathize with you. As you've no doubt found out, most people on this board don't do well with comments that are not in lock step with them and RR. It's good entertainment, but that is all it is. Take it for what it's worth.



You've endured flames on your VERY FIRST POST?????? rofl.gif rofl.gif rofl.gif rofl.gif

You've been banned once - are you going for twice?? tongue.gif
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