Sarah Palin, Republican VP choice, a concern for environmentalists

Sarah Palin’s record is not extensive — just two years ago she was the mayor of a city of less than 10,000 people — but what her record indicates is troubling. This spring, she opposed the listing of polar bears as a ‘threatened’ species. She supports the brutal aerial hunting of wolves. And she has been a friend of Big Oil, opposing a windfall profits tax on the oil industry that could fund affordable clean energy for more Americans. Palin’s husband works for BP.”

yay, another winner of a reason why she and EVERYONE who supports this, sucks.

She is to the environment as big oil is to solar panels. This from an Alaskan. What offends her so much about nature? What is it about animals that she hates so much? Why does she hate wolves, who have never killed a single human being? Cattle, yes, but humans, never.

She is a total bitch, PETA can be extreme, but I hope they get Palin in their sights. Who would sue to get the polar bear off of the endangered species list unless they wanted to open up hunting season on them?

This is pretty gruesome to watch but I think it's necessary to see the unethical, unfair sport of aerial hunting that has been promoted throughout Alaska by Sarah Palin. It is from Defenders of Wildlife of an airplane running down a lone wolf shooting it, injuring it as it continues to run for its life until its shot dead.

Hard to watch.

PS; This policy has basically fueled the wolf hunting program in Idaho. Why Idaho?
Check out this list:

Dirk Kempthorne is former governor of Idaho and rushed into his appointment by Bush as Secy. of the Interior. The Secy. of Interior is over the USFWS.

Matthew J. Hogan, the former chief lobbyist for Safari Club International, is Acting Director of the USFWS.

Safari Club International, according to sourcewatch.com, consistently lobbies against the intent of the Endangered Species Act.

Butch Otter, governor of Idaho, is known for his desire to be the first person to take a shot at a wolf.

Sarah Palin graduated from the University of Idaho in 1987. She is the biggest catalyst in Alaska, along with SCI, for aerial hunting as a method for predator management—wolves.

Watch Video here -----------

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/6...4337/827/589043

plodder your link didn't work for me.

I watched a ideo of the hunting, though at another site. It's just about as canned s it can be without it actually being canned. they hunt the wolves in the winder when then the snow makes them more visible from the air...chase them out inot the open, runthem down till they are exahausted and then shoot. Often they only wound them, It's a slow and painful death cuz they use buck shot.

If they were using the meast for food, I wouldn't mund as much, but it appears they're just doing it for sport in a very unsportsmanlike way.

I am so repulsed by these people.

An idea occurred to me. If the Wolf preservation groups who tag and monitor wolves could somehow launch a program that would allow people to adopt a wolf. Then when a wolf is hunted down and killed/wounded and left to die for no good reason, the owner could press charges of some kind...I dunno, I haven't thought out all the details.

In areas where wolves are a problem with respect to nabbing cattle and such, I know there are effective programs in other states here wolves have been re-introduced.

Wolves don't normally attack humans so it just means the rancher have to be more vigilant .

Try this link -

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/6...4337/827/589043

She needs to be made to feel like a hunted wolf.

Whoa! Okay, I'm an Alaskan (currently, out of my preferred state, but looking for gainful employment to return) and Palin, I can tell you , is no Alaskan. She's one of the thousands of people who move from the Outside (everywhere that isn't Alaska is 'Outside,' everywhere in the contiguous states is, 'the Lower 48,' in Alaska parlance) to Alaska with the thought that it is still the Wild West. Unfortunately, a lot of these people are the squeeky wheel types and usually garner the press's ear because they are so damned annoying.

Palin most likely supports aerial hunting of wolves because wolves are smarter than the average game hunter. She may be wanting to bag a wolf for herself but does not have the necessary acumen to hunt this incredible animal. So, she, like most other hunters, would have to cheat and take to the air. Wolves don't like humans (at least, the ones here in the Americas don't) because, well, we have never really had to deal with one another -- unlike in Europe, where wolves and humans often competed for food sources. This is not to belittle the Guv's hunting prowess, just to point out the main differences between hunting large herbivores (moose, caribou), aquatic carnivores (seals, sea lions) and hunting a predator as intelligent and cunning as a wolf. Even hunting bear is not exactly easy -- though bear tend to be a bit larger and a bit easier to hunt as they are a bit like huge racoons . . . and, their curiosity (and omnivorous appetites) often gets them into trouble. That, and a lot of Outsiders tend to build their homes on well-defined bear paths (they are also notorious for taking the same route over and over and over, thereby wearing a noticible path to and from their destinations) with the typical outcome being that certain bears come barging through the new structure that is suddenly 'in their way.' These same Outsiders are often quite indignant that the bears would dare to barge right in like that . . . I generally tend to laugh and ask why these Outsiders would think that building on a bear trail would be a good idea. They get more upset that I have so callous an attitude and generally walk away.

People! It is not that wildlife is getting more numerous, it is that we keep expanding our populations and moving into the wildlife's neighborhood!

Misplaced, right on, and welcome to the board. You are bringing up the very points I have made here many times. As an avid hunter I understand the wiliness of the prey. Bears are indeed a member of the raccoon family by the body design. Wolves avoid people at all costs, that's why they need to use planes. As a working cowboy I traveled from Canada to Mexico, and very seldom did we have to shoot a wolf, usually they prey on older cattle in the winter when food is scarce. Palin needs to wake the fuck up, or just go away.

Hey, Tap! I've been around -- only haven't had too much to say until recently. Having spent most of my childhood and adolescence in the Bush, I know these animals well . . . mainly by their tracks as they don't like humans all that much. Unless that human happens to be part of the gene pool that Darwin would have said needed cleaning. As the human population grows, I am astonished to find so many people lacking the basic skills of survival! Common sense is no longer quite so common as it once was and the more we live outside of the natural balance of the food chain, the less able we, as a speicies, will be to survive outside the structure of our cities. Heh. Actually, wouldn't mind seeing this . . . be good for the darker side of my humor . . .

MA---Right on bro'. I've lived like you, my whole life living off the land. Or at least my livestock do. I'm proud to say, I have enlightened a few peeps along the way. I never got that far north, I'm too poor to pay for it, but the bush is the bush. Unless it's Shrub, than it's a weed, and should be pulled. I'd like to let lose some Grizzers in DC and clean it out.

Love the Geronimo Pic, so true, so true...

MisplacedAlaskan: TX so much for t\your feedback. Hope you find that job you're looking for soon

And welcome to the board. I used to spell better than I did in the top postie, but I got new keyboard and it's giving me problems, LOL...It's waterproof, but very silicony, and the touch is way off.

TX for the story about the outsiders...typical humancentric behavior. I can't stand people like that. If they'd do it to a bear, they'll do it to people, too. Arrogant pissants.

I bet you have lots of good stories!

My boyfriend is a n ex farmer, had a working farm for about thty years, I didn't know him then, he sold it before we met.

He told me though, now, in the state of NJ, where we live, the state can take away any person's live animals off of a reserve or farm if that animal "posses a risk to the community". It doesn't matter how many acres you have. Pretty fucked up, right? All because we have a local woman down here who rescued lions and one of her lions got loose. It didn't hurt anybody, just freaked people out. Now every farmer's live stock/ all live stock in the state is at risk thanks to a few "do gooders". That's Republican draconian governance at it's finest. So, now, even working farmland isn't safe from the developers

People either react with abhorrance or disbelief when I speak so plainly. While I am pro-choice and firmly against the death penalty, I do believe very strongly in 'survival of the fittest.' I am greatly dismayed by how litigious modern Americans are -- if a person is killed or maimed by using a device or vehicle outside the purveys and intended use of that device or vehicle, that person or their family should take personal responsibility for that person's obvious lack of common sense.

Yes, the Apache are a formidable opponent. Too bad the history books usually portray First Nation types as being the bad guys . . . after all, we were here before that little Spaniard lost his way and washed up down in the Caribbean. Yet, How dare we take the Euro-Americans' land before they knew it existed?

Yah-Tah-Hey!!! We are the invaders, and we should be punished. All others should be be held up as heroes.

Chiffon! Glad to hear from you!

Actually, I'm a bit of a socio-anthropologist, studying the ways of the Euro-American and his relationship in the dominant culture as well as in the myriad subcultures. I never cease to find humor! Especially when I also factor in his ability to survive outside of this culture/subculture.

One of the biggest lessons everyone with half a brain needs to know: we are all part of the ecosystem. If a major predator were to disappear, the herbivores would overpopulate and die. If the herbivores were to die, all the predators would die. But, if humans were to vanish from the earth, the other animals would go on just fine. We ain't nothin' to the whole natural order of things. We are just Mother Nature's favorite mistake.

Think that goes a bit far afield, punished. Nah, just fence in all the cities and give the rest back to the original inhabitants?

Course, then, the US government would be forced to admit that they took land in a wrongful manner and that the original inhabitants are owed some back rent . . . and, I do believe that Gail Norton has already mismanaged untold millions in reparations' repayments.

We in the Native community are beginning to stand up. It's taken a couple of decades to realize that we have spent the past four hundred fifty years as a battered spouse, but we are making up for lost time! But, surviving and overcoming such brutal domestic violence takes a bit of time.

Turning back to the discussion on Palin, I noticed how she tried to separate her "experience" by saying she has more "executive experience" than either Biden or Obama. I haven't heard many people mentioning the fact that one of the Vice Presidents roles is to be PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE!!! A legislative body!!! She would be the one to cast any tie-breaking votes in the senate. I know she's not aware of what a VP does (although it's written right there in the constitution, which you can find a complete copy of online for free), but don't you think America should be informed of this?

Welcome to the board! Not a bad point. But getting to there is the tricky part. It's hard to place the focus on the importance of the tie-breaking vote in the Senate without first conceding that such a vote would be necessary. And in the larger context of this election season the point is to win, and win big enough that such a role would be a moot point.

However another role the VP plays in the Senate is to be an additional whip. To get up there on the Hill and rally the troops to make the President's agenda become a reality. This makes for an opportunity to highlight how divisive Palin has been in her own state, pushing members of her own party aside and casting out the disloyal. A case could be made that her style of governing makes her particularly unfit for the role of bringing together a consensus when it is needed. Again, though, I think the people to whom that would matter most - the republican faithful - are already well aware that even should McCain win or steal this election they will be too far behind in Congress for a uniter to be of much use to them.

Ya that's right Tap. And she calls herself a lifelong hunter sportswoman...ya alot of sport in that. I did my share of hunting, deer and grouse, when I lived in Michigan. I have nothing at all against it. I still have old friends there that hunt and consume all the game they bag. They are real sporstmen that respect nature and all that it has to offer. To advocate killing wolves from the air is just another side of her two faces. Randi's right on as usual, McCain just wants an IDIOT...a yes woman. And if she had to assume the presidency, what would it be, burn the books, clearcut the forrests, etc. And the really wierd part is if she's so religious didn't God put all creatures on this earth to respect and for a reason, to maintain a balance of nature. Strange Days Indeed...

Sarah Palin_aka wanna_ B_Evita Peron is Fascist. She may not know that yet, but that's what her politix suggests. Either she's smart and knows exactly what is happening (very hard to believe) or she's too stupid to realize she's a tool of the Saudi's

A Maverick is aka a branded calf

I can only agree with you to a point. I heard her state time and time again in that speech she gave how she has so much more executive experience when she is at the same disadvantage as the other side. She has no legislative experience. And that experience is needed for her role, should she be elected. I'm not confident she will be, but you never know. It's still something that should be mentioned because I'll bet there are plenty of Americans who also don't know what the VP does.

From what I understand of her, she doesn't read, she's reactionary..just the sort Repukes control.


Sarah Palin is a Repuke tool whose groomed to Catapult that propaganda 'cuz it's troo.

Sarah Palin = Ma Ketttle:

Ma & Pa Math Repuklicant math.