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Beryl
Will this story grow legs or will only the supermarket rags carry it before election day?

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The issues that are troubling and need to be addressed by Gov. Palin:

* Travelling to Dallas at 36 weeks in the first place
* Not going directly to a Dallas hospital once her water broke which would be standard procedure per a number of posts from doctors and newspaper articles
* Flying home 10-12 hours with fluid leaking risking infection and delivery in transit
* Not telling the Airline
* Bypassing the premier area hospital - Providence
o 15 minutes from the Anchorage airport (vs. over an hour to your own w/ no NICU)
o With a NICU to handle a 36 week preemie w/ the double risk of Downs Syndrome baby
o That your OB/GYN was on the staff of
* Dr. Johnson, a practicing OB/GYN, is an expert in child and adult sexual abuse,
o What does this mean if anything to the situation?
* Baby delivered in the local hospital by this "expert" even though it was supposedly 4 weeks premature and had Downs Syndrome
* Returning to work after 3 days off after this ordeal
* Running for VP with a new special needs baby

All makes this whole thing sound really fishy...

In the least I would ask all of you does this type of risky behavior and poor decision making as it relates to Sarah Palin's own family make you comfortable that she can be VP let alone a "heartbeat away from the Presidency"? I hope that that is all this turns out to be, but I doubt it will.
shorebird
QUOTE (Beryl @ Aug 31 2008, 07:42 PM) *
Will this story grow legs or will only the supermarket rags carry it before election day?

Perhaps she knew the child was going to be a Down Syndrome and was not very careful hoping for a bad outcome? "God's will." If, in fact, she was ever pregnant, which is seriously doubted.
Kathleen
I didn't know that the airlines would let anyone fly after 7 months, let alone while in labor!
shorebird
QUOTE (Kathleen @ Aug 31 2008, 08:08 PM) *
I didn't know that the airlines would let anyone fly after 7 months, let alone while in labor!

Per the stories circulating on the internet she didn't tell them she was in labor and the air crew members are quoted as saying they didn't notice that she was in any kind of distress or pregnant.
tompkr
nobody would get on a plane after the water breaks : is she superwoman
martsmart
Is anybody tracking down the doctors, nurses and other medical personnel involved?

Or are they just not talking?

I am really anxious to see all this actually followed up.

Somehow, I get the feeling we are gonna have a lot of "no comments" and "we have to respect her privacy" shit thrown at the public.

Now just why would I feel that way, lol...?


jkun17
found this tasty morsel on the internets
martsmart
QUOTE (jkun17 @ Aug 31 2008, 08:20 PM) *
found this tasty morsel on the internets



Priceless!

The whole think just smells fishy.

(Did I really say that?)

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tompkr
she is a right wing whack job and is a tool .... something is not quite right with her story ........ texas to alaska after your water broke WTF we should be all questioning this
MavericksHMB
QUOTE (martsmart @ Aug 31 2008, 08:24 PM) *
Priceless!

The whole think just smells fishy.

(Did I really say that?)

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I would expect nothing less from you, Mart! laugh.gif

As a mom, here's what I'm thinking. With each pregnancy, the length of labor shortens. This was supposedly her FIFTH child?!?! And she waits for 10 - 12 hours after her water breaks to get to a hospital?

You're right, Mart. It stinks. Plus, pictures taken of her at the time she was supposedly 7 months pregnant show NO baby bump. So I'm not buying it.

Just what this country needs in another rethuglican VEEP: A LIAR! Oh wait... we've got one of those now!

jkun17
Even if the kid really is hers, at the very least she is a totally incompetent mother.
RandiLover
Wonder woman flies 12 hours on invisible jet, news at 10!
tompkr
jkun17 you hit this one out of the ball park : special needs baby 7 mo. old and superwoman thinks ok i can be vp ....does she breast feed at 44 .... no boobies ?
jkun17
You know, in all honesty I don't even really care if it is true. This is hilarious.
Belldoll
QUOTE (MavericksHMB @ Aug 31 2008, 08:39 PM) *
I would expect nothing less from you, Mart! laugh.gif

As a mom, here's what I'm thinking. With each pregnancy, the length of labor shortens. This was supposedly her FIFTH child?!?! And she waits for 10 - 12 hours after her water breaks to get to a hospital?

You're right, Mart. It stinks. Plus, pictures taken of her at the time she was supposedly 7 months pregnant show NO baby bump. So I'm not buying it.

Just what this country needs in another rethuglican VEEP: A LIAR! Oh wait... we've got one of those now!


Very interesting...

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...but stupid
tompkr
it is really fu_ked up, but look who picked her.. not mc cain.... they need more shit to worry about
martsmart
QUOTE (MavericksHMB @ Aug 31 2008, 08:39 PM) *
I would expect nothing less from you, Mart! laugh.gif


Thanks, Mavs.

You always make my day.

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NoYards
OK, there is another thread on the topic but I guess no one wants to wade trough 20+ pages to find the details, so here's my understanding of the situation.

First off, there are basically three ways this story seems to be heading.

1st way is that this is indeed Sarah's baby and her judgment while incredibly stupid from a normal person's view was actually made under the supervision (at least partially) of her doctor ... there were statements from her doctor about the birth which basically said the birth was successful, it had to be induced, and both mother and child were doing fine.

2nd way is that the baby is not Sarah's but really her daughters and Sarah is covering up for an embarrassing situation where an "abstinence only" family learns the hard lesson of how well that works. The rest of the story I won't go into right now as it's well "documented" in other threads on this board.

A dailyKos blogger has a pretty good outline of this theory, including pretty well all the relevant pictures posted here.

3rd way this story could go, and seems to be at least as likely as the 2nd option is that both Sarah and her daughter were pregnant, the daughter being still pregnant, and in recent public appearances is actually always seen holding Sarah's new born baby along with a blanket that fully covers her front and hiding her now obvious "baby bump". (also note in that picture her "ring finger" ... congratulation on your marriage/engagement, glad to see the father has decided to do the right thing.)

USA1
QUOTE (martsmart @ Aug 31 2008, 11:19 PM) *
Is anybody tracking down the doctors, nurses and other medical personnel involved?

Or are they just not talking?

I am really anxious to see all this actually followed up.

Somehow, I get the feeling we are gonna have a lot of "no comments" and "we have to respect her privacy" shit thrown at the public.

Now just why would I feel that way, lol...?



Medical Information Falls Under HIPPA (Health Insurance Privacy Protection Act) ... If your wife has a problem she has to authorize you to be able to see her records.

If you had AIDS, your wife couldn't see your records. Certain employees can not see your records (Claims data) and they are supposed to be uder lock and key with limited access.

It's the law. That's the HIPPA law. It protects the individual over a Co. or even a Spouse. It actually is good, because it refuses to discriminate. Although ... Certain Co. Employees have access to records to a point. HR & Benefits Personnel usually at the HQ have claims access. But Not Actual Doctor's Records.

SO ... Good Luck On This FISHING EXPEDITION.
USA1
QUOTE (Beryl @ Aug 31 2008, 10:42 PM) *
Will this story grow legs or will only the supermarket rags carry it before election day?


But there is no denying that there is some strong circumstantial evidence.

TRUELY !!
Kathleen
QUOTE (shorebird @ Aug 31 2008, 08:15 PM) *
Per the stories circulating on the internet she didn't tell them she was in labor and the air crew members are quoted as saying they didn't notice that she was in any kind of distress or pregnant.

So she LIED to the Airline Staff? Oh I'm sorry, witheld the truth.
Belldoll
QUOTE (Beryl @ Aug 31 2008, 07:42 PM) *
Will this story grow legs or will only the supermarket rags carry it before election day?


The National Enquirer ruined (broke the story) John Edwards, so it can happen.
tompkr
i have been looking thru anything i could find on the net .... nothing so far to rebuke the story.. does anyone know any repug blogs. it is now sept 1st. labor day if they dont say something about this story, it is going to take on a life of its own on tuesday. did the story come from alaska ? it is crazy if true and can do major damage to gop
tompkr
i guess the story did come from alaska and started in april : this is crazy : no mother would fly if she was leaking : no doctor would let her on a plane : contractions 1 to 2 hrs. apart........... this cannot be the truth
QBC
QUOTE (tompkr @ Sep 1 2008, 12:31 AM) *
i have been looking thru anything i could find on the net .... nothing so far to rebuke the story.. does anyone know any repug blogs. it is now sept 1st. labor day if they dont say something about this story, it is going to take on a life of its own on tuesday. did the story come from alaska ? it is crazy if true and can do major damage to gop


This story was beat to death here.

http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/index...7420&st=400

Carmen puts it to bed in post #411.


NoYards
QUOTE (QBC @ Sep 1 2008, 08:12 AM) *
This story was beat to death here.

http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/index...7420&st=400

Carmen puts it to bed in post #411.


Hardly, "wet nurses" can lactate without having be been recently pregnant ... normally all it takes is regular suckling, but now a days there are even drugs that one can take to help the process.
QBC
QUOTE (NoYards @ Sep 1 2008, 07:23 AM) *
Hardly, "wet nurses" can lactate without having be been recently pregnant ... normally all it takes is regular suckling, but now a days there are even drugs that one can take to help the process.


The story was put to bed for most posters. It is no surprise that there will be a handful of die hard conspiracy theorists who just won't be deterred. rofl.gif
NoYards
Yeah, just another 5 pages of posts on that thread, and 2 or 3 new threads on the subject in the last 16 or so hours (including the always busy early moring hours when everyone is asleep.)

If this story has been "put to bed" then it's been making "nasty sex" all night long .... hope it didn't wake the neighbours.
theoldcreak
QUOTE (tompkr @ Sep 1 2008, 01:31 AM) *
i have been looking thru anything i could find on the net .... nothing so far to rebuke the story.. does anyone know any repug blogs. it is now sept 1st. labor day if they dont say something about this story, it is going to take on a life of its own on tuesday. did the story come from alaska ? it is crazy if true and can do major damage to gop


LABOR DAY. How appropriate! cool.gif
cthulhu
There is not evidence. Only internet rumor.


SARAH PALIN GIVES BIRTH TO BAT BOY


QBC
QUOTE (NoYards @ Sep 1 2008, 07:43 AM) *
Yeah, just another 5 pages of posts on that thread, and 2 or 3 new threads on the subject in the last 16 or so hours (including the always busy early moring hours when everyone is asleep.)

If this story has been "put to bed" then it's been making "nasty sex" all night long .... hope it didn't wake the neighbours.


If you take a look at that last few pages following Carmen's post, you will find the typical post discussion wandering into many unrealted topics. I like to refer to it as playing patty cake.

In terms of new threads on the topic, that is typical when a new thread originator is not aware there are other threads on the topic. I'm kind of expecting the mods to merge the threads eventually.
NoYards
There is a difference between "evidence" and "proof" ... what has been presented on the Internet concerning the Palin pregnancy includes its fair share of "evidence", as of yet the "proof" of the matter is still missing ... for instance, you too can provide "evidence" that her story is as she claims, but unless you bring something new to the table you will not be able to provide "proof".

QBC
QUOTE (NoYards @ Sep 1 2008, 08:05 AM) *
There is a difference between "evidence" and "proof" ... what has been presented on the Internet concerning the Palin pregnancy includes its fair share of "evidence", as of yet the "proof" of the matter is still missing ... for instance, you too can provide "evidence" that her story is as she claims, but unless you bring something new to the table you will not be able to provide "proof".


The only ones pursuing this are those on the hard left who have nothing better to do than to attempt to beat this women to a pulp. Why would anyone outside of the left wing blogosphere give this ridiculous story any attention at all. There is no story, and thus there is nothing to prove. rolleyes.gif
cthulhu
As a member of the hard left I am more concerned with the violation of the free speech
of the Green party by the Ramsey County sheriff's dept.

The hazardous materials unit of the fire department was called because Green Party
leaflets for distribution were in someone garage. Kryptonite bike locks were seized
because they might be used to chain demonstrators to Republicans.

The idea that Green Party members might want to lock up their bikes
was not mentioned. It was a way to stop Green Party members from
traveling downtown without losing bikes.


The hard left has enough real grievances

This tabloid crap is the work of Obamabots who have no ideology


only a cult loyalty to their charismatic rock idol.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ux3-a9RE1Q...feature=related

Wanna see my picture on the cover
wanna buy five copies for my mother
wanna see my smiling face
on the cover of the rolling stone
theoldcreak
QUOTE (QBC @ Sep 1 2008, 09:13 AM) *
The only ones pursuing this are those on the hard left who have nothing better to do than to attempt to beat this women to a pulp. Why would anyone outside of the left wing blogosphere give this ridiculous story any attention at all. There is no story, and thus there is nothing to prove. rolleyes.gif


Poor put-upon Repubs. owned.gif
toptier
QUOTE (QBC @ Sep 1 2008, 08:34 AM) *
The story was put to bed for most posters. It is no surprise that there will be a handful of die hard conspiracy theorists who just won't be deterred. rofl.gif



No it wasn't. It was only "put to bed" by you and some others who have no interest in it.

Why it rattles your cage that there are those of us who find this intriguing is another question entirely, but I'm really disappointed in the Room Mother mentality where posters such as yourself feel the compelling need to admonish us regarding what we can and can't or should or shouldn't discuss during our Internet Time.

Thanks for the tongue clucking and tsk-tsking, Mom, but we'll stop discussing this when we feel like doing so.

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NoYards
QUOTE (QBC @ Sep 1 2008, 09:13 AM) *
The only ones pursuing this are those on the hard left who have nothing better to do than to attempt to beat this women to a pulp. Why would anyone outside of the left wing blogosphere give this ridiculous story any attention at all. There is no story, and thus there is nothing to prove. rolleyes.gif


Then it's no skin off your ass, or the ass of anyone else, if we continue to discuss this "ridiculous" story then is it?

Suggestion - stop wasting so much time refuting and/or ridiculing stories that will obviously get no attention outside of the left wing blogosphere and concentrate on bringing your superior opinion to bare on important issues you feel will make it to the MSM.
toptier
QUOTE (QBC @ Sep 1 2008, 09:13 AM) *
The only ones pursuing this are those on the hard left who have nothing better to do than to attempt to beat this women to a pulp. Why would anyone outside of the left wing blogosphere give this ridiculous story any attention at all. There is no story, and thus there is nothing to prove. rolleyes.gif



Not a leftie. Again, thanks for the finger-lashing, Mom.

Don't you have some brownies to bake or something?
toptier
QUOTE (NoYards @ Sep 1 2008, 10:01 AM) *
Suggestion - stop wasting so much time refuting and/or ridiculing stories that will obviously get no attention outside of the left wing blogosphere and concentrate on bringing your superior opinion to bare on important issues you feel will make it to the MSM.



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rofl.gif rofl.gif rofl.gif rofl.gif rofl.gif

"snarf*

WestPalmBeachLiberal


Well, this is fascinating in a way- the sheer audacity of the claims make it so. I doubt it is true, but at the very least the whole airline flight thing is bizzare.

But, before anyone on the right gets all indignant- let's go thru some recent history:

Obama is a Muslim
Obama got sworn in to Congress on the Koran
Obama wasn't born in the US

and I'm sure there are others that I forgot.
QBC
QUOTE (WestPalmBeachLiberal @ Sep 1 2008, 09:10 AM) *
Well, this is fascinating in a way- the sheer audacity of the claims make it so. I doubt it is true, but at the very least the whole airline flight thing is bizzare.

But, before anyone on the right gets all indignant- let's go thru some recent history:

Obama is a Muslim
Obama got sworn in to Congress on the Koran
Obama wasn't born in the US

and I'm sure there are others that I forgot.


Yep. No dispute there are those on the hard right who spend a lot of their time trying to beat Obama to a pulp. I don't condone this activity and certainly don't participate in it.
QBC
QUOTE (toptier @ Sep 1 2008, 09:01 AM) *
No it wasn't. It was only "put to bed" by you and some others who have no interest in it.


Even in this thread, I don't see much actual discussion regarding Palin's pregnancy. It looks like I have suddenly become the topic of interest. biggrin.gif

WestPalmBeachLiberal
But, with the Obama attacks, they were based on xenophobia and racism. Here, it is just plain gossip.

Anyone else think that nothing is going to break in this election until the first debate?
NoYards
QUOTE (WestPalmBeachLiberal @ Sep 1 2008, 10:10 AM) *
Well, this is fascinating in a way- the sheer audacity of the claims make it so. I doubt it is true, but at the very least the whole airline flight thing is bizzare.

But, before anyone on the right gets all indignant- let's go thru some recent history:

Obama is a Muslim
Obama got sworn in to Congress on the Koran
Obama wasn't born in the US

and I'm sure there are others that I forgot.


Yes, you forgot the National Enquirer story about Edwards having an affair.
cthulhu
It's not racism or zenuphobia [fear of Mormons?]

it is BARACKNOPHOBIA



Illustration from the Anansi Boys by Neal Gaimon
QBC
QUOTE (cthulhu @ Sep 1 2008, 09:34 AM) *
It's not racism or zenuphobia [fear of Mormons?]

it is BARACKNOPHOBIA



Illustration from the Anansi Boys by Neal Gaimon


Another classic. thumbsup.gif
toptier
QUOTE (QBC @ Sep 1 2008, 10:26 AM) *
Even in this thread, I don't see much actual discussion regarding Palin's pregnancy. It looks like I have suddenly become the topic of interest. biggrin.gif



Duh, which was apparently your goal to begin with.

I am discussing the topic in the other, larger thread.

and if there is a LULL in the conversation about it, it's simply because we must wait for additional information, if any rises out of the muck and mire.

You seem to be monitoring threads about which you see no "man behind the curtain" with more interest than your own claims of disinterest reveal.
Kane
Maybe I've been watching to much news coverage of the hurricane, but when I read "Water Break-Gate" I thought it was a discussion about the levee.

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cthulhu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HutE0y96fkY
Sarah by Eskimo Joe


Emergency
I think I am falling apart
Emergency
I think I am losing the fight
And I don't know if I can do it
I don't know if I can try
I don't know if anyone asked me the reason I lied
McCain sighed

Sarah
Is she your new best friend?
One day it will end, you know it will
You're so shy
So just let it fall apart
Let it stumble in the dark
With the razors in your heart
A long, long, long, long time ago

toptier
QUOTE (Kane @ Sep 1 2008, 10:43 AM) *
Maybe I've been watching to much news coverage of the hurricane, but when I read "Water Break-Gate" I thought it was a discussion about the levee.

huh.gif


rofl.gif

For some women, same-same!

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