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theoldcreak
Does anyone have any info/links that show what, if any, vetting was done by McCain? It seems very little was done. If so, another indication of his lack of judgement.
QBC
QUOTE (theoldcreak @ Sep 1 2008, 08:04 AM) *
Does anyone have any info/links that show what, if any, vetting was done by McCain? It seems very little was done. If so, another indication of his lack of judgement.


Would you really expect behind the scenes vetting into someone's private life to be made public by either the Obama or McCain campaign?. The absence of any information regarding the vetting of Palin in the the MSM doesn't mean there wasn't any.
theoldcreak
QUOTE (QBC @ Sep 1 2008, 09:07 AM) *
Would you really expect behind the scenes vetting into someone's private life to be made public by either the Obama or McCain campaign?. The absence of any information regarding the vetting of Palin in the the MSM doesn't mean there wasn't any.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/31/m...h_n_122823.html

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/...it-palin-ve.php

Who said anything about MSM?
QBC
QUOTE (theoldcreak @ Sep 1 2008, 08:14 AM) *


I didn't realize you were looking for left wing links, speculating on whether she was vetted or not.
CWV
QUOTE (QBC @ Sep 1 2008, 09:22 AM) *
I didn't realize you were looking for left wing links, speculating on whether she was vetted or not.


As if the MSM would be honest.
theoldcreak
QUOTE (QBC @ Sep 1 2008, 09:22 AM) *
I didn't realize you were looking for left wing links, speculating on whether she was vetted or not.


A Republican official was quoted. Oh, that's right, if its not MSM its speculation. WOW!
NoYards
Well, obviously they didn't even vet Palin's ass, as McCain had to do that himself during her acceptance speech.
rowdyroddypiper
QUOTE (NoYards @ Sep 1 2008, 08:35 AM) *
Well, obviously they didn't even vet Palin's ass, as McCain had to do that himself during her acceptance speech.

lol i thought the same thing. sure seemed like he was into it. biggrin.gif
middleoftheroad
QUOTE (theoldcreak @ Sep 1 2008, 06:04 AM) *
Does anyone have any info/links that show what, if any, vetting was done by McCain? It seems very little was done. If so, another indication of his lack of judgement.


According to this article, she was vetted by the FBI and has actually been on his list from the beginning.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...3002377_pf.html
QBC
QUOTE (theoldcreak @ Sep 1 2008, 08:31 AM) *
A Republican official was quoted. Oh, that's right, if its not MSM its speculation. WOW!


As purported in the TPM Cafe. Would sure like more supporting documentation, regarding who this supposed official is and whether or not the official is really in a position to know.
middleoftheroad
QUOTE (theoldcreak @ Sep 1 2008, 06:04 AM) *
Does anyone have any info/links that show what, if any, vetting was done by McCain? It seems very little was done. If so, another indication of his lack of judgement.


Speaking of vetting. According to this article, Obama came up with the fact that Biden received the same number of deferements as Cheney. He was later disqualified from service for Asthma. I believe I have seen a lot of people blast Cheney on this board over the years for his deferments and also against Bush. I'm sure the response will be different for Biden though.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation/story/776181.html
NamelessGenXer
QUOTE (QBC @ Sep 1 2008, 09:07 AM) *
Would you really expect behind the scenes vetting into someone's private life to be made public by either the Obama or McCain campaign?. The absence of any information regarding the vetting of Palin in the the MSM doesn't mean there wasn't any.


{ Whassamatta, QBC? You a-sceered? }
QBC
QUOTE (middleoftheroad @ Sep 1 2008, 09:26 AM) *
According to this article, she was vetted by the FBI and has actually been on his list from the beginning.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...3002377_pf.html


Thanks middleoftheroad.

And yet another conspiracy is put to bed....

Or at least one would think so. smile.gif
QBC
QUOTE (NamelessGenXer @ Sep 1 2008, 09:33 AM) *
{ Whassamatta, QBC? You a-sceered? }


Of what??
NoYards
I can certainly accept that she was vetted and that her being under investigation for abuse of power was not seen as a disqualifying factor. Matter of fact, it may have been looked at as a positive factor by the Republicans.
IVEATCH
QUOTE (QBC @ Sep 1 2008, 10:33 AM) *
Thanks middleoftheroad.

And yet another conspiracy is put to bed....

Or at least one would think so. smile.gif


THE FBI IS IN ON IT!!!!! WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT AN AGENCY THAT HELPED BRING DOWN THE TWIN TOWERS WOULD BE HONEST ABOUT PALIN!!!!!!!!

Whoops, sorry about that QBC, maybe I've been hangin' out at too many Progressive forums. wink.gif
middleoftheroad
QUOTE (NoYards @ Sep 1 2008, 07:42 AM) *
I can certainly accept that she was vetted and that her being under investigation for abuse of power was not seen as a disqualifying factor. Matter of fact, it may have been looked at as a positive factor by the Republicans.


She was alleged to have used her position to attempt to get her state trooper in-law fired. He was suspended and the reason was he used a stun gun on a 10 year old boy. I would be upset if she didnt.
theoldcreak
QUOTE (middleoftheroad @ Sep 1 2008, 10:46 AM) *
She was alleged to have used her position to attempt to get her state trooper in-law fired. He was suspended and the reason was he used a stun gun on a 10 year old boy. I would be upset if she didnt.



I've never meet a Republican who didn't support a little abuse of power, especially when the intentions are so noble. wacko.gif
theoldcreak
QUOTE (QBC @ Sep 1 2008, 10:33 AM) *
Thanks middleoftheroad.

And yet another conspiracy is put to bed....

Or at least one would think so. smile.gif


I apologize. McCain obviously did some serious sweating......er, I mean vetting!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RN5xbWtNSU
shorebird
QUOTE (middleoftheroad @ Sep 1 2008, 07:26 AM) *
According to this article, she was vetted by the FBI and has actually been on his list from the beginning.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...3002377_pf.html

That's really saying something if she turned out to be the least damaging of the original vetting list.
toptier
QUOTE (rowdyroddypiper @ Sep 1 2008, 09:41 AM) *
lol i thought the same thing. sure seemed like he was into it. biggrin.gif



I dunno, I thought I saw his lips moving as she was telepromting. Like he wrote it and he was making sure she was reading it right . . . .
toptier
QUOTE (middleoftheroad @ Sep 1 2008, 10:32 AM) *
Speaking of vetting. According to this article, Obama came up with the fact that Biden received the same number of deferements as Cheney. He was later disqualified from service for Asthma. I believe I have seen a lot of people blast Cheney on this board over the years for his deferments and also against Bush. I'm sure the response will be different for Biden though.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation/story/776181.html



No, you are (yet again) wholesaley mistaken.

People weren't b'tchin' and moanin' simply over the matter of their deferments or lack of service, they were cracking on the fact that these Chickenhawks did their darnedest not to serve and yet are quick with the trigger to shove our kids into the line of fire.

And rightly so.

Oh, and couple that with the fact that they think a wide list of people who did serve, and many with distinction, are not "patriotic enough."

What a dog poopy brain you have!

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shorebird
How about this conspiracy theory?

The Convention is scheduled for Monday.

Gustav is coming and will upstage it. Headline grabbing story is needed.

They name Palin, the fundie that McCain has only met once, as their VP girl.

They turn the first day of the Convention into a fund raiser so the fundies will donate big time.

Gobs of fundie cash rolls in.

Palin was thoroughly vetted and they knew that the shit was about to hit the fan.

Palin gracefully declines the nomination stating the usual excuse of Republicans who are caught in a compromising positon, "I need to spend time with my family."

McCain's puppets then get the VP they really wanted.


bushwa
QUOTE (QBC @ Sep 1 2008, 06:07 AM) *
Would you really expect behind the scenes vetting into someone's private life to be made public by either the Obama or McCain campaign?. The absence of any information regarding the vetting of Palin in the the MSM doesn't mean there wasn't any.



I would expect that the holders of the hard copy archives of the newspaper of record for the community where she served on the city council would have seen McCain staffers looking through them. That didn't happen. I would expect McCain's staff to have asked Palin's office to provide everything from birth records to report cards, to college transcripts, to campaign literature. According to Palin's staff, the ONLY material Palin was asked to provide were copies of campaign speeches she gave in 2006.

I would have expected that the primary accuser of Palin in the State Police scandal would have been contacted. He says he wasn't. I would have expected that vetting would have allowed McCain's staff to tell the press on the day of the announcement what policies they agree on. Instead, the campaign's spokes people pleaded with the press to understand that they knew nothing about Palin, to the extent that they couldn't even say when or how often the two had met. I would expect that, upon introducing the pick, McCain and his staff could have slipped in the happy news that the VP candidate is soon to be a grandmother, due to the joyous news that her oldest daughter is five months pregnant.

There is NO way the general public would be privy to every detail and effort involved in a vetting process. On the other hand, there has always been lots of evidence of the vetting process, from friends and neighbors who talk about having been interviewed, to offices and entities who acknowledge that they've been asked for records.

McCain's camp apparently asked for some copies of her speeches, and there is no other evidence I've seen or heard of anything else like a vetting process. Moreover, premised upon the dairy disaster, the state police scandal, the way the disclosure about her daughter has been handled (and we're four freaking days into it!), there's ample good reason to believe that there was virtually no vetting of Palin. Indeed, the first day the McCain campaign was spelling her name incorrectly, dropping the H from her first name.

karaplanet


What vetting process.....


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bushwa
For what it's worth, McCain's staff insists there was an in-depth review of all things Palin well before her selection on Thursday. The problem remains that it appears to have been a vetting process that went unnoticed by many closest to Palin, and Palin herself, and it left no footprints after it was completed. Finally, it appears some significant issues were allegedly well known, and supposedly caused no concern whatsoever.

Whether we're talking about those who underwent Obama's process, or even GWB's - headed up by Dick Cheney - history is rife with potential picks marveling at the number of questions the were asked, the depth of the investigations and the obscure facts uncovered. Remember, before we knew of Palin's selection, Kaine said the review of him by Obama's crew was so complete that he was asked for the middle name of his high school girlfriend. And once she was contacted by the team, they came back and confronted him with news that she didn't recall dating him. Again, BEFORE Palin was announced, Biden, too, spoke of the intense investigation to which he was subjected, and the depth of the questions he was asked.

Can anyone else recall an example of a candidate for an appointment or nomination anywhere in federal government where those around the candidate had no idea there was a vetting process underway?

Personally, as vehement (and, frankly, sincere) as the assurances are that Palin underwent scrupulous investigation, there appears to be none of the customary evidence supporting those claims.

I think it's reasonable to conclude the claims are, at least in large part, lies. To my mind, this is entirely too reminiscent of countless episodes seen in the last 8 years.

Say, the man put in charge of Palin's vetting wasn't Michael Brown, the esteemed horse show organizer, was it?


nneptune
QUOTE (NoYards @ Sep 1 2008, 09:42 AM) *
I can certainly accept that she was vetted and that her being under investigation for abuse of power was not seen as a disqualifying factor. Matter of fact, it may have been looked at as a positive factor by the Republicans.


sad, but true.
Under investigation? Lots of troubles? Let's pick her! hahahahahaha!
NoYards
So during this vetting process they actually asked if anyone that shouldn't be pregnant is pregnant in the Palin family?

They must have as McCain says he already knew about this.

So if this was part of the Republican vetting process, wouldn't this be none of their business? Just as it is supposedly none of our business?

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