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nneptune
Any bets?
How long do you think we'll have to be faced with the ignorant pick of Palin by McCain.
Grandpa is bad enough. His gimmick is pathetic.
Does anyone feel she'll be dropped from the ticket rather quickly?

Here's hoping...
SandraS
QUOTE (nneptune @ Sep 1 2008, 07:57 PM) *
Any bets?
How long do you think we'll have to be faced with the ignorant pick of Palin by McCain.
Grandpa is bad enough. His gimmick is pathetic.
Does anyone feel she'll be dropped from the ticket rather quickly?

Here's hoping...

I wouldn't put anything past Karl Rove's tactics. These people are desparate and will do ANYTHING - constitution be damned.

Palin's pick was pure and simple Rovian dirty politics. She is just another right wing good old boy in a skirt and will toe whatever line she is told to do by Rove. Hopefully thinking women in America will not buy into this.

As far as Rovian and other right wing criticisms of Obama as a Socialist, I'm not sure what they are intimating, but if they want to call names, I would imagine fascism fits the bill in describing Republicans.

In terms of the claim that jobs will be lost if corporate taxes are raised - same old scare tactic by Repos. Maybe some jobs will be lost but they will be replaced by the new energy technology and those corporations will get substantial tax breaks. What the Repos can't accept is that major changes are needed, and they will be kicking and screaming as they are pulled from their privileged monopolies in oil and corporate monoliths.

Palin and many dumbed down Repubs have bought into Repub short-sighted schemes and Palin is just another tool at the hands of the males she serves. As long as she serves their purpose, Rove will keep her in.....unless the baggage she's left behind in Alaska comes to haunt her and hurt him and McSame. Obama is a very intellligent and smart person. If anybody can overcome the abomination that is Rove, he can.

Every Democrat in America must vote this year. If we do, we will win.
FanFiltration
QUOTE (SandraS @ Sep 1 2008, 11:23 PM) *
Every Democrat in America must vote this year. If we do, we will win.


And you think they are going to let every Democrat vote? I don't think so. Remember they love to prevent African American people from voting, and I'm sure that will be the same this year. We have not seen the worst of it yet. They will pull every trick in their play book this year, and in plane sight too. This is going to get ugly, very very ugly.
RandiLover
Are they really going to grab this woman and make her their candidate? This is absolutely insane. It shows just how much fore thought these people give life and liberty. As usual, they try to throw our money at it. You can lawyer up all you want, putting dog crap in a decorated box does not change the contents. I guess all that money they threw at Diebolt is going to pay off after all.
NEM
I believe that everyone in the RNC knows she should be dropped, but they wont do it. If they do, the election is over.
calliope
I know it's impolite to gloat, but I have to. Just for a second....it's just too good. Man, did the GOP stick their (cloven) hooves in it this time. Can't wait to watch the fireworks - now that the long holiday weekend is over, the news cycle will start afresh and Palin will be thoroughly discredited by the end of the week!

But I also think NEM is right - the GOP knows they should drop her, but doing so would be an admission of complete & utter failure. They will ride it out with Palin, complete lack of vetting be damned, and they'll suffer for it. What a delicious bit of karma -- being forced to sink, in slow motion, with a huge Alaskan millstone around their necks. Good. Serves 'em right.

Obama-Biden '08! Let's seal the deal and fight back on every dirty smear while Barack keeps his campaign on the high road. Meanwhile, his surrogates (and all of us disenchanted Americans from coast to coast) can throw a few punches to make up for the last eight years of GOP-sponsored bungling, waste, and mismanagement.
GCurry
QUOTE (calliope @ Sep 1 2008, 10:37 PM) *
I know it's impolite to gloat, but I have to. Just for a second....it's just too good. Man, did the GOP stick their (cloven) hooves in it this time. Can't wait to watch the fireworks - now that the long holiday weekend is over, the news cycle will start afresh and Palin will be thoroughly discredited by the end of the week!

But I also think NEM is right - the GOP knows they should drop her, but doing so would be an admission of complete & utter failure. They will ride it out with Palin, complete lack of vetting be damned, and they'll suffer for it. What a delicious bit of karma -- being forced to sink, in slow motion, with a huge Alaskan millstone around their necks. Good. Serves 'em right.

Obama-Biden '08! Let's seal the deal and fight back on every dirty smear while Barack keeps his campaign on the high road. Meanwhile, his surrogates (and all of us disenchanted Americans from coast to coast) can throw a few punches to make up for the last eight years of GOP-sponsored bungling, waste, and mismanagement.

Yup.
bushwa
QUOTE (NEM @ Sep 1 2008, 09:28 PM) *
I believe that everyone in the RNC knows she should be dropped...


If they do, they sure seem to have been doing a good job of concealing it in every interview I saw today. No ifs, ands or buts that I heard, whether from righty standard bearers or average Joes and Janes on the floor.

carmenjonze
QUOTE (bushwa @ Sep 2 2008, 12:27 AM) *
If they do, they sure seem to have been doing a good job of concealing it in every interview I saw today. No ifs, ands or buts that I heard, whether from righty standard bearers or average Joes and Janes on the floor.


I have been talking to the Joes and Janes in Flyover, USA for the past couple days, and they are tripping all over themselves trying to do damage control for what even the most brain-stagnant of them know instinctively is an inferior VP choice.

I think the rhetoric has unofficially been ratcheted up to too high a pitch for them to keep up. It's actually sad and funny at the same time. Their arguments are all over the map - from pro-choice arguments about Bristol to the usual "Jeremiah Wright/Michelle hates America" b.s. to total dismissal of the importance of the VP position, entirely.

I still stick by what I was saying on Friday -- the choice of Sarah Palin for VP is excellent news for liberals, and the Obama campaign. It's splitting the GOP into 8 million different splinters, and uniting Democrats all the more.

Who knew she would provide us with such wonderful fodder to get us all in a good mood.
brotherdavid
QUOTE (carmenjonze @ Sep 2 2008, 12:45 AM) *
I have been talking to the Joes and Janes in Flyover, USA for the past couple days, and they are tripping all over themselves trying to do damage control for what even the most brain-stagnant of them know instinctively is an inferior VP choice.

I think the rhetoric has unofficially been ratcheted up to too high a pitch for them to keep up. It's actually sad and funny at the same time. Their arguments are all over the map - from pro-choice arguments about Bristol to the usual "Jeremiah Wright/Michelle hates America" b.s. to total dismissal of the importance of the VP position, entirely.

I still stick by what I was saying on Friday -- the choice of Sarah Palin for VP is excellent news for liberals, and the Obama campaign. It's splitting the GOP into 8 million different splinters, and uniting Democrats all the more.

Who knew she would provide us with such wonderful fodder to get us all in a good mood.

yamma

I think her former membership in the Alaskan Independence Party should hurry things along.
Their platform states the original vote for statehood was flawed.
Maybe they want to take the oil and run.


http://cliffschecter.firedoglake.com/2008/...pendence-party/

The founder of the AIP

"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."

Joe Vogler
carmenjonze
QUOTE (brotherdavid @ Sep 2 2008, 01:06 AM) *


Lol I'm still trying to figure out how Lynda Carter got away with it. I don't think they could have a show with a woman with a real body like that, today.

Thanks, Wonder Woman, for helping so many young queer girls come to terms with our sexuality, so early lol!
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