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5by5
Among the many "restoration of national infrastructure" challenges that Barack Obama, the Democrats in Congress, and the Dems in local communities will have is the need to make all publicly-owned municipal water systems safe and 100% accessible.

Here's a great article detailing where we are, and where we need to go:

http://www.alternet.org/water/95630/what_i...nk/?page=entire

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The fact is, 89.3 percent of the nation's community water systems met or exceeded federal standards in 2007 (down from 92 percent in 2006). It sounds good, but that still leaves more than 29 million people drinking water that missed the mark on either health or reporting standards.

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Does a retreat to the bottle make sense? Hardly.

First, bottled water isn't necessarily more healthful than tap. The Food and Drug Administration allows in bottled water basically the same levels of contaminants the EPA allows in tap water. Contaminants that go unregulated by the EPA -- such as perchlorate or MTBE, a gasoline additive - also go unregulated by the FDA. While utility customers can learn the results of testing from annual reports, bottlers aren't required to reveal the results of either their self-testing or their far less frequent independent inspections.

As an EPA employee told me, with bottled water "it's a crapshoot what you're getting." Another difference: bottled water is tested at the plant, not after it's been sitting in plastic for up to two years. Chemicals from bottles have been shown to leach into water over time.

This about says it all:

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Clean drinking water is an index of a functioning society: more than a billion people worldwide lack sufficient access to clean water, and more than 5 million a year die from waterborne diseases. The United States still has one of the best water systems in the developed world: it would be criminal to run it into the ground.

I want to go back to the days when I could be confident that drinking out of a damn garden hose was safe.
Seeker1
QUOTE (5by5 @ Sep 2 2008, 08:26 AM) *
Among the many "restoration of national infrastructure" challenges that Barack Obama, the Democrats in Congress, and the Dems in local communities will have is the need to make all publicly-owned municipal water systems safe and 100% accessible.


If you drink bottled water and you think you're not drinking municipal water, then the folks at Dasani were glad to swindle you, excuse me, take your money.

OK, they do filter it and put some minerals in, but - still coming from the city tap.





GCurry
Exactly right on municipal water. Must be potable. And it wouldn't hurt to distinguish between water used for ingestion and that used for irrigation, washing; there is a growing movement in these parts (PNW) towards harvesting rainwater. My in laws from CA visited this weekend. They were saying that the community they are from had to turn off irrigation water. Lake Shasta is no longer a lake - it's a river now. They are letting their plants die now.
5by5
QUOTE (Seeker1 @ Sep 2 2008, 05:46 AM) *
If you drink bottled water and you think you're not drinking municipal water, then the folks at Dasani were glad to swindle you, excuse me, take your money.

Exactly. biggrin.gif
paracelsus
ridiculous.

ever actually checked what's in your water?

the most dangerous things are the "by-products from sanitation."

perhaps it's asking too much, but please wake up.
Seeker1
QUOTE (paracelsus @ Sep 2 2008, 10:13 AM) *
ridiculous.

ever actually checked what's in your water?

the most dangerous things are the "by-products from sanitation."

perhaps it's asking too much, but please wake up.


Got link for that nonsense?

I guess bacteria, toxic pollution, and agricultural runoff aren't dangerous.

Please don't tell me it's the flouride I have to watch out for.




paracelsus
QUOTE (Seeker1 @ Sep 2 2008, 09:24 AM) *
Got link for that nonsense?

I guess bacteria, toxic pollution, and agricultural runoff aren't dangerous.

Please don't tell me it's the flouride I have to watch out for.



yea, lemme look around the house, i've got my latest report somewhere and will scan it in for you when i find it.

Stoon
Lewis Black on water:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNGWn-aWn5g
5by5
QUOTE (Stoon @ Sep 2 2008, 07:42 AM) *

Niiiiice..... laugh.gif

Black: "Aqua Fina? I think it means, 'The end of water as we know it.'"

Exactly. Precisely the problem.
who
If McCain is elected president, perhaps after he is through privatizing Social Security, his administration can go to work on privatizing municipal water supplies around the country. Water privatization has been such a resounding success in the southern hemisphere, I'm sure that once the management of domestic water supplies is handed over to corporate entities like Enron and Bechtel, prices will plummet and quality will soar.


Just consider what American know-how has done for the water supplies in Iraq!

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