I think it's a safe bet, and the following bet is that McCain is retired also.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/p...s_n_123136.html

And wouldn't that be a hoot! I wonder who McShame will pick after she leaves? ( or after he kicks her out!)

I really don't see her going to their convention. The Republican party is in disaray over this and McCain is responsible, what a putz.

Either way he's screwed. If she leaves then he can't pick correctly, if he fires her then he's a huge flip-flopper and didn't vet properly.

I love it, a lose lose situation

Last week, I said she's toast by Wednesday - I even offered to send a box of Kleenex.

What happens when the repugs don't have a Vice President for the convention? I was going to abbreviate it to just Vice but, they have those.

I bet Ron Paul said NO - that's why he's getting the cold shoulder.

They can nominate one at the convention. They might do it anyway, overriding McCain's decision. It's not really up to him. It's up to the party.

Advocates of Romney, Pawlenty, Lieberman and Huckabee are no doubt circling like vultures. RudyTootieFreshNFruity is just circling, being a vulture, after all.

They won't do it anyway, because the majority of the Republicans at the convention are the ultra-conservatives. Remember, they love her.

They won't override his decision. It would send too bad a message.

She won't withdraw on her own. I don't think she has the smarts to see the handwriting on the wall. She will probably be forced out.

D'accord.

Well, Operation Chaos is in full swing! The videos are hideous! Will there be a commotion on the floor of the repug convention, this will be exactly to a "T" what Rush Limpdick predicted. Unfortunately he was wrong about the party affiliation.

Gosh, let's hope not!

I think she's a great pick!

But then again; I want Obama to win. ;-)

I'm sure she is far removed from most of this negative stuff and has the rose colored blinders on. She's in the middle of the Republican fan club right now, and also the media spotlight and she must be lovin' it. This is her 15 min. What politician does not like the spotlight?

Thom Hartman just said he thinks she will withdraw saying she needs to stay home with her children, etc. And Mittens will replace her.

I agree. I think she will be forced to withdraw, citing, anything. And whoever replaces her will end up looking like a genius compared to her. I hope she stays though.

Aw, I hope she drags it out. The more trash time, the better.

I was just getting ready to say, the McCain Smoke Screen for Mittens may be more sophisticated than I thought...

If the Republicans are actually having a convention (hard to tell, since even C-SPAN isn't covering it), they still have a few more days to nominate someone else.

I'll say it again, I don't think she will be introduced to the convention.

Finished. And not her fault entirely.

If she stays in WE WIN --- If She Goes WE WIN !!!

CATCH 22 REPIGGYS !!! YOUR FUCKED !!!

No matter what, it's a loser for McCain. He's f-ed up his first major decision.

Nothing wrong in being ambitious, just being too ambitious.

Oh, she'll be introduced to the convention. Lorna's taut gushing over her Tuesday night suggests a plow-through, and it is a convention comprised of the ultra-right (though a floor fight still isn't wholly inconceivable). Whether she'll still be around by the debate is another matter.

ah ha ha

I love the Scotts -- and gambling.

That's what I'm thinking, they're not going to screw up their big show but wait till the poll numbers start to slip.

Somehow, I cannot see the McCain campaign recovering from Palin's membership in separatist organizations. Actively calling for the dissolution of the United States is not something that usually plays well with the electorate. Not that anyone is phrasing it exactly like that, but they should.

Oh I hope she makes it to the debates. That will be so cringingly fun to watch! I can't wait until she's asked some question about Iraq or Al Qaeda or Ahmadinejad, and reverts to some beauty contest "world peace" answer.

Bill Press said on his show this morning that he thinks McPalin will maybe read a prepared speech when she emerges from days in an undisclosed location when even the Anchorage Daily News could not contact her. Then withdraw in a week or so after the gas and phoniness from the Puke Convention has fully dissapated.

facts is facts

Repubs are jealous dogs and short tempered; they will soon be unable to contain themselves.

I can't wait to see the jealousy take hold.

They will be cutting each others throats left and right.

Sad, but true.

Wishing she would, but betting she won't.

I can't imagine the revelation about her that would be worth what McCain would suffer if his first pick fell apart, no matter how hard they worked to make it appear to have been her decision to go. Hell, even if it really WERE her decision.

McCain's campaign simply couldn't stand the blow. No matter WHAT comes out, they're going to maintain they knew it ll along, that it doesn't matter, or that it's actually a GOOD thing when looked at from the right perspective (or the Right perspective, as the case may be).

It is interesting to note that the GOP is actually taken with Palin.

- She has an 80% approval rating in her state.

- She has a balanced budget and provides extra income for state residents.

- She has experience at the executive level as a Govenor.

- She has been to Iraq even more times than Obama.

I believe she is a very good strategic choice for Vice President and that McCain has performed a coup.

Of course all this is merely my opinion...

I think Palin is the catalyst McCain needed in order to be a real threat to Obama's "easy victory".

November will be extremely interesting!

Voters won't care about any of that when they see that McCain and Palin are bat-sh!* crazy! It does come down to personality and who you trust.

Can you provide link to 80% current rating? I heard that figure was dated, and it's likely dropped.

What does executive experience mean to you? As most talk, it means managing a significant P&L and Balance Sheet, managing an organization, with competition, strategic and operational issues. Obama had certainly managed an effective organization during his campaign - better than anything Republicans or anyone else could muster. His organization runs smoothly. Unlike the state of Alaska, his campaign actually had competition, so there was a strategic element that Palin is missing completely, and which is vital to POTUS and therefore also VPOTUS.

The only sense that she is a good choice for McCain is what Obama said: "Republicans can't govern, but they can campaign." Palin is a good person to use to take the spotlight off McCain's and Republican's shortcomings, and to draw attention from the DNC success. She is not about governing. She is part of a composite figurehead, a mirage, that Republicans like to put in from of American consumer-voters, whom they then tickle to "buy" like consumers buying antiperspirant. That isn't democracy, voting notwithstanding. If you want democracy, you must tell citizens the truth, so that by their collective wisdom and representation, they can drive their government. That just isn't the Republican way.

You know there is a new rule here that we supply links with our posts.

President Palin.

Links please....

ps ...... I thought Palin had only been to the very safe country of Kuwait and not Iraq...

http://northshorejournal.org/palin-has-bee...r-of-operations

Well there is still a chance I could be right but I doubt it will happen today.

I still don't think she will last.

I agree with GCurry. Her approval ratings that you have touted are dated.

Your statement that she has been to Iraq more times than Obama is erroneous. She has never been to Iraq, from what I have read.

She got her first passport in 2007. She visited US military installations in Germany and Kuwait. No foreign leaders, just lunching with the troops. Admirable, but not foreign policy experience.

It would be best if you guys would try to stick to the truth, and not try to fluff up her resume.

I can dream can't I?


I have a dream today... sorry started channeling.

[font="Franklin Gothic Medium"][/font][size="4"][/size][color="#0000FF"][/color]If they do introduce her tonight and she gives her speech, I wonder if we will get any information regarding her history. We know Obama's history and struggles. We, also, know Biden and the tragedies in his past. We all know McCain's military history but really nothing before that. I just wonder what kind of history she had besides she played basketball and they called her Sarah Barracuda.

Who wants to bet tonight on her introduction they'll play Heart's "Barracuda." They would be that corney.

I bet they will show her in beauty pageants with her crazy smile, then in college drinking and partying. And then shooting moose from an airplane, and eating a moose burger. Then pumping out the childrens and running a car wash. Maybe cutting ribbons with giant scissors to 7-11 openings in Wasilla. Plotting revenge on her brother-in-law. I think that's about it.

Ah, the things you do not mention! BOY do you need a broader array of sources.

20 months in office and she has a high rating. Astonishing inasmuch as skyrocketing oil prices have been a boon for Alaska over the last 20 months, upon which the vast majority of the state's revenues are based.

As the state does not have an income tax, those haven't actually gone up or down. However, for decades residents HAVE received a "resources distribution" payment, which is essentially each resident's share of revenues for the sale/exploitation of state natural resouces. Again, thanks to oil prices, those checks have gone up, up, up!

Now, if you'd like to maintain that Palin is responsible for escalating oil prices, and so for the checks state residents are VERY happy to receive, PLEASE, urge the McCain campaign to start boasting about this!

"PALIN BROUGHT OIL PRICES TO RECORD HIGHS!"

Come on, brag about it! I dare you.


Yes, and in that short time she has fired one State Police commissioner - one she claimed to like and support - because he wouldn't fire her ex brother-in-law. She also lied about her role in that process, only coming clean when State Police revealed they had recordings.

She THEN tried to explain her firing of the commissioner, again - the guy she said she otherwise liked and respected - because the department was corrupt and involved with drug dealing. Attaway to back up your cops when things get sticky, Sarah! (Especially ironic in that the city where she served for years on the council and as Mayor is one of the two Meth capitols of the entire state!)

Then, she made the Executive Decision to hire a NEW commissioner, overlooking the fact that he was the subject of sexual harassment charges elsewhere. In fact, because of those charges he never ended up serving a day in office, though Palin did "negotiate" a severance package giving the man who never worked a day for the state $10,000.

And you think such a record would enhance Obama? I disagree.


Actually, not true. Moreover, the single trip she made was to visit only with the Nat. Guard troops from Alaska deployed in Kuwait. Oh, and let's not forget that she tried to expand the import and scope of the trip by reporting she visited Germany and Ireland, too. It was only later learned that her "visit" to Ireland was actually a refueling stopover.

You want Obama to demonstrate THAT kind of character? No, thank you!


Alas, you seem not to have heard about McCain's campaign slogan. He does NOTHING for his campaign. It's always "Country First!" You owe the man an apology for this ugly slur implying his choice had ANYTHING to do with "strategy."


No doubt about that, because it's certainly not premised on facts!



I'm thinking you may not end up enjoying it much.

Pardon me but I do not live in the USA. It does not effect me as to WHO may win the election this coming November - but it is interesting to study the process of USA Politics! Exciting.

Both sides exaggerating and making every effort to make their side good and the other side bad.

I notice that you are especially cought up in this process emotionally. Your wording is so aggressive in your response to an outsider making a comment on your election.

Thank you for your response anyway; your enthusiasm is great!

The membership has asked you in this thread to provide a link to this prior post.

http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/index...st&p=134089

It is UNACCEPTABLE to ignore fellow board members request for sources. You are being asked to provide this link now.

Dear Liblaw;

I was very careful to note that this is my opinion - as I was instructed.

Please note that on the other subject (where you compared the Denver Police to the infamous gestapo), I pointed out all the many times you have made statements without doing so - in fact, I was surprized that these rules were NOT pointed out to YOU..

thank you!

She unseated the party incumbent. Not exactly an easy task as far as not having competition and running campaigns are concerned.

Welcome to USA politics.

Due to so many requests, I felt obligated to provide this:

THE LINK to GOVENOR PALIN's APPROVAL RATING

I also paste it:
McCain Campaign Touts Palin's Popularity In Alaska
03 Sep 2008 03:03 pm

In a memo, which you can read, in full, after the jump.
To: McCain Strategy Team

From: Linda DiVall and Randall Gutermuth

Re: Key Findings from Alaska Statewide

Date: September 3, 2008



American Viewpoint conducted 400 interviews with registered voters in Alaska on the evening of September 2, 2008 on behalf of McCain for President. The margin of error for the entire sample is +/- 4.9% at the 85% confidence level. Key findings are summarized below.



Alaskans hold Governor Palin in very high regard. They have rallied behind her and because they know her so well and have seen her perform her job so aptly over the past two years they believe that she, like every other working parent in America, can absolutely handle the demands of her family as well as the demands of running for Vice-President.



The special investigation appears to be politically inspired but voters support a full investigation. The McCain-Palin ticket performs well in Alaska and leads by a 24-point margin.



Governor Sarah Palin remains extremely well regarded in Alaska.



· Her job approval rating is astoundingly high with an 86% overall approval rating and 63% strongly approving of her job performance. Independents approve by a margin of 86% - 10% and there is absolutely no gender gap. 97% of Republicans approve of the job she is doing as do 75% of Democrats. She receives high job approval ratings across all regions of Alaska.



The Obama strategy of targeting and attempting to win Alaska is a fantasy. The McCain-Palin ticket holds a commanding ballot advantage over Obama-Biden, winning 57% - 33%.



· Independent voters cast their ballots for McCain-Palin, 50%-37%. Ticket-splitters vote for McCain-Palin, 48%-33%. Men vote for McCain-Palin 58%-30% with women voting for the GOP ticket 55%-35%.



· McCain-Palin draws 25% of Democrats and lead with those placing their emphasis on energy/gas issues, 74%-18%.



Alaskans view her as being just as qualified in terms of her background and experience as Barack Obama.



· 59% of Alaska voters say she is AS or MORE qualified as Barack Obama. 30% state she is more qualified than Obama, 31% that she is less qualified and 29% that she is just as qualified as the Democratic nominee.



· There is no gender gap on this result.



· This lead extends to Independents. Among Independents, 55% say she is AS or MORE qualified as Obama (20% of say she is more qualified, 35% that she is less qualified and 35% that she is just as qualified as Obama).



Alaskans have rallied behind Governor Palin and are proud of her choice as the Vice-Presidential nominee.



· By an overall margin of 56% - 15%, respondents report being more likely to vote for McCain as a result of Sarah Palin's selection to be his running mate. Again, there is no gender gap on this measurement, Independents report being more likely to vote for McCain with Palin as his running mate by a margin of 55% - 16%.



· Intensity is quite strong with 44% much more likely to vote for McCain and 11% less likely.



The key advantage Palin brings to the GOP team is an emphasis on the reform dynamic of bringing new ideas and thinking to Washington (+59% net agreement).



· This is followed by +53% net agreement that the selection makes Alaskans feel proud, increases to +89% net agreement with very conservative voters; +48% net agreement that the selection makes them excited about the pick, increases to +87% net agreement with very conservative voters; and net +36% that she has the qualifications to be Vice-President, +81% net agreement with very conservative voters.