..to paraphrase.... Since 2001 the republican party has been pushing Herman Goering's Nazi party on us.

Way to go Jesse.

BTW, he's voting for Ron Paul.

Link?

I think the live tv makes it hard to come by links... which also makes it hard to verify.

For those paying attention, they started doing this before 2001, and in fact before the 1970s, too.

The American Silver Shirts (Silver Legion), 1934
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Legion

Would I lie?

True.

Maybe tomorrow.

I'll back you up. I was watching it as well. Although, I thought he said that he wasn't sure who he was voting for, because he was not sure that Ron Paul would even be on the ballot. He was sure that it would not be a Democrat or Repuglican, though.

Know-nothings

Puritans

Holy crap...TX toyour mentioniingthe silver shirts, ijt leared about the National Association of Manufacturers ( NAM )

Besides funding pro-fascists groups like the Silver Shirts, corporate America sponsored several other groups that maintained a speck of respectability. One such organization that figured prominently in spreading the propaganda was the National Association of Manufacturers (NAM). The first president of NAM was Samuel Bush, father of Prescott and grandfather of George H. W. Bush [great grandfather of George W. Bush]. Such organizations as NAM would serve as bridge groups between the rich corporate owners and the public.

NAM along with the National Industrial Information Committee picked up the banner of du Pont's free enterprise dogma. It was Fulton Lewis Jr. a former employee of NAM, who became the mouthpiece for NAM. Using his radio program on the Mutual Network, Lewis spread the NAM propaganda to roughly three million people daily. Lewis denied the truth put forth by the La Follette and the Truman committees and instead aired NAM's propaganda under the guise of "Your Defense Reporter." At their 1942 convention, NAM went on record of supporting du Pont's Free Enterprise fully. The convention adopted a plank of full support for free enterprise, even if it hindered the war effort. In contrast, the 1942 CIO convention went on record for winning the war first, ahead of any union issues. In other words labor was willing to make the sacrifices needed to win the war, while big business wasn't, and put profits ahead of the war effort.

NAM was only one group of many that was used to propagandize America. Another was the Chamber of Commerce. Both the Chamber of Commerce and the American Legion served as bridge groups breaching the gap between the workers and the American elite during the 1920s . NAM served a similar role in the 1930s and into the 1950s. The top officials of the John Birch Society in the 1950s were all former officials of NAM. The Birch Society also acted as a bridge group.

History repeating itself...LaFollet's progressive movement was followed by war profoteering.

Clinton's movement ws followed by wr profiteering.

How did we forget what our founding fathers knew and tried to protect our democracy from...oh, right the Missouri Compromise gave the corporatist interest legitimacy and then brainwashed us into believing it was what our funding fathers wanted.

Odd, in that, 2-3 months ago when Jesse was doing his book tour I saw him on two talk shows saying he really just lives in Mexico now so that he can surf all the time. He's very good at ridiculing everything and everyone, but has had a lot of trouble following through when invited to put up or shut up.

Jesse Ventura is a nut who, after initially being greeted as a "straight talking savior", his term in office became an embarrassment to the state. He quickly found he didn't know nearly as much as he thought he did. He AT LEAST had the brains to leave the state tail between his legs without attempting a reelection race.

I don't know if Jesse had the same backing and financial support from white supremacists that Ron Paul has, but it does seem the association hasn't discouraged Ventura. Presumably Ventura also shares Paul's objections to government interference such as the minimum wage and civil rights?

All unfortunate in light of the fact that Ventura claims contempt for the same administration I find so repugnant. He's just somebody I wouldn't want on my side.

Jesse's appeal was his "plain talking populism." And for the most part, I'm suspicious of anyone who calls themself a populist...so often it means racism, "states rights bs," and has little to do with ordinary people's rights. The last great "plain talker" was Will Rogers, IMHO...we may never see another authentic American like Will.

The term, "New World Order," was first used many years ago by Adolf Hitler, who said, "National Socialism will use its own revolution for the establishment of a new world order." The Associated Press reported that on July 26, 1968, New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller said in a speech to the International Platform Association at the Sheraton Park Hotel in New York, that "as President he would work toward international creation of a new world order."

The next prominent American politician to use the term was George H.W. Bush in his 1989 inauguration speech.

Further, the [/i]Enabling Act[/i] of 1933 bears striking resemblance to The USA Patriot Act and The Homeland Security Act of 2002.

This is no coincidence.

And the "Meeting at Wannsee" bears a striking resemblence to the "Meeting of Principals" where Bushco. decided on the Torture Policy.

Thank you Bushwa as you have summed up my feelings for Vntura and his 'professional' opinion.....

And for those who must know, here is the link to his dribble on King...

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/lkl.html

hurr Ron Paul hurr hurr

Look, my take on this is one more vote for Ron Paul is one less vote for McCain, and that's nothing but good.

He can only be a write-in option on the ballot.

If you really want to dilute the McCain vote, tell your diehard R-or-death friends to vote Bob Barr, who will be on the ballot in just about every state.

I'll be happy with either.

Shatter their vote into a thousand pieces, I say.

There's progressive populism, and there's right populism.

Progressive populism brought us the income tax, public utilities, and direct election of Senators, among other things.

Right populism has brought us anti immigrant legislation (the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, etc.), anti intellectualism, and america-first movements, among other things.

Obviously, you can see which I prefer.

Some right-wingers blame all the problems of our society on "intellectual elites" in our university who believe in dreaded things like race-mixing, secularism, and gay marriage... that kind of "populism" mostly makes me sick.

Happy is the wrong word for me. I'd mourn the election of either.

It's only because I know Barr can't possibly get more than 50% of the vote, and that his more likely 1-9% of the vote will dilute McCain's, that I reiterate my suggestion.

As a write-in, Paul will get around 0.5%. Write-ins rarely make it to the 1% threshold.

I didn't see the entire show, but what caught my attention was at the very end of the program when the issue of debt was raised, Ventura was unwilling to accept that the country went from the largest surplus to the largest deficit under the Bush administration.

Here's the video of Jesse at the Ron Paul rally.

Well, whether Jesse "accepts" it or not...

I looked high and low for an argument (aside from the fact that some potential Obama supporters have been lured in by this fruitcake's "end the war" position) and couldn't find any.

And so I join in your call for ALL conservative Republicans to rally 'round and support Ron Paul, the ONLY candidate committed to getting all those damned foreigners out of this country, and dedicated to killing all those laws that protect minorities and other sickos in our society. VOTE RON PAUL!

Point taken and necessary conversion made!

I join in your call for ALL conservative Republicans to rally 'round and support Bob Barr, the ONLY candidate committed to getting all those damned foreigners out of this country, and dedicated to killing all those laws that protect minorities and other sickos in our society. VOTE BOB BARR!

Hey b, frankly I'd like them all to vote for Obama, and hell if not, then McKinney or Nader. I'm already doing stuff with the local Dems down here and I'll try and get every Republican I know or meet into "rehab" between now and November.

However, if you're dealing with a person who absolutely, positively will not vote for a Left candidate, if you absolutely positively cannot sway them to vote that way, then the next best thing is to get them to dilute the McCain vote.

Believe me, as I think I've been indicating, it's not that I'd rather have Barr than McCain. Either choice fills me with revulsion.