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NEM
PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending ... and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."

THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."

PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform _ not even in the state senate."

THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.

PALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."

THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded. Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.

He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.

MCCAIN: "She's been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply ... She's responsible for 20 percent of the nation's energy supply. I'm entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson.

THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state _ by population.

MCCAIN: "She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard. ... She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.

THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.


FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."

THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.

FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: "We need change, all right _ change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington _ throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin."

THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.
Dan-From-LA
NEM,

Where are the links to all this? Check the board rules, we require links/sources (Rule 22).
5by5
He did provide links when he quoted McCain's satement as being said on ABC, and the counter argument from the Tax Policy center, etc.

The notion of linking can't get so crazy as to be that the poster does all the work for the reader. Sometimes people are just going to say, "I got it here, go the fuck and look it up." And I'm going to back them when they do say that.

Moreover, when it comes to quotes like this, it is RIDICULOUSLY easy for you to just go out and do a search on your own. So please do so. Especially since many of the quotes above have been relentlessly repeated in multiple outlets.

That said, this one in particular really chaps my ass:

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MCCAIN: "She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard. ... She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.

THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.

So Republicans need to stop with this shit and making her sound like she's a NATO General simply because she allowed guard units to be deployed as required by law. Gimme a break. No wonder Susan Eisenhower left the GOP. How much of an insult is that kind of crap to her father, Ike?
Randys
QUOTE (5by5 @ Sep 4 2008, 06:10 AM) *
He did provide links

where are the links?

i dont see any, and this isnt a debate, from now on you must provide links to whatever you are posting something from another source...
5by5
QUOTE (Randys @ Sep 4 2008, 06:58 AM) *
where are the links?

i dont see any, and this isnt a debate, from now on you must provide links to whatever you are posting something from another source...

Come on. It's sourced within the article itself by the original reporter, but for humor's sake, here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/a...h_n_123771.html
NEM
QUOTE (5by5 @ Sep 4 2008, 07:14 AM) *
Come on. It's sourced within the article itself by the original reporter, but for humor's sake, here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/a...h_n_123771.html


Thank you, I appreciate it.

I understand why links need to be provided, and for the most part, I usually do furnish them, but on occasion I forget.

What bothered me, however, was the tone in which I was accosted regarding the missing link. And, I will leave it at that.
NamelessGenXer
QUOTE (NEM @ Sep 4 2008, 10:26 AM) *
Thank you, I appreciate it.


This is Sourced enough for me (just ask the Google Tubes)


Posted under NEW! http://genxforobama.com/

Direct Link (for posterity): http://genxforobama.com/mccain-palin-lies.html

Nice job, NEM.

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