Scroll down to bottom of the article for the video. Lowered my blood pressure.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/d...c_n_123858.html

sr

So far today not one of the Corporate media CNN, MSNBC or Fox have even mentioned Biden had a response to Palin's speech, let alone a video response.

Thank you for posting the video.

Awesome!

Thanks.

Just saw Biden's reponse to Palin on MSNBC. He says he has a formative opponent and he's going to have to hone his debate skills, and she's going to be tough.

She has a lot of contradictions in her record and she is owned by the same machine the faux religious and oil pigs - Bush/Cheney - that's all Joe has to go after. She is not a change agent OR a maverick. She's owned, and is just another Bush/McCain poodle.

That was very well done. You can tell with some of the stops and starts he's having to make the attempt not to really rip into their nonsense, but he is pulling it off.

Joe Biden is a wise politician. He will pick her bones, trust me on this one. Go Joe!

on edit; Or bone this pick...

Matt Lauer's another msm totally biased ASSHOLE but thanks for the link,Sylva!!

Awesome!

NP all! Figured we needed it this morning.

After listening to Biden...donated to a few dollars to Obama...and am now grooving to some Melissa Etheridge!

The world feels a little better now.

sr

Politically very smart. He doesn't bite on their bait to mock someone who's so EASILY mockable and risk looking like a bully (even though she actually is one), and instead, he builds up her pedestal so he can unceremoniously knock it right out from under her arrogant ass during the debate.

And he hits back calmly and in measured, clear, speech points out the fact that THESE REPUBLICANS HAVE NO PLAN to make this country a better place to live in or a safer world.

Every time they pull the personality bullshit, we should simply go, "I could give a rat's ass about your personal story beyond it's shear obvious hypocrisy, SHOW ME YOUR POLICY POSITIONS.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO in office....?

Give the United States more of a deficit like you did in that podunk little town you claimed to manage, yet in which you had to hire an assistant to do the vast majority of work for you, because you had no flipping idea what the hell you were doing and you were screwing up so badly, the demand for you to be recalled began almost the instant you took office?

I listened to Joe Biden's meandering response. It didn't lower my blood pressure. It was total crap. He is going to have to defend our nominee and himself in clear, masculine language or that pretty little hockey mom is going to kick their butt. Biden was put on the ticket b/c regular joe's would supposedly identify with him. Regular joe's don't respect anyone who walks away from a fight after they've been challenged.

One other thing, Randi commented yesterday that Sarah Palin was a light weight that was chosen b/c the big bad good old boys can control her; you know, a female version of George Bush. Well she and we and they had better think again. They opened the door and she just took over the Republican party. And this means that the Christian conservatives who have been a useful tool and the brunt of a lot of jokes among Republican leadership over the last 30 years have taken over that party. Democrats had better learn to communicate more effectively to average joes and fight down in the place where these folks live or we will be spending another 12 years complaining about how we lost, but we really won.

I hate to say it, but I think Hillary understands this. I "think" Obama does, but mistakenly tries to operate above it. And, I think Biden has been in the Senate too long.

I respectfully disagree. I grew up and continue to live in a red state full of regular joes. I was raised by a regular joe. My dad's got a high school education and retired from factory work. He's a life long member of the NRA.

Regular Joe's might not respect anyone who walks away from a fight from another Regular Joe..but they DON'T beat up on a Lady. Biden played it right. Be respectful. Hit her back on the facts but treat her like a lady.

Let her hang herself. Because sexist or not...a regular joe (IMHO) is only going to put up with her shrill and sarcastic tone for so long..especially when she's offered nothing but respect and courtesy. Pretty soon regular joes will TUNE HER OUT!

But...hey...that's just my opinion and you know what they say about those!

sr

I thought Biden did a good job except for when he side stepped answering Lauer's question about Obama not having executive experience. He needed to say directly that if Obama is unqualified to be President because he lacks executive experience than so does McCain. He has never served as a Mayor, Governor or run a business either.

I don't know why being a Senator has become such a put down. As Thom Hartman just said Senators run a large staff and run campaigns. They do have executive experience.

The whiny Republicans are already complaining like little babies about the media supposedly beating up on her, and your stunning political advice is that Biden should do so too? No, this was WAY smarter. He hit her hard on the FACTS, that they have no plan.

There are plenty of ways to take this lightweight down. By showing he's not threatened by her, he reveals just how small her bully tactics really are.

He diminished her dumbass without raising his voice.

Winning isn't about cutting your opponent's line, it's about extending yours.

She won't be able to even swing at him successfully, because they've already zipped right past the Republicans. They've already lost.

By MILES.

Besides, Hillary can beat the shit out of this unaccomplished tart without the charges of sexism sticking.

And you forget something REALLY critical. The Obama groundgame. THAT is where elections are won or lost, and Obama's KICKS ASS.

Starbuck...I was uncomfortable with that too...then I thought..."he's not tipping his hand before the debate."

I think he's playing his cards close because he's got that one night to really out maneuver her and he doesn't want to give Rove any more to work with than he has...that's was my impression anyway.

sr

Biden doesn't need to beat up on Sarah Palin at all. You misunderstood my post. I guess it wasn't very clear. Sarah Palin talked about, for examples, Barack's legislative record and his work has a community organizer. Further, she challenged he and his wife's patriotism. Joe Biden has to learn to quickly defend Barack's record point by point (or at least hit a few big points), highlight the contradictions b/t her rhetoric and record, then close with the big picture stuff. We cannot make the mistake of the assuming the American people know the truth or that they will figure this out on their own. That is a replay of the Kerry campaign. Moreover, we cannot fall for this "she's a lady; we better watch what we say" bit. I agree he should not attack her personally. But Baracks record and her record are fair game.

Again, I disagree. Listening to Biden again I noted his response on these points:

1) He talked how she didn't mention the middle class, health care, college help...
2) He mentioned he speech was attack- Karl Rove
3) He talked about Barak his career in State senate bringing health care to Illinois, wrote the Ethics reform bill in the US senate
4)He talked about how she never mentioned Afghanistan or Pakistan
5) He talked about how she never mentioned how they were going to create new jobs
6) He Pointed out she didn't talk about their plans for the next 4 years to get out of the mess from the last 8 years
7) He talked about what she said about Obama's tax cuts "were simply not true" and how Palin's sister would do better under Obama's taxcuts unless she made over 250,000 a year (Obama's taxplan will cut taxes for 95% of Americans)

What did you think he was missing?

Responding point-by-point is a good formula for losing against Republican campaigners. Republicans are experts at framing a dialog with talking points which are divisive (i.e., use fear and hate to elicit an emotional reponse). They play to the worst in people, and aren't interested in citizens' thoughts, just whether they can get the reptilian brain to follow the mob.

If you respond point-by-point to that frame, you stay IN THE FRAME, and that divisive perspective is reinforced in the listener. You fall into their trap, responding point by point. You play their divisive game.

Instead it is better to see if you can get citizens to get OUT OF THEIR REPTILIAN BRAIN, and get into their cortex. You do that by reframing, asking people to look at it from a different angle. Nothing wrong with responding point by point later, but citizens' must be lifted back into their rational mind, after listening to Republicans for even a few minutes.

So Biden did just the right thing. Reframed it. Reminded citizens that McCain/Palin refused to acknowledge the failed policies of GWB and had no plan for the future which improves the plight of the middle class. Simple message, received. And it ends the Palin's childish taunting. Eventually citizens will decide. If 70% of us would rather live in our reptilian brains, then this was never meant to be a democracy. If it's 30% and even they can be rehabilitated, then McCain/Palin will be swept away as the last gasp of a party of sociopaths.