I'm not even talking about her pregnant daughter and Family business. There is so much shit out there about her unethical abuse of power, speech full of lies, earmarks, crazy church, etc....Now McCain is blacking her out from the media. Will the Media Vet her? Right now all they are doing is praising her.

They're milking the conventions ... That ends tonight.

Get READY !!!

LMAO!!!! TRain Wreck

Mrs Palin’s independence, her husband likes to get his own way. Earlier this year, when Mrs Palin was heavily pregnant with their fifth child she found herself leaking amniotic fluid during a business trip in Texas, almost a day’s travelling away from home. Instead of going to a hospital, she took an epic multi-leg flight back to Anchorage, followed by a drive back to her home town, where she gave birth a month early. Todd Palin later explained the decision: “You can’t have a fish picker from Texas.”

The following deserves a big YIKES !!!!!!!!!!![/b]


[b]He’s as much of a jock as he is a redneck. The Palins’ first child was named Track because he was born during the track and field season (he is now in the US Army and will be deployed to Iraq on September 11). If Track had been born during the basketball season, he would have been named Hoop. Another of the Palin brood, Piper Indy, is named in honour of a snowmobile.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle4687705.ece

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The Media is only as attentive as the sheeple who pay attention to it.

From a definition from Dictionary.com

vetting
Definition
Formal and thorough examination (usually by an expert) prior to grant of approval or clearance.

It is the Media's place to report. Thaey are in NO position to formally vet anyone for a political position because, quite frankly, they cannot formally grant approval or clearance.

It's above their pay grade.

They are free to report the facts as they know them and to even speculate, but they cannot vet anyone.

Vetting --According to Iveatch, no reporter should look for the facts before reporting on a story, just make a decision and report. Well, that's not journalism as I understand it. Investigative reporting is all about vetting. Nice try Veatch, but no cigar today. Oh, and the media is not a formal vetting source, it's the media.

You know they are. I'm betting they are out in force, leaving no stone unturned. They wouldn't be doing their job if they weren't.

I don't know much about this AIP but, since they want to leave the US, how will they determine Alaskan citizenship. If you have to have been born there, then maybe that is the real reason she would do something so reckless. And if that's true what does it say about her loyalties?

They found a woman that hates the Constitution as much as they do. She can lie with the best of them with a straight face. While this administration is being investigated for wrongful conduct, she is of the same cloth.

RL- I believe we are THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, but she doesn't wan't to be a part of the United States. So let's elect a successionist. Wow, what a shocker, the angry branch of the Repig. party going against Lincoln all over again.

I don't understand your point, here, Iveatch. Of course they can.

Do you seriously think anyone here is saying the media is responsible for the official vetting?

Are you being purposefully narrow in your approach to the context?

"vetting" for the public is completely different from official vetting for a specific position.

It's our right to know as much as possible about our public officials. While we can't probably ever have access to the formal, official vetting that the political parities or organizations do, we have every right to expect that media will do that on our behalf.

When Bush shoves out a supreme court justice nominee, for example, the administration is going to vet that candidate following their own formal process.

But when that person's name because public, the media doesn't go the the administration and say, "Okay, gimmee everything you got."

They may ask for some bio info, but do you think the admin will provide anything in depth?

I expect the media to go out, on my behalf, and "vet" this person publicly for me, so I have as much info as I need to form an opinion.

So, yeah, I not only hope the media "vets" this national newcomer, I totally expect it.

And I expect it to be dang thorough, too!

That is not what I'm attempting to communicate. Good reporters check and double check their sources for accuracy. But confirming a fact (or facts) is not vetting. Politically vetting someone is done by someone or group that has the authority to approve or deny. This is not the function of the media (although some in the Media that disagree). I don't think that I'm just offering a simple and narrow definition here.

Simply put, the press can't "pick 'em", they can only accurately "report about them". Verification of reported information is a part of that job.

The final "vetting" is (of course) up to the voters.

Reporters are also Vetters, they also vote, so they also have the right to vet people running for office, BUT, they have a voice. That's what you object to, the truth getting out there by reporters VETTING the candidate. Wrong again.

I have to agree with you here, it's not the Media's job to vet someone. It's McCain's responsibility before he approved her as his VP candidate.

Since he seems to not have, the media has every right to expose her for everything she is, good and bad. Including the fact that she threw her daughter under the bus to end speculation as to the parentage of her youngest child. All she needed was a birth certificate, maybe a DNA test to prove she was the mother and her husband the father.

I do want to talk about that because there may be many young girls (which are no fucking politician daughters)which like to think of alternatives. Her daughter was just an ignorant horny young reckneck girl who decided to keep breeding ignorance just like her mother (perhaps forced) Stop fucking thinking we are attacking a victim, we are trying to kill the issue. Do not be nice and passionate, Barack was just playing a game we have to play, but here (RRMB) we are NOT

I hope that the boy who got her preggers is a Pro-Choice Obama supporter.

Very bad form with the name calling.

Think about it ..................

No, it's just arguing over semantics.

If it's a pet peeve with you that people only use words in their denotative context, that's one thing.

But in this and many other informal communications, we can most certainly say we want the media to "vet" for us and all of us completely understand and agree to the use and that it doesn't mean we have any expectation that they will be giving any formal or official thumbs up or thumbs down.

In this context, we are simply saying that we want them to bring all available information to the forefront, on our behalf.

We want them to to the legwork for us.

I can't argue with that. Do the legwork ......... report accurately.

What I don't want to see (from my own view) is the press acting like a Fourth Estate in an explicit capacity of advocacy while posing as mere "reporters".

NO, you are just too busy reacting on my rage, and totally missing the point. Read again, then comment

The Fourth Estate is what they have been acting like for the last 8 years, see, that's the truth. Iveatch-- I like you for civil discourse, but c'mon, if a rising tide raises all ships, didn't the Dems raise it higher than anyone? Friedman was wrong, get over it.

I guess I don't understand what you're trying to say. The PRESS IS the "fourth estate." It's not a formal position but it IS part of the reason a free press is so important to the protection of the Constitution. Printing the facts about issues and people is always a "vetting" process. "Vet" is much broader than you're inferring.

It seems the major media is taking no part of vetting Sarah Palin. However on NBC Nightly News today they did mention that the corporate jet she claimed to have sold for profit on eBay was actually sold at a loss to a campaign contributor. That's about I've seen on the nightly news anyway.



So maybe it is up to the Democrats to create some 30 second ads with some of her extreme quotes such as these:

“So Sambo beat the bitch!” - a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination

People who know her say she refers regularly to Alaska’s Aboriginal people as “Arctic Arabs”
or “f**king Eskimo’s,”

"I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that,"

Speech at Assembly of God church., June 2008

Labeled the U.S. mission in Iraq a "task that is from God"

Speech at Assembly of God church., June 2008


The end of the ad could say "Is this who we want to be a heart beat from the Presidency?"

Darn... that's what I was going to say. The press (REAL JOURNALIST) are parallel to a 4th branch of the government. The government is of/for/by the people, but the people can't make informed decisions if they're not getting all the objective facts from investigative journalism. It's the problem we have today. Palin is on media-blackout-mode and will not do any interviews. Why? To control the perception of her. The easiest way to control a people is by controlling what they know... and the media is majority-owned by Repubs and corporatists. In some areas the DNC was only aired on cable networks while the RNC was unavoidably on every station. On the same note, coverage of the DNC was balanced with Repub commentators while coverage of the RNC had no Dem representatives. There is no liberal media! (when you take into consideration the whole market)

http://mediamatters.org/items/200809050001?f=h_top

http://mediamatters.org/items/200809060004?f=h_latest

QUOTE (pdxtpe @ Sep 6 2008, 11:07 PM)

It seems the major media is taking no part of vetting Sarah Palin. However on NBC Nightly News today they did mention that the corporate jet she claimed to have sold for profit on eBay was actually sold at a loss to a campaign contributor. That's about I've seen on the nightly news anyway.

So maybe it is up to the Democrats to create some 30 second ads with some of her extreme quotes such as these:

“So Sambo beat the bitch!” - a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination

People who know her say she refers regularly to Alaska’s Aboriginal people as “Arctic Arabs”
or “f**king Eskimo’s,”

"I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that,"

Speech at Assembly of God church., June 2008

Labeled the U.S. mission in Iraq a "task that is from God"

Speech at Assembly of God church., June 2008


The end of the ad could say "Is this who we want to be a heart beat from the Presidency?"

Nah... Campaign focus should remain on change. McCain is the head of the ticket. Just point out how they both don't represent change. Let the media expose the truth in what little way they will. And pray the National Enquirer finds some legit dirt.

Has to be a DNA test or ORIGINAL birth certificates. Birth certificates are regularly amended by the states (i.e. lies are printed on them, such as one's adoptive parents being birth parents.)

Yes, and it's beyond frustrating. On this board we have freepers or whatever they are who rant about "disposing of a flag honorably" but care little about the missing honor of the Fourth Estate--except for a minority of great men...who, seemingly, are being silenced one by one.

During the later stages of the War in Vietnam, I remember seeing a photograph...may have been in Life magazine, I can't remember. It was of a camera, a Nikon, lying in the mud, with a bullet hole through the lens. That image was more startling to me at the time than all the photos of the horrors of the war.

Yeah... lets hope an Obama-Biden administration forces these media conglomerates to break up... Of course, I wouldn't expect them to say they were going to do that during the election stages.

Yeah, it'd be nice. But it's a different world than it was when FDR was President...in 1933, even the disgustingly rich were a little scared. What I see going on now is a welcoming of the coming destruction of the economy by the ultra rich. If they can push the middle class back down to the poor level, they will be disenfranchised, and the rich, in their rather shallow world view, will have regained complete control.

Will the Media Vet Sarah?


Consider how long the presidential campaign has been running. Then consider how little vetting from the media McCain has received. If the truth about McCain can go largely unreported for years, hiding Palin's warts for 58 days will be easy.

Very true, Kane, no accountability for McCain's past and present ethical malfeasances.


Also:
The quality of real news is found in so few places these days. I really think National Enquirer, Us Weekly and People should merge with CNN and Fixed News. News, all in one place.

And you know what? If Mr. Bullet, Steve Schmidt wants to play this victim game with Palin and shield her fragile bubble, the news pundits should boycott her (call their bluff). Then we're back to McPain.

I agree with Kane. The main hope for the Dems to counter the media's lying through omission are if liberal 527s can get airtime, but I haven't seen any evidence yet that will happen.