I was going to let this business of sexist epithets tossed the way of Governor Palin slide, but the Bitch song today was the last straw. Does anyone really think this is doing your cause any good? I can tell you, women who were angry about the sexist BS tossed at Senator Clinton by Obama supporters are feeling our noses are being rubbed in it. Last Friday I heard Randi call Ms. Palin a breeder! Did I hear that correctly? What the hell is that supposed to mean? There is no shortage of issues to use against the Republicans. This name calling is sexist garbage, even if it is a woman doing it, it still means the same thing.

Really, if she has to be called names, what is wrong with fake, phony, liar, disingenuous, fanatic, extremist, ...? Oh, those would not pack the same punch, because they could equally apply to a male politician. I get it. If you name callers cannot stick to the issues, you deserve to lose.

Excatly what it implies.

That progesterone dispenser deserves all the name-calling she gets, her and her nasty little crotchfruit she hides behind to ingratiate herself to her extremist constituency.

How is Carabou Barbie for an insult? I also refer to McCain as McCrazy though so...

Oh, how rich, and how evasive of my questions. Thanks for confirming I heard what I thought I heard. I wonder what you name callers might think of this more thoughtful opinion by Jo Freeman: Sarah Palin: A Risky Move and A Gift to the Women's Movement

Jo Freeman seemed to be selling word count to someone. She looked at Sarah Palin as a female only...nothing about who she is as a person. Fact is Sarah Palin is the opposite of what any thinking feminist would want. Joe Biden is more of a feminist than Sarah ever thought of being. I think Ms Freeman was insulting women.

People who support that filthy conservative tart turn back "the women's movement" whatever that is supposed to be these days, back to 1920.

There is NOTHING "feminist" or pro-woman about Sarah Palin.

Jo Freeman is full of crap. What a f'ing idiot.

Stick around...you're bound to hear plenty more about that battle axe.

Methinks people have trouble with reading comprehension. Not only did these responders completely miss my point, they missed what Jo Freeman was trying to say as well. It is hard to believe they even read the link, more likely jumping to conclusions from the title.

Drippy-Vagina does ZERO for the cause of "the women's movement", not even in a round-about way that Jo Freeman is trying to claim.

Tell us, what is she trying to say? She keeps changing topics...one paragraph she just STARTS to talk about something then she's wandering off to Walter Mondale. It's nonsense.

It's like she was given the assignment to Tell the History of the World in 25 words or less and she actually decided to give it a try.

Whats wrong with calling her Carabou Barbie?

Well ... for one thing, you are spelling caribou wrong.

UNLESS! He's talking about the popular Thai rock group "Carabou."

Well I didn't spell check it and it is not a word I used all that much until recently. I will spell it right from now on so there is no confusion. Caribou Barbie is just dreamy, her and McCrazy make quite a couple. Did I spell McCrazy right?

Here's a great idea, why don't you and everyone else who thinks that women are better off getting coat-hanger abortions in the back allies than having to put up with a bit of "sexist name calling" of a anti-democratic fascist whore to the oil industry, vote for McCain and McToken?

So when your daughter dies of a botched unsanitary abortion, or ends up in prison for taking a birth control pill, you can come back here and do a snitty "take that you nasty name callers".

First, may I say that I AM WOMAN.

Second, may I say that this "sexist" whining on behalf of Miss American Taliban is perhaps more of an insult to my intelligence and my femininity than selection of the CHRISTO-FASCIST BREEDING BITCH FROM HELL to be one heartbeat away...

Here is what Drippy Vagina (thx carmen) had to say on the subject herself:

Sarah Paliban: Hillary Clinton Needs to Stop Whining "SEXISM"



Political Correctness: Just another Boomer waste of time and energy.

Name calling is simply a catharsis for people who can't argue the issues. It makes them feel good "here take than you so and so....."

Randi called Hillary a bitch and whore in public - made her audience laugh, probably made her feel good too.

But what does any of this accomplish? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Name calling can be a great benefit to one's argument. Let's face it, everyone does it - some merely camouflage it better.

How about pit bull with lipstick? She called her self a mean dog, doesn't that open the door to bitch?

While name calling has its place (during a celebrity roast), generally it serves no greater good. Name calling is usually used to dismiss ............. to disrespect ............... to put down. Derogatory name calling generally just hardens attitudes on both sides. Rarely does it lead to a flash of Sufi inspired clarity that changes anybody's mind.

Exactly!!!!! She may be a woman but she has subjugated herself to a man and will take women back to the 50's!

Why don't you go back over to Freeperville and clean up your own damn political party? The rampant lying and deception that is so openly accepted in that political party would be a good place to start.

But, but, but....doesn't the rightwing consider their word "lybrul" namecalling??

GRRRRL POWER!

(and sorry about the Boomer bashing - but you know that's my schtick and I'm schtickin' to it.)

It's Not Personal, Sonny. It's Strictly Politics.

I think it was John McCain who made the joke:

why is Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father.

Seems it's like that on both sides, you are not any less guilty.

This is a message board for listeners of a radio talk show host. Barack Obama and his campaign has been talking the issues, thank you very much. It is the republickens who are not talking real issues because they have been an abject failure in the last eight years, and have nothing to offer except more failed and unhealthy policies and outright egregious lies. When the Associated Press publishes a fact sheet enumerating the outrageous lies a Vice Presidential nominee told the American people in her speech the other evening, criticizing name calling by fans of a radio show is trivial. Forget the fact that pundits on the right have been name calling for over fifteen years. If you can honestly look at what your candidates stand for and still support them; you should remain on the right wing boards and post your complaints about us there.

Right. And calling members of an outgroup names tends to strengthen bonds in an ingroup, because it assuages people's insecurity when they elevate themselves by diminishing others. Identifying and dehumanizing an "enemy" is the single most powerful power-consolidation tool that exists.

It would seem that if you think it's okay to make sexist comments about a woman candidate, you'd also be okay with racist comments about a black candidate.

Yes?

The right opened Pandora's Box, and now they're crying because they can't take it.

Give it a shot and see

I didn't realize that different races were objectifying themselves as a race all over the internet. Try making videos where you pay people to do white/black face for starters though I seriously doubt you get hits anything like you would with porn.



Is your question actually about the rules to this forum since we are allowed to say anything about a political candidate but not to one another?

Althea, here we go again. We ARE dealing with a lying, power hungry, vindictive bitch - who John McCain is using as a vicious attack dog to consolidate his religious, psycho base (end times for the Jews is what they want). We don't want those votes anyway - they are already so far gone into crazy land. MEDIC!!!!

But we must fight the fight she is fighting, and she is fighting with brass knuckles - which is against the rules in a boxing ring --- crooked, crooked, cuckoo and may I add sadistic.

There are good women and bad women, just as there are bad men and good men. She is a breeder, and I must say, not an honest, breeder, AND one that did not take much care about bringing her latest baby to life, waiting hours before letting herself be admitted into a hospital, to let the baby come to life.

Yet she uses that baby as a prop - while at the same time saying women who are raped or victims of incest should have no choice as to whether to have that rapist's baby, and all the while, at the very same time she approves of no planned parenthood classes for young women, but instead tells them to simply abstain, doncha know - easy. Disgusting and disingenuous.

She's a hard, sick case just like Bush/McCain. Why she can gut and dress a moose and shoot unsuspecting wild animals from her very own airplane. SOOOOO, she knows the taste of blood and money (cronyist) - and I will not let John McPain (cronyist) who heartily approves of torture (now there's a twist) propel her along as a valid veep candidate. Which for the very same reasons - HE is not a valid candidate. EXAMINE HIM!!!!

We are fighting an uphill battle --- not much news on the real news about these two, or even the Bush Administration, who is financing this mess. That's why the people have to get squarely behind Obama and Biden in the next 60 days before it's too late.

Fighting about naming should be the least of our concerns. The facts on the RRMB front page should be read and distributed, so that we can win in November.

You mean like calling Clarence Thomas an "uncle Tom"?

Sometimes "name calling" is just the most accurate description.

Breeder it a label anti-gay/ anti-gay adoption/fosterprenting_ people have earned for themselves...it's the only difference between gay couples and ....well...breeders It is on issue. Palin is anti-gay rights. The fact that she has a large and growing brood just makes it funnier,sadder,more pathetic, poignant, and throw in that one kid is off Iraq to avoid a criminal record, another will be having a shot-gun wedding, Maybe, if the baby daddy will do the right Christian thing...

It's the HYPOCRISY of the RW that has earned them that label...family values...gay people can't marry, can't adopt because they won't be able to hold together a good household with good chrisitan values to pass along to their children...yet the very same people who say that crap can't keep their own families on track and that's ok, it's what happens in families...it's a private matter. Oh. Pahleeeze. Breeders make me sick.

And I say that as a straight gal.

No. I was trying to point out that people who would always consider racist remarks unacceptable are coming up with justifications for using sexist remarks. I see little difference between the two, but different standards are being applied to each of them. Both are derogatory comments based on the supposed characteristics of an oppressed group. The justification for sexist remarks could easily be converted into justifications for racist remarks.

But people who are making sexist remarks don't want to acknowledge the similarity.

Name calling can serve a very legitimate purpose and I think we're seeing it here. Hurling an insult at someone can be a pretty good indicator of the target's self esteem. If the target, or supporters of the target, have a high self esteem level and are generally comfortable with themselves and their accomplishments the insult finds no purchase and the resulting impression is irritation and a feeling that the one doing the insulting is merely childish and uninformed. But the less comfortable the target or supporters of the target are with their standing the more vehement the opposition to the insult will be. When the insults are actually at their core true the level of opposition will become very well organized and lead to desperate attempts to tie the target to larger causes than herself (or himself) in order to shore up deficits in the target's character with attributes they themself do not possess.

So suck it up, you're only making our case for us with all your whining.

What We've All Been Waiting For: Repugs Play the "Uppity" Card

Satisfied now, Undo?

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Your Guide to McCain Campaign Code Words for 2008

ambitious = black
arrogant = black
celebrity = black
community organizer = black NEW!
different = black
elitist = black, with Harvard education
exotic = black
inexperienced = black, and 47
risky = black
socialist = black, with Healthcare Plan
too famous = too black
too liberal = too black
too skinny = too black
too young = too black
unpatriotic = black

Women are being oppressed today? What race is being oppressed today? I don't see any justification going on. If someone is a retard I don't have to justify saying they are a retard since they clinically are. I don't see how saying Obama is a black man is racist but he's also a white man but we forget that I guess and only concentrate on the black side since we can pretend that part of him is oppressed. Is this the type on nonsense you mean to imply?

What is your point? That two wrongs make a right? That since some idiot on the right forgot to use a code word and said what he really meant, sexist remarks about Palin are okay?

Undo?

Or maybe that the right has to remember to use code words since what they really mean is so unsavory it can't be spoken without damaging their effort. But once in a while one slips and the whole facade falls with them.

I'm going to assume you just forgot to hit the sarcasm button. If you are serious you should change your user name to Pollyanna. And 'retard' is a derogatory term. Using it says more about you than the person you're describing.

There isn't one.

Can't argue with that. BTW, good list. (Your Guide to McCain Campaign Code Words for 2008).

ctrl-Z has meant Undo since the days of VAX... but on to the red meat...

a never-ending stream of racial slurs, veiled and otherwise, has been hurled (no pun) at Obama for 18 months (or his entire lifetime, whichever you prefer). He has demonstrated, without question, that he is man enough to take it. Miss American Taliban has cracked in less than a week.

This is Politics. The Big Leagues. And since when have the RW freakazoids become such a bunch of candy-ass whiners, anyway?

How would a GenXer know that? Do you also know what DCL stood for? Xtra points if you know if it was interpreted or compiled.

It's been ages since anyone did the translation. Caught me by surprise.

Oops! I guess there is; silly me.

Digital Command Language (interpreted scripting logic) and I also had Fortran (compiled) in college on those whiz-bang Tandy 1000s. You see, I am exactly the same age as Barack Obama - 47 - and we are the standard bearers of GenX. I became an expert in SGML back in the 80s and, as I'm sure you are aware, that paved the path to HTML very nicely.

Whasamatta? You under the mistaken impression that only RW freaks profited in the Internet Gold Rush, back when a "tax & spend" liberal was in the White House and the economy was humming? This is why I have so much time to devote to slamming the Insane Geezer and Miss American Taliban 24x7.

I AM WOMAN. HEAR ME ROAR.

you have to type in :sar..asm: type out out the whole word of course

a. for repubs to complain about name calling is so funny i cant come up with a good line

b. the war in iraq was about wmd statement by the right reminds me of guys who say they buy playboy for the articles, yeah right (i made that one up myself)

c. i didnt KNOW YOU WERE A WOMAN!

I must say, you fight like a man, ooops...is that sexist? probably is, but I assumed you were a man...i want you on my side all the way to the bitter end