Some of you are filled with too much Doom and Gloom. Some think that Obama will lose because McCain picked a beauty queen for VP.
Compare and contrast Palin with Bush-the similarities are the same. Low executive experience, low expectations, both full of shit, both big deficit people.

I for one am sick and tired of all this propaganda being posted. I don't think the Obama campaign is about to let those Rovian bastards win. Have faith...it will all start coming together very soon I think!

Right on, they are gonna burn themselves down while we watch. Oh and my hand is busted, so that's whats wrong with me.

Thanks for the pep talk.

Here's the problem, with the 2004 Kerry campaign as a reminder. Too Little, too late, can be a campaign killer.

Hopefully, they have not waited too long to release the 527s. I for one have been advocating it for a long time, and unfortunately, to the chagrin of some of the members in here that think that Obama can win on the issues. He can not. The republicans wont let it happen that way, and they are good at what they do.

Until dems learn to fight fire with fire, slime with slime, 2008 will just be a repetition of 2000 and 2004.

Do I like it that way? Hell no, but its the only way to win in the world we live in.

I don't think Obama will lose because of the Beauty Queen.

I think he will lose because of things that none of us can control.

Rove and his bosses are not leaving the campaign to chance.

It's a done deal. Always was.

Up until McCain's campaign jumped the shark, I thought that we actually had a chance.

The fact that the people in control went this route, for the reasons they did makes it pretty darn clear who is in charge.

and it ain't us.

Obama is NOT Kerry.

I just hosed my post, while trying to edit it.

Oops ...

MAN, let's hope not ...

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There is no WHINING in Politics!

There is also a glimmer of hope that some MediaCorpses have suddenly realized that they, too, are CITIZENS first...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/10/g...a_n_125291.html

I am holding off the doom and gloom, but recently experienced a severe episode of cognitive dissonance while hearing McCain rail about CEOs profiting from the FannieMae/FreddieMac debacle. HOW is this devastating result of deregulation and privatization DIFFERENT from the Keating 5 and the S&L disaster in which McCain was up to his ears (and for which taxpayers ALSO picked up the tab)? Privatize the profit and socialize the loss. Same old. Same old. Pardon me while I go off and try to hold two opposing views simultaneously and not die of cognitive dissonance.

P.S.
For cognitive resonance, listen to your intuition!

NEM you remember that Kerry built the whole campaign around his Vietnam experience. He surrounded himself with campaign managers whose spines might have been stolen by aliens or whatever. Mary Beth Cahill managed a muted campaign along with Bob Schrum, a guy who lost eight straight campaigns. Remember how week Kerry fought back. Nothing like the Obama campaign.
Have faith. The American people will come together I believe.

Reality tells us that the trend is going strongly in the WRONG direction, and if it continues that way, we WILL wake up one morning early next year to see President McCain (Palin?) on T.V.

Are you doing anything to support Obama's campaign besides posting your thoughts here?

I hope so.

If not, will you commit to giving your time to the Obama campaign? Make calls? Register voters? Raise money from family and friends?

If not, will you make the largest possible financial donation you possibly can? If not, will you at least go to your local Democratic Party office and get signs and bumper stickers for all your cars?

If not, in my opinion, you're very, very serious part of a very, very serious problem: liberal lazyness showing up as the lack of sufficient actual, real commitment to save the country.

Conservatives aren't lazy. They get out there and volunteer in droves. Not liberals. We complain a LOT. But we stay disorganized for longer, and it takes more to get liberals (on average) to actually get up off the couch and WORK.

Given the reality of the current downward trend we REALLY do need to get ourselves in gear ... NOW.

For instance ... I'm an independent Obama Campaign fundraiser, and you can be too!

I write a blog and send out action and info alerts to my email circle of about 300 names (save all those liberal organization email addresses from the messages you get all day long, etc.!). You can too!

There's a TON of things we could do. The way things are now going, we NEED to do them. It's no longer an option. It's now very much a necessity ... unless we want to hand the keys to the White House to McCain (and later ... OMG ... Palin?). Call the number in bold, below, to put your own time and energy where your mouth is.

Please, to quote Dennis Kucinich:

WAKE UP (LIBERAL) AMERICA!!!

Reality is we're going down. Doesn't mean we'll lose ... it means we will likely lose IF we keep doing what we're doing now. We need to get in gear, each of us, all of us, right now (or sooner, if possible).

The house is burning, people. Denial won't help, it'll only let the fire destroy more of the house. We need hoses, water, and people to put out the blaze.

My queries on this board indicate (by the dearth of affirmative comments indicating active participation in the Obama Campaign) that only a SHAMEFULLY small percentage of people on this board are doing anything substantial to help Obama win other than sing his praises.

Please, don't just write posts ... step up and make the Obama victory actually happen.

Please, don't just sit there reading this ... DO IT!

Thank you.

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This might seem silly, but how do I get an Obama sign or many, for my place. Granted we live in the middle of nowhere, but I could place them out front to show my support, I just don't know how to get them. I doubt they'll last a week, but hey, it's worth a try.

I ordered a sign from Obama's site but haven't gotten it yet. They said it might take a while. I did get my "Got Hope?" shirt though. Pretty cool!

Rush Limbouchery said Obama lost his aura since the Republican Conv. BOUNCE. The halo is gone . . . now.

Omg yeah, Rusho, yes, I only loved Obama for his aura and halo and oh, I guess no more parting of the waters.

We are winning. We already know the polls are pushed for many, many reasons. I have them on ignore.

I remembered today, was I as excited about John Kerry? No. This is different and the country is different.

I hate comparisons being made to Obama's campagin all the time.

There are no comparisons. This is new and that won't be stopped.

get involved

Here is whom the Repufascists can't touch: The tens of millions of young voters under the age of 30. These are "kids" going to work, school and struggling who are out there. They aren't being contacted by 20th Century pollsters and will never be. But, they are voting for Obama.

They don't talk about this at the water cooler at your jobs, because, that's not were young people discuss important topics. They do it on-line, via their iPhones and Blackberry's, etc. This election is not going to be decided by us middle aged farts. It is going to be decided by the youth of this country. Support them and have some faith in them. You might not "get them" but they get the issues.

Now, another major indicator says Obama is going down:

For the VERY FIRST TIME ... Intrade shows Obama BEHIND McCain!

http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/trading...selConID=409933

GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF THE SAND, PEOPLE!

OUR GUY IS LOSING AND WILL GO DOWN UNLESS WE CUT THE DENIAL AND GET TO WORK -- NOW!!

There's no question that Obama is in trouble. Voter fraud will give McCain a huge advantage. Obama needs to be quite a ways ahead, just to break even.

This IS an emergency. The house IS on fire, people.

WAKE UP!!!

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only way ... got link ??? ...

"... fight fire with fire, slime with slime ..."

..... you further polarize the country, our country .....
fight fire and slime with facts ....


or you become them !!!!!


like " "I don't care what they say about me. But I love this country too much to let them take over another election with lies and phony outrage and swift boat politics. Enough is enough,"...
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/10/cam...ref=mpstoryview

with facts



imprudent :
... crazy, foolish, heedless, ill-advised, impolitic, impracticable, improvident, inadvisable, incautious, indiscreet, injudicious, negligent, procacious, rash, reckless, unwise

That's the sound of the house going up in flames.

This is an emergency. Stay asleep, and it's over.

Our guy is going down. And HE WILL LOSE, given the observable reality (polls, and even Intrade, now favoring McCain for the FIRST TIME), if we don't get our lazy liberal butts in gear and do a heck of a lot more than write posts about how bad the Republicans are.

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Until then, are you doing any actual work to actually help the Obama campaign?

I hope so.

If not, I think epitomize one of the biggest problems we have: a country full of lazy liberals who'll complain but won't take their time to make calls or do anything else of substance to join the effort to save America from the Republican nightmare.

The Obama is basically the ONLY effort that matters, at this particular point in time, if one is a liberal in America ... in my opinion.

If you're not part of it, you're part of the problem.

Please do what I think you know we ALL need to do.

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It is called Progressive Bitchazziness. It is a lot more fun to ignore the electoral college which is how we elect Presidents and instead focus on the daily polls which vary widely, are consistently wrong, and change by the second.

The one way Presidents are elected is the one thing most ignored on this board. Ask Gore if winning the popular vote will get you the election.

While I get angry at some of the passivity I have seen on the part of Democrats the numbers are the numbers.

I have made several donations to the campaign plus phone calls. I can't do too much more because of health issues.

awesome


is it me or is the lecturing from a certain poster getting old

Palin.........the other White Meat. Right on Randi Way to go! I do believe she is reading the blog here! Keep it up guys, she needs all the help she can get!

Here is my OPINION of why a bunch a idiots think that Obama will lose to Palin and McCain.

Some Dems believe that putting Palin in was a good move, because it will split the party....wait what party the democratic party????

First, the repubs are the one who are split over Palin. Those right wing religious preachers were preaching so much anti-woman stuff in the pulpits that I'm not surprised that the divorce rate didn't go up...but white church women take that shit...any ways... the repubs really don't know their asshole from a hole in the ground. They will more than likely not vote, or vote Bob Barr than to have a female.

On the other hand, the dems, who are cool with chicks, had their minds blew when McWahts-his-face chose a female as a vice, because psycologically we can "seei t" or handle the thought process that it takes to comprehend the idea of a female VP; a trait that repubs DO NOT posses.

Therfore, the dems got a litttttttle shakey when a woman took the stand. We know the anguish we went through with Hillary and Obama, and now we feel those same ole feelings all over again.... but REMEMBER. We are NOT LIKE THEM!

They are not like us.

They have been discombobulated to the core and we have been shaken with Hillary vs Obama Post Tramatic STress Disorder.

So.... WAKE THE FUCK UP, BIOTCHES!!!!

Get over IT!

Get in GEAR and MOVE OUT on to the Campaign trail... or send money.

This is our Election to win and by golly gee wally we're gonna win it!

Excellent!

I hope you'll keep doing all you can safely do.

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Good Points...everyone needs to no worry about the "kerry" effect....go have a glass of wine and enjoy yourself....so far Obama has been hitting back...and dont forget to donate or wait until the bottle is finished and donate 100s of dollars...

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"Number-crunching pollster sees decisive Obama win"

35 minutes ago

NEW YORK (AFP) - A pollster whose mathematical model has correctly predicted every winner of the White House popular vote since 1988 is banking on a decisive victory for Democrat Barack Obama in November.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080910/ts_af...fB8AyLvvuph24cA

thats encouraging but we stillneed to vote...I say regardless of how the polls are folks still need to go vote...remeber NH...he was winning so folks did not go vote b/c they assumed he would win...

For sure!

Let them vent it is better than being too confident and sitting it out.

No, instead they'll depress themselves and countless others and we'll have everyone believing they can't beat you people.

I DON'T THINK SO, but nice try.

That's right, Deke!

Damn...you're still here?

i like this idea.

* note to self, hide credit card the next time i buy newcastle.......

Non-progressives have been dropping off this board like they've been sprayed with Raid.
Keep your eye on that space. It could be vacant soon. Wouldn't want you to miss it.

I don't have much time or resources, but I see a lot of people everyday. So I talk to them. I insert politics into conversations with customers as often as I can. Three young guys were at the bar the other day, and they started talking the election. One guy said, "I'm not voting, because this is California, and it's going to go to Obama, anyway." That's all I needed. I asked him how he thought (ultra-conservative) Orange County was going to vote. I told him his vote was like his "manhood." If you don't use it, sure as hell, you're going to lose it. I do what I can, and I have hope still, even though my head wants to explode.

If the unthinkable happens, I will not run to New Zealand or wherever. I'll stick it out and fight. And I'm sure I'll find guys like RandiLover and Ishmael at my back, because I'll have theirs.

It's good to know how well Raid works on vermin.

this?

QUOTE (21tikcah @ Sep 10 2008, 01:20 PM)

only way ... got link ??? ...

"... fight fire with fire, slime with slime ..."

..... you further polarize the country, our country .....
fight fire and slime with facts ....


or you become them !!!!!

like " "I don't care what they say about me. But I love this country too much to let them take over another election with lies and phony outrage and swift boat politics. Enough is enough,"...
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/10/cam...ref=mpstoryview

with facts

imprudent :
... crazy, foolish, heedless, ill-advised, impolitic, impracticable, improvident, inadvisable, incautious, indiscreet, injudicious, negligent, procacious, rash, reckless, unwise

nice...

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I keep saying the same thing.

Stop running around scared of stupid Rove and now Stupid Sarah. They fear US.

They are DEATHLY afraid of us. That is WHY they act like this in the first place.

The 2006 mid-term election was a watershed moment. The negative attack ads that have become a republican staple surprisingly didn't work. Despite the republican mantra that terrorists would win if Democrats were elected, and the promise that the country would be in a shambles with a Nancy Pelosi congress, the country voted overwhelming for Democrats ensuring a Democratic majority.

Despite a long presidential campaign and our national reputation of having a short attention span, the public remains energized and is tuned-in to the issues, and this election is being followed very closely by every account. We have seen record turnouts in the Democratic primaries in state after state, with multitudes of new voters registering and as democrats. And we have witnessed record numbers in small donations to the Obama campaign.

In previous elections, the negative attacks and misleading ads that McCain is using would certainly have been effective, but not this time. Such ads rely heavily on an uninformed and uninspired public. Not only are McCain's negative ads proving to be ineffective, but the media throughout the country is increasingly calling McCain and Palin out for their outright lies. With each misleading statement about Barack Obama, McCain is damaging his own straight-talk brand. And as for Palin, The Atlanta Journal Constitution wrote, "her image is increasingly that of a guiltless liar". The negative campaign of McCain and Palin is more of a reflection on them, and that is a lasting impression.

In case you're interested, here is the link to the article from The Atlanta Journal Consitution, the only major daily newspaper in Atlanta, Georgia. Such stories and op-eds can be found in newspapers throughout the country. This is something that much of the media didn't do in the elections of 2000 and 2004. It's a good sign.

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-bl...d_to_bridg.html

No one ever said this was going to be easy. Nothing worth having ever is.

If Obama loses it will be the media's fault

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/opinion/...tml?ref=opinion

This.

In all things, approach the campaign with this philosophy and you will do great things.

Reality is a bitch. The Repugs are not in a position of strength, they are at a historic lowpoint. Everything that could possibly benefit a Dem has happened and still we have whingers here who aren't happy unless Obama has a 20 point lead and McCain was just caught fucking a chicken on the Senate floor.

Some things to get you off the roof:

1, The economy sucks, unemployment is up, houses have lost all their equity, the stock market has gone no where in 8 years.
2. Gas prices are out of control due to having Repugs in office. Oil is selling for 103 dollars a barrel. Know how much gas was selling for the last time oil was that price? 3.10 a gallon. Is that what you are paying now?
3. McCain hired a buffoon for Veep, the bump she temporarily gets now will slowly evolve into less sensational rationalization that this person has a fucking bachelors degree in journalism and is more qualified to be a weather forecaster than the president.
4. Obama is a smart fellow who toppled a political dynasty handily. He hasn't shown his hand yet but if you think he is going to be another Kerry you aren't the brightest lightbulb in the lampstore.
5. The campaign STARTED THIS WEEK wait for the fucking debates before you start worrying about polls.

Have a nice day.

I will not stop my campaigning and I will not stop my focus on the election.

However, the fact is, we need to prepare ourselves mentally for the fix.

Just today in our local newspaper, a member of the editorial staff wrote about having received several "thank you" letters from some Kentucky Republicans running for local office for her "donations" and request for yard sign.

Only problem: she never donated any money to these gents. She called and was told the donation was "cash."

Sadly my husband and I, both registered Republicans, received a similar letter last week from Mitch McConnell's campaign. Problem? Neither of us donated to him.

Ditto for my daughter and her husband.

Oh, we DID donate to campaigns this year. To John Yarmuth and Obama.

In addition, there was a small piece in the paper about a "break in" at John Yarmuth's local campaign office. What was stolen? The computer "server" and a jump drive.

Shades of freaking Watergate!

So now we have an apparently HUGE donation laundering operation AND a theft of campaign data and private information.

In Kentucky.

Nixon was a piker compared to the New Republicans.

Winning "fairly" and with legitimate voice heard from the public isn't an option anymore.

I USED to trust our voting machines, too.

Now, however, to say I'm skeptical would be an understatement.

How can you "win" when you aren't playing by the same rules?

Two words:

Atticus Finch.

John Cusack said it best in todays A. Huff post:



Just.....wait for it.