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Polytickd
All I have to say is that women have ruined this election. Hillary, PUMAS, PaLIAR...they are so emotional. I am looking at all of these news shows and its like the commentators are walking on thin ice when they are interviewing women.

They can't say what REALLY needs to be said One of them just shut Chris Matthews up. He talked over her. And she's like "I'm not finished yet." and He's like "Ok." GROW A BACKBONE! None of these people can say what needs to be said without it being spun into sexism. I hope America can see through this. The McBush camp are a$$holes and I hate being a woman right now.

Starbuck
Well I'm a woman and I'll say what needs to be said. STFU! tongue.gif

You need to calm down and stop being so emotionally manipulated by the media. This is all one big game. Blaming women for this nonsense, when men are still in charge is amusing. biggrin.gif

Lastly, Chris Matthews shouldn't talk over anyone male or female its rude. I can't stand the corporate media thinking screaming and yelling should pass as rational political discourse.
hansolo01
QUOTE (Polytickd @ Sep 10 2008, 07:21 PM) *
All I have to say is that women have ruined this election. Hillary, PUMAS, PaLIAR...they are so emotional. I am looking at all of these news shows and its like the commentators are walking on thin ice when they are interviewing women.

They can't say what REALLY needs to be said One of them just shut Chris Matthews up. He talked over her. And she's like "I'm not finished yet." and He's like "Ok." GROW A BACKBONE! None of these people can say what needs to be said without it being spun into sexism. I hope America can see through this. The McBush camp are a$$holes and I hate being a woman right now.

The truth is the bible has led many women down into submission for so many centuries that when the bible belt sees a woman in a superior postion than their husband, they begin to think why not me and vote her in no matter what she says or does. This in turn gets mccain elected and the republican women out and voting again. pisses off all the macho men , enough that they have to swallow their pride and vote for mccain anyways. suckers to the end. you want the truth the churches have been preaching republican and alienating democrats, yet who can they blame for this eight year run of bad politics , not us. If you run a car in a bad way it goes up in smoke, which is where we are now. nuff said
Christine
QUOTE (Polytickd @ Sep 10 2008, 05:21 PM) *
All I have to say is that women have ruined this election. Hillary, PUMAS, PaLIAR...they are so emotional. I am looking at all of these news shows and its like the commentators are walking on thin ice when they are interviewing women.

They can't say what REALLY needs to be said One of them just shut Chris Matthews up. He talked over her. And she's like "I'm not finished yet." and He's like "Ok." GROW A BACKBONE! None of these people can say what needs to be said without it being spun into sexism. I hope America can see through this. The McBush camp are a$$holes and I hate being a woman right now.


I'm an outspoken women and what I think needs to be said is that YOU need to shut up and sit down...women are over 1/2 the population...deal with it, asshat!

Oh, you didn't hear me? THAT'S BECAUSE I'M NOT FINISHED! I hear ice breaking...you shouldn't have walked out on it...now STFU!!!!

MisplacedAlaskan
QUOTE (Polytickd @ Sep 10 2008, 03:21 PM) *
All I have to say is that women have ruined this election. Hillary, PUMAS, PaLIAR...they are so emotional. I am looking at all of these news shows and its like the commentators are walking on thin ice when they are interviewing women.

They can't say what REALLY needs to be said One of them just shut Chris Matthews up. He talked over her. And she's like "I'm not finished yet." and He's like "Ok." GROW A BACKBONE! None of these people can say what needs to be said without it being spun into sexism. I hope America can see through this. The McBush camp are a$$holes and I hate being a woman right now.


Heh. You're joking . . . right? You're mad at women who insist upon being heard? You're upset that women are asserting their rights as American citizens to freedom of expression?

Emotional? More to the point is the differences between the male and the female brain. The male mind is unabe to process thoughts both logically and emotionally at the same time. Men can either think logically or emotionally, but cannot do both at the same time. Women, on the other hand, are able to multitask and accomplish both logical and emotional thought processes at the same time . . . evolution is both a wonderful thing and a curse, eh?

Anyone who interrupts or talks over another is rude. Course, I come from a culture where every voice is important and everyone has a chance to speak up, as long as they take that chance. But, I come from a matrilineal culture, where the pressure is ensure a fraternity/sorority between people . . . unlike the dominant American, hierarchical, patrilineal culture.
Christine
QUOTE (MisplacedAlaskan @ Sep 10 2008, 08:31 PM) *
Heh. You're joking . . . right? You're mad at women who insist upon being heard? You're upset that women are asserting their rights as American citizens to freedom of expression?

Emotional? More to the point is the differences between the male and the female brain. The male mind is unabe to process thoughts both logically and emotionally at the same time. Men can either think logically or emotionally, but cannot do both at the same time. Women, on the other hand, are able to multitask and accomplish both logical and emotional thought processes at the same time . . . evolution is both a wonderful thing and a curse, eh?

Anyone who interrupts or talks over another is rude. Course, I come from a culture where every voice is important and everyone has a chance to speak up, as long as they take that chance. But, I come from a matrilineal culture, where the pressure is ensure a fraternity/sorority between people . . . unlike the dominant American, hierarchical, patrilineal culture.


Where have you been!!!!! hug2.gif
rememberearth
QUOTE (Christine @ Sep 10 2008, 10:37 PM) *
Where have you been!!!!! hug2.gif

I KNOW RIGHT! laugh.gif
JRunRun
QUOTE (Starbuck @ Sep 10 2008, 04:33 PM) *
Well I'm a woman and I'll say what needs to be said. STFU! tongue.gif

You need to calm down and stop being so emotionally manipulated by the media. This is all one big game. Blaming women for this nonsense, when men are still in charge is amusing. biggrin.gif

Lastly, Chris Matthews shouldn't talk over anyone male or female its rude. I can't stand the corporate media thinking screaming and yelling should pass as rational political discourse.



Hahah... Kinda like the repub-owned media that is so liberal.
PleaseNotPalin
I think that if Hillary Clinton was not married to Bill Clinton, she would have won with no problems.
egghead
QUOTE (PleaseNotPalin @ Sep 11 2008, 09:38 AM) *
I think that if Hillary Clinton was not married to Bill Clinton, she would have won with no problems.


Hillary miscalculated all those years ago, that Bill was her ticket. She was smart enough to pursue her dreams with or without a political star beside her. Now, ironically, he is the baggage that kept her from even being vetted for a V.P. position in the Obama administration.
Polytickd
Hold on. Whats STFU?
QUOTE (Starbuck @ Sep 10 2008, 07:33 PM) *
Well I'm a woman and I'll say what needs to be said. STFU! tongue.gif

You need to calm down and stop being so emotionally manipulated by the media. This is all one big game. Blaming women for this nonsense, when men are still in charge is amusing. biggrin.gif

Lastly, Chris Matthews shouldn't talk over anyone male or female its rude. I can't stand the corporate media thinking screaming and yelling should pass as rational political discourse.

Polytickd
Hey, no need for the harsh language. You're talking to me like I'm not a woman. I'm just fed up with them pulling the gender card this election season thats all. And McCain's camp is definitely pulling the gender card. No need to get all rowdy and EMOTIONAL. Especially on the internet! lol

QUOTE (Christine @ Sep 10 2008, 10:26 PM) *
I'm an outspoken women and what I think needs to be said is that YOU need to shut up and sit down...women are over 1/2 the population...deal with it, asshat!

Oh, you didn't hear me? THAT'S BECAUSE I'M NOT FINISHED! I hear ice breaking...you shouldn't have walked out on it...now STFU!!!!


Polytickd
And I'm not being manipulated by the media hun. I work in the media so I know very damn well what they do. Thats what I have a problem with.
QUOTE (Polytickd @ Sep 11 2008, 11:01 AM) *
Hold on. Whats STFU?

Polytickd
I think voting on the war messed her up.
QUOTE (PleaseNotPalin @ Sep 11 2008, 10:38 AM) *
I think that if Hillary Clinton was not married to Bill Clinton, she would have won with no problems.

egghead
QUOTE (Polytickd @ Sep 10 2008, 06:21 PM) *
All I have to say is that women have ruined this election. Hillary, PUMAS, PaLIAR...they are so emotional. I am looking at all of these news shows and its like the commentators are walking on thin ice when they are interviewing women.

They can't say what REALLY needs to be said One of them just shut Chris Matthews up. He talked over her. And she's like "I'm not finished yet." and He's like "Ok." GROW A BACKBONE! None of these people can say what needs to be said without it being spun into sexism. I hope America can see through this. The McBush camp are a$$holes and I hate being a woman right now.


As others have said, you are a victim of the corporate media narrative which is propaganda slimey more than ever now ---->which means BushCo is really scared ----> Obama is going to win Mr. Cheney and Mr. Bush - get the fuck over it.

You made a couple of blanket statements in which you blame a whole gender for ruining everything. The media is feeding/selling you that like sugar coated cereal.

And you say "they are so emotional" - that whole gender thing again, responsible for this big mess your perceive. See what you've done? The media has done?
Polytickd
Listen, I'm not saying that women can't multi-task and speak out. I'm a woman so of course I don't believe that. I just hate the fact that you have these women on TV trying to divide things up. And that is true. Look at McCain's camp of women saying Barack is being sexist over that whole lipstick thing. So women at home don't know no better. They hear them saying this and they take that thought to the ballot. Look at the PUMA women on TV telling women not to vote democratic. This was my point. And someone on here also said men are still in charge. Well I know that. DUH. I'm just upset that women still fall into this trap. And don't tell me these PUMA women aren't being emotional because they are.

As for Chris Matthews, I didn't mean he was talking over her. That was the wrong phrase I used. She was talking. And stopped. He started then she cut him off. He was not being rude about it at all. But he seemed as though he was just like I better let these women just get their way or they will call me sexist again. He difinitely treat the women more gentle than he treats the men when he interviews now.

But this is my point. And no, I am not joking.

QUOTE (Christine @ Sep 10 2008, 10:37 PM) *
Where have you been!!!!! hug2.gif

MisplacedAlaskan
QUOTE (Christine @ Sep 10 2008, 06:37 PM) *
Where have you been!!!!! hug2.gif


Back at you, Christine!

Been around. Haven't had too much to say, though. Not a whole lot to keep my interest. This thread, though, got my interest.
MisplacedAlaskan
QUOTE (Polytickd @ Sep 11 2008, 07:17 AM) *
Listen, I'm not saying that women can't multi-task and speak out. I'm a woman so of course I don't believe that. I just hate the fact that you have these women on TV trying to divide things up. And that is true. Look at McCain's camp of women saying Barack is being sexist over that whole lipstick thing. So women at home don't know no better. They hear them saying this and they take that thought to the ballot. Look at the PUMA women on TV telling women not to vote democratic. This was my point. And someone on here also said men are still in charge. Well I know that. DUH. I'm just upset that women still fall into this trap. And don't tell me these PUMA women aren't being emotional because they are.

As for Chris Matthews, I didn't mean he was talking over her. That was the wrong phrase I used. She was talking. And stopped. He started then she cut him off. He was not being rude about it at all. But he seemed as though he was just like I better let these women just get their way or they will call me sexist again. He difinitely treat the women more gentle than he treats the men when he interviews now.

But this is my point. And no, I am not joking.


So, what's yer beef with women in the media? How negatively they are being portrayed? That has more to do with the media moguls (who tend to be white males with too much money and not enough time to spend it) and their inherent, latent or otherwise disguised misogynistic tendencies.

You should not rail so against the divine feminine, but take a moment to figure out why the media is behaving in such a fashion towards those of the female sex. Also, take some pride in being a woman. Don't try to hide behind the word 'them' when referring to women -- you come across as a bit, um, self-loathing.

As CodePink is apt to say, pink is a powerful color . . . but, it has gotten a bum rap of late. Especially when it comes to this rather hierarchical, rigid patriarchy that most WASPMs tend to identify as being the dominant American culture. Since women are playing a bigger role in politics, of course there are going to be some men out there who feel displaced. But, don't you jump on their bandwagon and besmirch all of the female sex simply because of how women are being portrayed in the media.

There will always be insecure men -- even in matrilineal societies. There will always be insecure women, as well. The trick is to turn that insecurity into a strength -- don't allow the insecurity to block your ability to learn, to grow and to overcome this insecurity.
Hammerhead
QUOTE (Polytickd @ Sep 11 2008, 08:17 AM) *
Listen, I'm not saying that women can't multi-task and speak out. I'm a woman so of course I don't believe that. I just hate the fact that you have these women on TV trying to divide things up. And that is true. Look at McCain's camp of women saying Barack is being sexist over that whole lipstick thing. So women at home don't know no better.


Uh, if you're in the "media", then you know it's "So women at home don't know any better.

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They hear them saying this and they take that thought to the ballot. Look at the PUMA women on TV telling women not to vote democratic.


PUMA is bullshit. They're not democrats, and they're not likely women. Don't beleive everything you read on the internets...

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This was my point. And someone on here also said men are still in charge. Well I know that. DUH. I'm just upset that women still fall into this trap. And don't tell me these PUMA women aren't being emotional because they are.


I think you're being emotional.

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As for Chris Matthews, I didn't mean he was talking over her. That was the wrong phrase I used. She was talking. And stopped. He started then she cut him off. He was not being rude about it at all. But he seemed as though he was just like I better let these women just get their way or they will call me sexist again. He difinitely treat the women more gentle than he treats the men when he interviews now.

But this is my point. And no, I am not joking.


Chris Mathews is a misogynistic POS. It's not women's fault he's an ass.
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