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CWV
Got this E-Mail from my sister who still thinks Obama is Muslem. She's getting political advice from the very rich republican Dr. she works for.

Anyway, has anyone heard about this?

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The switch has begun!

Please help do this ... refuse to accept these when they are handed back to you. I received one from the Post Office as change and I asked for a dollar bill instead. The lady just smiled and said, 'Way to go,' so she had read this e-mail. Please help out. Our world is in enough trouble without this too!

U.S.Government to Release New Dollar Coins



You guessed it

IN GOD WE TRUST' IS GONE!

If ever there was a reason to boycott something, THIS IS IT!

DO NOT ACCEPT THE NEW DOLLAR COINS AS CHANGE

Together we can force them out of circulation.

Please Send to all on your mail list


If this is true, I'm going to order hundreds of them, and spread them like Johnny Appleseed.


TapDuncan
Aw shit, talk about bullshit, I say we write in ALL GOD'S WE TRUST, wouldn't that be unifying and not decisive? And I'm an atheist. I would say, IN NO GOD DO WE TRUST, ONLY OUR POLITICIANS, then when they fuck up we know who to blame.
whatswrongwithpeace
Not true.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/dollarcoin.asp
Hardball
Damn, beat me to it.

Thank you Snopes for also pointing out that, "In God We Trust" wasn't put onto our money until the 1950's.

RandiLover
This problem was handled 2000 years ago. Christ was setup by the religious people of the time. The people were told to give taxes to the government, but the religious thought they would trap this man with their crafty plan. He simply looked at the coin and asked them, "Who's image is on the coin?" They replied Cesar. "Then give to Cesar what is Cesar's, and give to God what is God's." So the writing on the coin means nothing to my master. What matters is what is in your heart, and how you treat your fellow brothers.
CWV
QUOTE (whatswrongwithpeace @ Sep 13 2008, 04:52 PM) *


Thank You, wwwp. I will certianly include this in my reply to sis. smile.gif
whatswrongwithpeace
QUOTE (CWV @ Sep 13 2008, 03:58 PM) *
Thank You, wwwp. I will certianly include this in my reply to sis. smile.gif

No problem.
RandiLover
QUOTE (CWV @ Sep 13 2008, 01:58 PM) *
Thank You, wwwp. I will certianly include this in my reply to sis. smile.gif


Tell her what I said.
theoldcreak
QUOTE (whatswrongwithpeace @ Sep 13 2008, 04:52 PM) *


I love it. A completely made-up story and the mindless ones are outraged! Pitiful really.
TapDuncan
Randilover--Glad to see you back again today, I know it sucks crawling around under a house, shit, the spiders freak me out!!! Hang Tough Bro', Tap
martsmart
I'm visiting here in Australia, and neither the coins nor the bills have any mention of a god on them.

How, in god's name, does this heathen nation manage to even survive, let alone thrive?

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However, the coins ARE all graced with a portrait of Queen Elizabeth, so there's THAT, lol...

smile.gif
5by5
QUOTE (CWV @ Sep 13 2008, 01:46 PM) *
New US Dollar Coin, sans "In God We Trust"

Would it be wrong at this juncture to say "Thank God?" laugh.gif

How about "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and render unto God, that which is God's"?

Now can we get it out of the damn Pledge too?

And can we change the National Anthem to "America the Beautiful"? I'm tired of the "rockets red glare" and "the bombs bursting in air" & I'd like a bit more "brotherhood from sea to shining sea", "fruity plains", "liberty in law", "love of mercy", and "alabaster cities gleaming". And I'd damn sure appreciate it if "selfish gain no longer stained the banner of the free".

Oh, and Jefferson wanted the National Bird to be a Dove, too.... Can we hook that up?

RoyPDX
QUOTE (5by5 @ Sep 13 2008, 03:47 PM) *
[...]
Oh, and Jefferson wanted the National Bird to be a Dove, too.... Can we hook that up?


lol And I understand Benjamin Franklin preferred the turkey to the eagle. He felt the turkey to be a much nobler creature as, among other things he listed, "eagles are generally lousy."

http://www.clickondetroit.com/sh/holidays/...113-135438.html
5by5
Franklin also called it a "scavenger and a thief" and "a symbol of European mischief" [Read: war-mongering and senseless bloodshed].
RandiLover
QUOTE (TapDuncan @ Sep 13 2008, 02:38 PM) *
Randilover--Glad to see you back again today, I know it sucks crawling around under a house, shit, the spiders freak me out!!! Hang Tough Bro', Tap



Almost done, I had went underneath and had the last of the piping ready to install, only to find out that I had grabbed ACR 5/8" copper, I needed 3/4 L copper, OHHHHHHHHHH! I will try to finish it off and then start testing tonight. A broom and turbo torch and a full jumpsuit, spiders no prob.
RoyPDX
QUOTE (RandiLover @ Sep 13 2008, 04:05 PM) *
Almost done, I had went underneath and had the last of the piping ready to install, only to find out that I had grabbed ACR 5/8" copper, I needed 3/4 L copper, OHHHHHHHHHH! I will try to finish it off and then start testing tonight. A broom and turbo torch and a full jumpsuit, spiders no prob.

laugh.gif For some reason this reminded me of an old joke Steve Martin once told. I can't remember the set up lines, but the punch line was, "I said SOCKET not SPROCKET!" (or vice versa, I can't remember lol)
5by5
QUOTE (RoyPDX @ Sep 13 2008, 04:08 PM) *
I said SOCKET not SPROCKET!"

You are so beautiful and angular… and if you were a gas, you’d be inert. Und now on Sprockets it iz time to Dance.

known2b
QUOTE (Hardball @ Sep 13 2008, 03:55 PM) *
Damn, beat me to it.

Thank you Snopes for also pointing out that, "In God We Trust" wasn't put onto our money until the 1950's.


You are partially right. Link It wasn't put onto all our money until 1957.

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IN GOD WE TRUST first appeared on the 1864 two-cent coin.
Another Act of Congress passed on March 3, 1865. It allowed the Mint Director, with the Secretary's approval, to place the motto on all gold and silver coins that "shall admit the inscription thereon." Under the Act, the motto was placed on the gold double-eagle coin, the gold eagle coin, and the gold half-eagle coin. It was also placed on the silver dollar coin, the half-dollar coin and the quarter-dollar coin, and on the nickel three-cent coin beginning in 1866. Later, Congress passed the Coinage Act of February 12, 1873. It also said that the Secretary "may cause the motto IN GOD WE TRUST to be inscribed on such coins as shall admit of such motto."

The use of IN GOD WE TRUST has not been uninterrupted. The motto disappeared from the five-cent coin in 1883, and did not reappear until production of the Jefferson nickel began in 1938. Since 1938, all United States coins bear the inscription. Later, the motto was found missing from the new design of the double-eagle gold coin and the eagle gold coin shortly after they appeared in 1907. In response to a general demand, Congress ordered it restored, and the Act of May 18, 1908, made it mandatory on all coins upon which it had previously appeared. IN GOD WE TRUST was not mandatory on the one-cent coin and five-cent coin. It could be placed on them by the Secretary or the Mint Director with the Secretary's approval.

The motto has been in continuous use on the one-cent coin since 1909, and on the ten-cent coin since 1916. It also has appeared on all gold coins and silver dollar coins, half-dollar coins, and quarter-dollar coins struck since July 1, 1908.

A law passed by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by the President on July 30, 1956, the President approved a Joint Resolution of the 84th Congress, declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States. IN GOD WE TRUST was first used on paper money in 1957, when it appeared on the one-dollar silver certificate.
GaryWTrott
QUOTE (whatswrongwithpeace @ Sep 13 2008, 04:52 PM) *

Well the dollar thing may be untrue but I've heard that a George W. Bush quarter is in the works.


He's a real two bit president. wink.gif
carmenjonze
How about "In the Constitution we trust"?

Oh wait, conservative christians DESPISE the Constitution and think their Bibles are above it, and us.

Nevermind.
RandiLover
QUOTE (GaryWTrott @ Sep 13 2008, 06:44 PM) *
Well the dollar thing may be untrue but I've heard that a George W. Bush quarter is in the works.


He's a real two bit president. wink.gif



It started out a dollar, now its an FDIC quarter.
GCurry
How about "In Us We Trust"?
rocas511
QUOTE (CWV @ Sep 13 2008, 04:46 PM) *
If this is true, I'm going to order hundreds of them, and spread them like Johnny Appleseed.


Hell yeah! I am going to watch for these!
5by5
How about we dump the fake trust thing altogether? Democracies are not based on trust in authority figures, but in rational skepticism about them.
mottazuma
QUOTE (whatswrongwithpeace @ Sep 13 2008, 01:52 PM) *

The Republican party...all bullshit, all the time.
mottazuma
QUOTE (RoyPDX @ Sep 13 2008, 04:08 PM) *
laugh.gif For some reason this reminded me of an old joke Steve Martin once told. I can't remember the set up lines, but the punch line was, "I said SOCKET not SPROCKET!" (or vice versa, I can't remember lol)


Here's the joke:

http://rossum.blogspot.com/2008/02/steve-m...nny-fellow.html

Apparently only funny if you are a plumber.
pantherace
What if instead of new coins, they come out with new paper dollars that say "In __________ we trust" and we just get to write in our own and spread them around?
AjaxMinoan
At my work we got loads of these new Presidential dollar coins in our machines. I could put a $20 in and get like 16 of them right now. Maybe I'll borrow my mom's digital camera and show you guys the coins.
They have 'In God We Trust' on them, but they are on the edge of the coin. Over time, it might wear off though.

I like that our coins have that on it.

Oops, Whatswrongwithpeople beat me to it. Sorry to correct you folks twice.
carmenjonze
QUOTE (AjaxMinoan @ Sep 14 2008, 01:34 AM) *
At my work we got loads of these new Presidential dollar coins in our machines. I could put a $20 in and get like 16 of them right now. Maybe I'll borrow my mom's digital camera and show you guys the coins.
They have 'In God We Trust' on them, but they are on the edge of the coin. Over time, it might wear off though.

I like that our coins have that on it.

Oops, Whatswrongwithpeople beat me to it. Sorry to correct you folks twice.


I don't trust in any god, because I do not need a god. I am not alone.

Stop shoving your god down the throats of the entire country, that phrase needs to be taken off.
AjaxMinoan
QUOTE (Hardball @ Sep 13 2008, 03:55 PM) *
Damn, beat me to it.

Thank you Snopes for also pointing out that, "In God We Trust" wasn't put onto our money until the 1950's.


This isn't true either. 'In god we trust' first appeared on our money in like 1862 I think. It wasn't law until the 1950's to have it on all US currency.

I actually have an 1888 silver dollar in my bedroom that has IGWT on it.
AjaxMinoan
QUOTE (carmenjonze @ Sep 14 2008, 03:39 AM) *
I don't trust in any god, because I do not need a god. I am not alone.

Stop shoving your god down the throats of the entire country, that phrase needs to be taken off.


No one is forcing you to eat these coins.

AjaxMinoan
Oops, I made an assumption about the full name of Whatswrongwithpeace.
I figured it was Whatswrongwithpeople.
FanFiltration
If the "In God We Trust" is imprinted on the edge of the coin, it should be kinda easy to rub off.
carmenjonze
QUOTE (AjaxMinoan @ Sep 14 2008, 01:47 AM) *
No one is forcing you to eat these coins.


Take the phrase off.

We don't need it.
CWV
QUOTE (carmenjonze @ Sep 14 2008, 09:05 AM) *
Take the phrase off.

We don't need it.


Not only do we not need it, it's not true. ''We'' would include all of us and all of us don't even believe in g-d let olone trust in him.
NEM


With due respect to your sister, and her opinions, but she is a prime example of the type of voter that the republican party preys upon, and wins their support. Again, with due respect, these type of voters are lvery dangerous people because of their failure to take the time to check out the truth, and how they easily fall for the fascist tactic of lies, and innuendo.

And,might I suggest you send her these comments, with the picture.
stinemetz
But IN GOD WE TRUST Is On The Outside Edges Now
It's The Republicans That WE WILL NOT TRUST
CWV
QUOTE (NEM @ Sep 14 2008, 11:24 AM) *


With due respect to your sister, and her opinions, but she is a prime example of the type of voter that the republican party preys upon, and wins their support. Again, with due respect, these type of voters are lvery dangerous people because of their failure to take the time to check out the truth, and how they easily fall for the fascist tactic of lies, and innuendo.

And,might I suggest you send her these comments, with the picture.


You can believe I set her straight. Thing is Doc. has her for 50 hrs. a week and my time with her is much less. I've been educating her daughters though, and they're working on her too.
RealLiberal1
How about "In Darwin We Trust"??
RealLiberal1
Here's another take..
RoyPDX
QUOTE (AjaxMinoan @ Sep 14 2008, 01:44 AM) *
This isn't true either. 'In god we trust' first appeared on our money in like 1862 I think. It wasn't law until the 1950's to have it on all US currency.

I actually have an 1888 silver dollar in my bedroom that has IGWT on it.

http://www.scvhistory.com/scvhistory/signa...oinage0306b.htm

And it took Teddy Roosevelt, a "God fearing Republican" to take it back off:

"Then came Teddy Roosevelt.

"When old TR commissioned the Irish-born Augustus Saint-Gaudens to sculpt new $10 and $20 gold coins in 1905 (minted in 1907), they omitted "In God We Trust." To Saint-Gaudens, the motto was an "inartistic intrusion" that was allowed but not required under the prevailing Coinage Act of 1873.

"To the God-fearing Roosevelt, putting the motto on something so base as the nation's instruments of commerce "is in effect irreverence, which comes dangerously close to sacrilege," he said.

"Plus, the particular phrase, "In God We Trust," struck a dissonant chord with the Republican president. He favored keeping a national gold standard, while Democrats and Nevada silver miners wanted to put the nation on a formal gold-and-silver standard at a ratio of 16:1. Mining lobbyists erected large roadside signs showing a silver dollar with the slogan, "There is only 63 cents worth of silver in this dollar. ... In God We Trust for the balance." Some merchants displayed signs reading, "In God We Trust. All Others Cash."
proudfootz
"God With Us"


Putting "In God We Trust" on currency is just as phoney as the motto "Gott Mit Uns" used by Nazis.
J2NYC
Snopes says that "In God We Trust" is there, but, ironically, the word "Liberty" has been removed. Tell that to your sister, CWV. We have God, but we no longer have liberty.
RealLiberal1
QUOTE (J2NYC @ Sep 14 2008, 05:00 PM) *
We have God, but we no longer have liberty.


That is also symbolic to our American way of life. rolleyes.gif


AjaxMinoan
Our coins should have nothing on them. No presidents, lady liberty; Eplurbius Unum or anything. Not everyone is fond of these things. The denomination and the country where the money is good should be all that's on there. If they do anything else, I consider it being shoved down my throat. I'll complain until I get what I like.
RealLiberal1
QUOTE (AjaxMinoan @ Sep 14 2008, 05:54 PM) *
Our coins should have nothing on them. No presidents, lady liberty; Eplurbius Unum or anything. Not everyone is fond of these things. The denomination and the country where the money is good should be all that's on there. If they do anything else, I consider it being shoved down my throat. I'll complain until I get what I like.


Nothing at all? All or nothing?
This country is made up of many cultures and the ideas behind liberty and freedom. Somewhere in the mix we lost touch of that.

"United We Stand" or "Freedom For All" would have been better and more neutral choices.
danisnape
QUOTE (AjaxMinoan @ Sep 14 2008, 05:54 PM) *
Our coins should have nothing on them. No presidents, lady liberty; Eplurbius Unum or anything. Not everyone is fond of these things. The denomination and the country where the money is good should be all that's on there. If they do anything else, I consider it being shoved down my throat. I'll complain until I get what I like.


We should start a petition to take the presidents' faces off of the currency and have them put Jesus being scourged at the pillar instead.

Something really nice and bloody, horrific enough to make babies cry.

Then when people are against it, we simply ask them why they hate Jesus. It sure feels good to stoop to their level sometimes.
RoyPDX
QUOTE (danisnape @ Sep 14 2008, 04:04 PM) *
We should start a petition to take the presidents' faces off of the currency and have them put Jesus being scourged at the pillar instead.

Something really nice and bloody, horrific enough to make babies cry.

Then when people are against it, we simply ask them why they hate Jesus. It sure feels good to stoop to their level sometimes.

Ha ha! So true. I know! Let's just put Mel Gibson's picture on all our coinage and currency. smile.gif
bushwa
QUOTE (CWV @ Sep 13 2008, 01:46 PM) *
Got this E-Mail from my sister who still thinks Obama is Muslem. She's getting political advice from the very rich republican Dr. she works for.

Anyway, has anyone heard about this?

If this is true, I'm going to order hundreds of them, and spread them like Johnny Appleseed.



Tell her to check the edge of the coin. Damn, people can be so stupid. Em...er...not your sister, of course. I mean, the doctor of copurse...um, oh, shit - I think I'll just shut up now.

bushwa
QUOTE (whatswrongwithpeace @ Sep 13 2008, 01:52 PM) *


Ah, it appears I am WAY behind on this thread. I should have just looked ahead to see if others explained.

It is funny how this years-old BS is circulating again just now, though.


I wish there were a way to scare up a team of college interns to comb EVERY entry at snopes and compile stats on what percentage of the whole are the utter bullshit tales circulated about the imminent collapse of the country at the hands of wild-eyed liberals, or similarly ideologically tinged false allegations about liberals, and what percentage are myths circulated by libs about conservatives. I would wager conservative slime out polls the lib trash by AT LEAST 4 to 1, but I just can't prove it empirically.

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