http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KjsEs46C70
This just ran on MSNBC a few moments ago ... interesting.
Full Version: Swiftboating John McCain
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Brave New PAC airs an ad in which a fellow former prisoner of war attacks McCain, Swift-boating in the classic sense and a (for the McCain campaign) welcome opportunity for McCain to cast himself as the victim in a media environment in which he's being cast as the aggressor.
McCain aide Michael Goldfarb responds: "It's unfortunate that Senator Obama has fallen so far, from opposing outside expenditures and supporting public financing at the beginning of this race to opting out of public financing and now "looking the other way" on independent expenditures — no matter how vile."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/090..._vs_McCain.html
McCain aide Michael Goldfarb responds: "It's unfortunate that Senator Obama has fallen so far, from opposing outside expenditures and supporting public financing at the beginning of this race to opting out of public financing and now "looking the other way" on independent expenditures — no matter how vile."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/090..._vs_McCain.html
I just saw this "Brave New PAC" spot on MSNBC. My jaw hit the floor.
that is the one i talked about earlier
stunning isnt it
and
what is positively marvelous about it is, unlike the kerry swiftboating, this one is true...
stunning isnt it
and
what is positively marvelous about it is, unlike the kerry swiftboating, this one is true...
That's what's called a truth gotcha ad !!!!!!!!! Mccain is not the only Pow there are lots of them!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, I've been posting this the past few weeks:
Tell me what you think.
Like John McCain, I'm a third-generation seafaring man. Unlike John McCain, my Dad and Granddad weren't Admirals but able seamen sailing before the mast. My Granddad went to sea in 1900 aboard the last of the square-riggers and had his Sailor's Union of the Pacific union card signed by Andrew Ferusuth, founder of the union and author of the Seamen's Act of 1915. My father served in the Merchant marine all through World War 2 and was shot at by representatives of all three Axis powers while a civilian serving in the Aleutians, North Africa, Sicily, Italy and at Iwo Jima. I have personally hunted the Great Steel Whales as a destroyer sonarman across four of the five oceans and six of the seven seas.
So Call Me...Ishmael:
Call me...Ishmael
For this nation truly IS the crew of the Pequod. Drawn from all the isles of the sea, All the ends of the Earth. From Greenland to Mombassa, From Clyde to Kokoboko.
The crew of the Pequod
I have listened to Father Mapple's Sermon. Like the sailors in that sermon, I have marked John McCain as a Jonah and Ahab:
Father Mapple's Sermon
Through his entire career, from his Academy days, through his naval career, his political life to the present, bad luck and ruin have followed in his wake. Scarred body and soul by his experiences, he is chasing his white whale of the Presidency. and he'll chase it around Good Hope and around the Horn and around the Norway Maelstrom and even around Perdition's Flames before he'll give it up. Not because he has any grand strategic vison, merely because he WANTS it.
The Death of Ahab
Wake Up Dead Man
So sign aboard, me lads. Sign aboard the Pequod, you green-faced blowsies. Just remember what Elijah told me:
"There'll come a day at sea when you'll smell land where there be no land. On that day, Ahab will go to his grave. But he will rise again within the hour. Rise and beckon. Then ALL, all save one will follow."
I write this in the forlorn hope that I'll not have to echo my namesake's last words:
"I, ALONE, am left alive to tell Thee the tale."
For I AM Ishmael, and I must keep the true watch.
Ishmael Aloft
This is one of the few boards I can embed the videos in. Any ideas on others so I can spread the word would be greatly appreciated. Also, feel free to pass this on yourself.
Tell me what you think.
Like John McCain, I'm a third-generation seafaring man. Unlike John McCain, my Dad and Granddad weren't Admirals but able seamen sailing before the mast. My Granddad went to sea in 1900 aboard the last of the square-riggers and had his Sailor's Union of the Pacific union card signed by Andrew Ferusuth, founder of the union and author of the Seamen's Act of 1915. My father served in the Merchant marine all through World War 2 and was shot at by representatives of all three Axis powers while a civilian serving in the Aleutians, North Africa, Sicily, Italy and at Iwo Jima. I have personally hunted the Great Steel Whales as a destroyer sonarman across four of the five oceans and six of the seven seas.
So Call Me...Ishmael:
Call me...Ishmael
For this nation truly IS the crew of the Pequod. Drawn from all the isles of the sea, All the ends of the Earth. From Greenland to Mombassa, From Clyde to Kokoboko.
The crew of the Pequod
I have listened to Father Mapple's Sermon. Like the sailors in that sermon, I have marked John McCain as a Jonah and Ahab:
Father Mapple's Sermon
Through his entire career, from his Academy days, through his naval career, his political life to the present, bad luck and ruin have followed in his wake. Scarred body and soul by his experiences, he is chasing his white whale of the Presidency. and he'll chase it around Good Hope and around the Horn and around the Norway Maelstrom and even around Perdition's Flames before he'll give it up. Not because he has any grand strategic vison, merely because he WANTS it.
The Death of Ahab
Wake Up Dead Man
So sign aboard, me lads. Sign aboard the Pequod, you green-faced blowsies. Just remember what Elijah told me:
"There'll come a day at sea when you'll smell land where there be no land. On that day, Ahab will go to his grave. But he will rise again within the hour. Rise and beckon. Then ALL, all save one will follow."
I write this in the forlorn hope that I'll not have to echo my namesake's last words:
"I, ALONE, am left alive to tell Thee the tale."
For I AM Ishmael, and I must keep the true watch.
Ishmael Aloft
This is one of the few boards I can embed the videos in. Any ideas on others so I can spread the word would be greatly appreciated. Also, feel free to pass this on yourself.
the idea of mccain even being close in the polls, let alone ahead
brings to mind the movie idiocracy...
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/idiocracy/
the morons really will rule the day if this keeps up
brings to mind the movie idiocracy...
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/idiocracy/
the morons really will rule the day if this keeps up
QUOTE (Randys @ Sep 15 2008, 06:44 PM) 
the idea of mccain even being close in the polls, let alone ahead
brings to mind the movie idiocracy...
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/idiocracy/
the morons really will rule the day if this keeps up
brings to mind the movie idiocracy...
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/idiocracy/
the morons really will rule the day if this keeps up
as they say in the vernacular - fuck a duck:
http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/trading/t_index.jsp
QUOTE (Ishmael @ Sep 15 2008, 06:41 PM)
Well, I've been posting this the past few weeks:
Tell me what you think.
Like John McCain, I'm a third-generation seafaring man. Unlike John McCain, my Dad and Granddad weren't Admirals but able seamen sailing before the mast. My Granddad went to sea in 1900 aboard the last of the square-riggers and had his Sailor's Union of the Pacific union card signed by Andrew Ferusuth, founder of the union and author of the Seamen's Act of 1915. My father served in the Merchant marine all through World War 2 and was shot at by representatives of all three Axis powers while a civilian serving in the Aleutians, North Africa, Sicily, Italy and at Iwo Jima. I have personally hunted the Great Steel Whales as a destroyer sonarman across four of the five oceans and six of the seven seas.
So Call Me...Ishmael:
Call me...Ishmael
For this nation truly IS the crew of the Pequod. Drawn from all the isles of the sea, All the ends of the Earth. From Greenland to Mombassa, From Clyde to Kokoboko.
The crew of the Pequod
I have listened to Father Mapple's Sermon. Like the sailors in that sermon, I have marked John McCain as a Jonah and Ahab:
Father Mapple's Sermon
Through his entire career, from his Academy days, through his naval career, his political life to the present, bad luck and ruin have followed in his wake. Scarred body and soul by his experiences, he is chasing his white whale of the Presidency. and he'll chase it around Good Hope and around the Horn and around the Norway Maelstrom and even around Perdition's Flames before he'll give it up. Not because he has any grand strategic vison, merely because he WANTS it.
The Death of Ahab
Wake Up Dead Man
So sign aboard, me lads. Sign aboard the Pequod, you green-faced blowsies. Just remember what Elijah told me:
"There'll come a day at sea when you'll smell land where there be no land. On that day, Ahab will go to his grave. But he will rise again within the hour. Rise and beckon. Then ALL, all save one will follow."
I write this in the forlorn hope that I'll not have to echo my namesake's last words:
"I, ALONE, am left alive to tell Thee the tale."
For I AM Ishmael, and I must keep the true watch.
Ishmael Aloft
This is one of the few boards I can embed the videos in. Any ideas on others so I can spread the word would be greatly appreciated. Also, feel free to pass this on yourself.
Tell me what you think.
Like John McCain, I'm a third-generation seafaring man. Unlike John McCain, my Dad and Granddad weren't Admirals but able seamen sailing before the mast. My Granddad went to sea in 1900 aboard the last of the square-riggers and had his Sailor's Union of the Pacific union card signed by Andrew Ferusuth, founder of the union and author of the Seamen's Act of 1915. My father served in the Merchant marine all through World War 2 and was shot at by representatives of all three Axis powers while a civilian serving in the Aleutians, North Africa, Sicily, Italy and at Iwo Jima. I have personally hunted the Great Steel Whales as a destroyer sonarman across four of the five oceans and six of the seven seas.
So Call Me...Ishmael:
Call me...Ishmael
For this nation truly IS the crew of the Pequod. Drawn from all the isles of the sea, All the ends of the Earth. From Greenland to Mombassa, From Clyde to Kokoboko.
The crew of the Pequod
I have listened to Father Mapple's Sermon. Like the sailors in that sermon, I have marked John McCain as a Jonah and Ahab:
Father Mapple's Sermon
Through his entire career, from his Academy days, through his naval career, his political life to the present, bad luck and ruin have followed in his wake. Scarred body and soul by his experiences, he is chasing his white whale of the Presidency. and he'll chase it around Good Hope and around the Horn and around the Norway Maelstrom and even around Perdition's Flames before he'll give it up. Not because he has any grand strategic vison, merely because he WANTS it.
The Death of Ahab
Wake Up Dead Man
So sign aboard, me lads. Sign aboard the Pequod, you green-faced blowsies. Just remember what Elijah told me:
"There'll come a day at sea when you'll smell land where there be no land. On that day, Ahab will go to his grave. But he will rise again within the hour. Rise and beckon. Then ALL, all save one will follow."
I write this in the forlorn hope that I'll not have to echo my namesake's last words:
"I, ALONE, am left alive to tell Thee the tale."
For I AM Ishmael, and I must keep the true watch.
Ishmael Aloft
This is one of the few boards I can embed the videos in. Any ideas on others so I can spread the word would be greatly appreciated. Also, feel free to pass this on yourself.
I think it hits the nail on the head. Captain Ahab will bring us all down. Beautiful Ismael!
Did you see some of the comments under that? These right wing nuts are absolutely insane. They can talk crap about this man who is just as much a POW as McCain but it's not okay for a fellow POW to say stuff about McCain because he is a POW. I honestly can not believe I live in the same country as these ridiculous hypocrites. It truly makes me sick that some in other countries are identifying me with these people. There is sooo much hate on their side, and I have no desire to let McCain get away with playing the POW card after the vicious lies his party told about John Kerry's service to this country. Absolutely disgraceful!!!
This is a direct result of McLame playing the POW card every time he's put on the hot seat.
Wes Clark warned McCain not to play that tune. But he has and now it's on like Donkey Kong.
There were lots of guys that got tortured in Vietnam and didn't sign statements against their country.
McCain brought this upon himself.
Wes Clark warned McCain not to play that tune. But he has and now it's on like Donkey Kong.
There were lots of guys that got tortured in Vietnam and didn't sign statements against their country.
McCain brought this upon himself.
Yeah, I personally don't give a crap that McCain is a POW and I don't think he is a hero because of it. I used to have some respect for him b4 he was all buddy buddy with Bush but now I really don't care about him at all and if you listen to him speak, it's not even that I don't like him, he and Palin are truly incapable of running this country. They don't know what the hell they are doing!!! McCain might have known at one point but he is too old now, his brain isn't what it used to be and that is crystal clear now. I truly wish Ron Paul were running against us because at least Ron Paul has brains and I do have some respect for Ron Paul. That way even if Obama lost I wouldn't be really scared about the country.
After what the swift boat veterans for truth did in 2004, McCain can take his POW status and shove it down his throat for all I care!!!
After what the swift boat veterans for truth did in 2004, McCain can take his POW status and shove it down his throat for all I care!!!
After all the slop his campaign has been running, I'm glad to see someone else putting it out there shredding his POW entitlement. I get so damned tired of hearing people using his POW experience to defend anything said poorly of him; he can't remember how many homes - because he spent 5 years in a room in Hanoi as A POW!!!! He doesn't use a computer because his POW experience has made touching anything painful for him. He's old because he was a POW. He's a liar because he's a POW.
Christ, why don't we just anoint the lying, flip-flopping, classless bastard a fricking saint because he was a POW. Matter of fact, let's make everyone who's been a POW President of the United States.
You freaking people who continue to use that lame-azz excuse should all be forced to spend a year in a 5 X 5 X 5 galvanized iron cage and THEN rot in hell.
Not that I want to get too emotional about this entire McShame/POW issue......
Christ, why don't we just anoint the lying, flip-flopping, classless bastard a fricking saint because he was a POW. Matter of fact, let's make everyone who's been a POW President of the United States.
You freaking people who continue to use that lame-azz excuse should all be forced to spend a year in a 5 X 5 X 5 galvanized iron cage and THEN rot in hell.
Not that I want to get too emotional about this entire McShame/POW issue......
QUOTE (Randys @ Sep 15 2008, 03:11 PM)
... unlike the kerry swiftboating, this one is true...
I'm glad someone mentioned that. For me, anyway, a lie or lying is inherent to "Swiftboating."
This is a guy offering his opinion of McCain based upon what he saw. It's not phony documents, invented scenarios and lies about who did what. For that reason, I don't think this is actually "Swiftboating" John McCain. Or is my definition completely different from everyone else's as to what constitutes swiftboating.
QUOTE (listenerdave @ Sep 15 2008, 10:11 PM)
After all the slop his campaign has been running, I'm glad to see someone else putting it out there shredding his POW entitlement. I get so damned tired of hearing people using his POW experience to defend anything said poorly of him; he can't remember how many homes - because he spent 5 years in a room in Hanoi as A POW!!!! He doesn't use a computer because his POW experience has made touching anything painful for him. He's old because he was a POW. He's a liar because he's a POW.
Christ, why don't we just anoint the lying, flip-flopping, classless bastard a fricking saint because he was a POW. Matter of fact, let's make everyone who's been a POW President of the United States.
You freaking people who continue to use that lame-azz excuse should all be forced to spend a year in a 5 X 5 X 5 galvanized iron cage and THEN rot in hell.
Not that I want to get too emotional about this entire McShame/POW issue......
Christ, why don't we just anoint the lying, flip-flopping, classless bastard a fricking saint because he was a POW. Matter of fact, let's make everyone who's been a POW President of the United States.
You freaking people who continue to use that lame-azz excuse should all be forced to spend a year in a 5 X 5 X 5 galvanized iron cage and THEN rot in hell.
Not that I want to get too emotional about this entire McShame/POW issue......
Tell us how ya really feel,dave!!
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