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Sasha85
MSNBC is reporting that McCain campaign says Palin will not meet with "Troopergate" investigators because the investigation is tainted and a Democratic driven "witch hunt".


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26727937/
Wayne
So, McCain asks us to put Governor Palin one heartbeat away from the Presidency if anything happens to old John McCain.



But she isn't even prepared or willing to answer questions on Meet the Press. wtf.gif

No thanks on that, I'll take a pass
RandiLover
The people running the government were considered part of the law enforcement team. I guess they are now part of a crime family.
Wayne
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RoyPDX
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LaughinWillow
But as their leader says, if she has nothing to hide, she should have nothing to fear from being investigated, right? Oh, wait, Sarah doesn't even know what the Bush doctrine is. Sorry Sarah - maybe you should have done your homework before deciding to try to be VICE PRESIDENT. Sheesh. laugh.gif
Laura
QUOTE (Wayne @ Sep 16 2008, 03:28 AM) *
So, McCain asks us to put Governor Palin one heartbeat away from the Presidency if anything happens to old John McCain.



But she isn't even prepared or willing to answer questions on Meet the Press. wtf.gif

No thanks on that, I'll take a pass


BUT THEY'RE GOING TO WIN!! EVERYONE IS SAYING ' OH, POOR SARAH....EVERYONE IS PICKING ON HER' AND SHE'LL GET AWAY WITH IT, THE SAME WAY THE BUSHIES ARE GETTING AWAY WITH EVERYTHING!! THIS IS NOT ONLY MORE OF THE SAME, BUT IT'S MORE OF THE SAME SHIT, LIES AND DECEIT!!!! angry.gif wtf.gif tirade.gif hairpull.gif
Deke
QUOTE (Sasha85 @ Sep 16 2008, 02:52 AM) *
MSNBC is reporting that McCain campaign says Palin will not meet with "Troopergate" investigators because the investigation is tainted and a Democratic driven "witch hunt".


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26727937/

Palin's a liar, and full of shit. The whole investigation is bi-partisan. Like Bush and Chaney this zealot is trying to cover up crimes.
LilaTheGreat
What? Is she already claiming EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE? huh.gif
Laura
QUOTE (LilaTheGreat @ Sep 16 2008, 09:51 AM) *
What? Is she already claiming EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE? huh.gif


YEAH! EXACTLY! angry.gif
GCurry
The two-bit mayor, and fitty-cent governor claims privilege? Hahah
bushwa
QUOTE (GCurry @ Sep 16 2008, 07:03 AM) *
The two-bit mayor, and fitty-cent governor claims privilege? Hahah


Oh, Governor's have been claiming a privilege under "deliberative process" rules for a long time, and FAR more frequently than virtually any White House has. That's why there are a lot more court decisions that, on a state by state basis, have far better defined the privileges.

The good news is that it APPEARS several on Palin's staff are prepared to roll over now.

Look, if the State of Alaska came out tomorrow with a well-researched, well-documented case against Palin, it wouldn't change the mind of ANY committed Republican - and certainly not of John McCain, all of whom would be content to dismiss it with the lexicon already provided by the party: Witch hunt. taint, politically motivated investigation, and so forth.

Dems don't NEED such a conclusion, as there is already available more than ample independent evidence of what was taking place. What remains to be seen is how the news would impact the "undecided" and uncommitted. And I'm of the perhaps cynical opinion that ANYONE who is truly undecided between Obama/Biden and McCain/Palin at this point is an idiot.

I don't see a confirmation of that which is already clear, that the Palins abused the Governor's office to wage a war with the governor's former brother-in-law, would have any substantive impact on the outcome of the election.

stinemetz
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5by5
But she's not a member of the "Executive Branch"...
stinemetz
What-about the unitary executive Authority of the one up there State of Alaska.
Lightnup
QUOTE (Wayne @ Sep 16 2008, 03:28 AM) *
So, McCain asks us to put Governor Palin one heartbeat away from the Presidency if anything happens to old John McCain.



But she isn't even prepared or willing to answer questions on Meet the Press. wtf.gif

No thanks on that, I'll take a pass

Sort of like Obama isn't prepared or willing to meet McCain in Town Hall meetings?
NamelessGenXer
QUOTE (Lightnup @ Sep 16 2008, 05:32 PM) *
Sort of like Obama isn't prepared or willing to meet McCain in Town Hall meetings?

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You sure you're down with the Insane Geezer's performance in the town hall setting? I mean, seriously...have you forgotten about these gems that escaped from the doddering puppet brain in an unscripted setting:



"My friends, I'm sorry to tell you, there's going to be other wars."

“My friends, you could make an argument that there’s been great progress economically [during the Bush Administration]…the fundamentals of America’s economy are strong.” <-- and that was months ago clap.gif

"My friends, I don’t think Americans are concerned if we’re [in Iraq] for one hundred years or a thousand years or ten thousand years.”

"My friends, I will have an energy policy which will prevent us from having ever to send our young men and women into conflict again in the Middle East.”

And at the top of this hit parade (everybody sing along): "Bomb, bomb, bomb... bomb, bomb, Iran..."

(and don't forget that 80% of the audience would be biased against McStain and bringing the Dem strategy of pushing the insane old man into losing his notorious temper, hoping he would resort to addressing the females the same way he addresses the lovely Cindy: "you c*nt")

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NoYards
QUOTE (Lightnup @ Sep 16 2008, 05:32 PM) *
Sort of like Obama isn't prepared or willing to meet McCain in Town Hall meetings?


Why, is Obama being investigated by a bi-partisan Town Hall Meeting for abuse of office? Ihadn't heard that one yet, please provide a link.
Lightnup
QUOTE (NoYards @ Sep 16 2008, 05:48 PM) *
Why, is Obama being investigated by a bi-partisan Town Hall Meeting for abuse of office? I hadn't heard that one yet, please provide a link.

No, despite close associations with Terrorist Ayers, Convicted Rezko, Ultra-radical Alinksy, Radical Jeramiah Wright and Communist Frank Marshall Davis, Obama isn't being investigated. Palin, however, is getting a press colonospcopy because she once shot a moose. If Palin was rumored to have any ONE of those kinds of skeletons in her closet, the press would be orgasmic over it and crucify her worse than they are. But let's not investigate The Annointed One. Fair and balanced? Riiiiiight.

Anyhow, my initial response was to Laura, who posted that SP wouldn't go on Meet The Press. I wasn't aware that Meet The Press had an investigative arm. If so, please provide the link.

TwinkleToes
QUOTE (Lightnup @ Sep 16 2008, 03:13 PM) *
No, despite close associations with Terrorist Ayers, Convicted Rezko, Ultra-radical Alinksy, Radical Jeramiah Wright and Communist Frank Marshall Davis, Obama isn't being investigated. Palin, however, is getting a press colonospcopy because she once shot a moose. If Palin was rumored to have any ONE of those kinds of skeletons in her closet, the press would be orgasmic over it and crucify her worse than they are. But let's not investigate The Annointed One. Fair and balanced? Riiiiiight.



It's nice that you bolded the bullshit. Makes it easier to skip over. Thanks!
Lightnup
QUOTE (TwinkleToes @ Sep 16 2008, 06:17 PM) *
It's nice that you bolded the bullshit. Makes it easier to skip over. Thanks!

Hey, my pleasure. Since the press just pretends that stuff isn't really there, I'm glad I could help you avoid it too.
Randys
QUOTE (Lightnup @ Sep 16 2008, 03:13 PM) *
No, despite close associations with Terrorist Ayers, Convicted Rezko, Ultra-radical Alinksy, Radical Jeramiah Wright and Communist Frank Marshall Davis, Obama isn't being investigated. Palin, however, is getting a press colonospcopy because she once shot a moose. If Palin was rumored to have any ONE of those kinds of skeletons in her closet, the press would be orgasmic over it and crucify her worse than they are. But let's not investigate The Annointed One. Fair and balanced? Riiiiiight.

Anyhow, my initial response was to Laura, who posted that SP wouldn't go on Meet The Press. I wasn't aware that Meet The Press had an investigative arm. If so, please provide the link.

is there a legal matter pending that would require an official investigation into any of the matters you list?

or do you just want the media to spend even more time on these dead ends?

why not share with us exactly what is wrong, in detail, including links to credible sources, regards these relationships?? anything? remember, credible..
Randys
lets see, the press is ignoring Jeremiah Wrights relationship with Obama, the links are too many to list here so I wont even bother to refute such an insane premise

ayers? how about that liberal rag Washington Post

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checke...connection.html

The only hard facts that have come out so far are the $200 contribution by Ayers to the Obama re-election fund, and their joint membership of the eight-person Woods Fund Board. Ayers did not respond to e-mails and telephone calls requesting clarification of the relationship. Obama spokesman Bill Burton noted in a statement that Ayers was a professor of education at the University of Illinois and a former aide to Mayor Richard M. Daley, and continued:

Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.
translation = dead end

obama rezko, again, too many main stream media links to put here, again an insane premise that it is ignorned

how about this http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/757...chdog24.article

translation = dead end

the obama davis allegation is absurd also...
TwinkleToes
QUOTE (Lightnup @ Sep 16 2008, 03:40 PM) *
Hey, my pleasure. Since the press just pretends that stuff isn't really there, I'm glad I could help you avoid it too.



I avoid stories that are 99% bullshit.
GCurry
QUOTE (Lightnup @ Sep 16 2008, 03:13 PM) *
No, despite close associations with Terrorist Ayers, Convicted Rezko, Ultra-radical Alinksy, Radical Jeramiah Wright and Communist Frank Marshall Davis, Obama isn't being investigated. Palin, however, is getting a press colonospcopy because she once shot a moose. If Palin was rumored to have any ONE of those kinds of skeletons in her closet, the press would be orgasmic over it and crucify her worse than they are. But let's not investigate The Annointed One. Fair and balanced? Riiiiiight.

Anyhow, my initial response was to Laura, who posted that SP wouldn't go on Meet The Press. I wasn't aware that Meet The Press had an investigative arm. If so, please provide the link.

20 months for Obama, 2 weeks for Palin. Obama has stood to respond to most of those. When Palin responds, even with a speech, to ANY of hers, we'll talk.
bushwa
QUOTE (Lightnup @ Sep 16 2008, 03:13 PM) *
No, despite close associations with ...Radical Jeramiah Wright ...



Wait a minute, Obama had some kind of link or association to Rev. Jeremiah Wright?! No SHIT?!

Well, why the hell haven't we heard anything about this before now?! Why does lightnup have to tell us this? Goddamn liberal press covering it up, I'll bet! Well, as long as Obama never went to that wacky church of Wright's, I guess it MIGHT be OK.

But Obama knew Wright? Really? I can't believe we have never heard about that before now. Damned liberal press!

And who's that Rezko fellow you're talking about?

Lightnup
QUOTE (Randys @ Sep 16 2008, 06:41 PM) *
why not share with us exactly what is wrong, in detail, including links to credible sources, regards these relationships?? anything? remember, credible..

Randys, the fact that you can ask that question shows the depth of division here. If being mentored in one's youth by a communist, steeped in the teachings and tactics of a Marxist, involved with both an unrepentant terrorist and a convicted slumlord (who just coincidentally buys the property next to yours on the same day and then gets $14 million for his "rehab investment") and spiritually guided (for 20 year) by a radical minister is the RIGHT path to the presidency, the future of this country is sad indeed. The sad part is that, by comparison, Sarah Palin is squeaky clean.

But if Obama's associations and influences are what you think would make government "cool" again....

Besides, it would be tough to accomplish what you've asked because anyone to the right of Olberman wouldn't be considered a credible source here.

You wanna go ahead and ban me now or just see if I hang around a little longer for the fun of it? Your choice.
gutterballz
QUOTE (bushwa @ Sep 16 2008, 07:39 PM) *
Wait a minute, Obama had some kind of link or association to Rev. Jeremiah Wright?! No SHIT?!

Well, why the hell haven't we heard anything about this before now?! Why does lightnup have to tell us this? Goddamn liberal press covering it up, I'll bet! Well, as long as Obama never went to that wacky church of Wright's, I guess it MIGHT be OK.

But Obama knew Wright? Really? I can't believe we have never heard about that before now. Damned liberal press!

And who's that Rezko fellow you're talking about?



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gutterballz
QUOTE (Lightnup @ Sep 16 2008, 07:47 PM) *
Randys, the fact that you can ask that question shows the depth of division here. If being mentored in one's youth by a communist, steeped in the teachings and tactics of a Marxist, involved with both an unrepentant terrorist and a convicted slumlord (who just coincidentally buys the property next to yours on the same day and then gets $14 million for his "rehab investment") and spiritually guided (for 20 year) by a radical minister is the RIGHT path to the presidency, the future of this country is sad indeed. The sad part is that, by comparison, Sarah Palin is squeaky clean.

But if Obama's associations and influences are what you think would make government "cool" again....

Besides, it would be tough to accomplish what you've asked because anyone to the right of Olberman wouldn't be considered a credible source here.

You wanna go ahead and ban me now or just see if I hang around a little longer for the fun of it? Your choice.


my god are you full of shit rolleyes.gif
Lightnup
QUOTE (gutterballz @ Sep 16 2008, 07:55 PM) *
my god are you full of shit rolleyes.gif

Careful, Charlie Gibson may misquote your reference to God.
gutterballz
QUOTE (Lightnup @ Sep 16 2008, 08:42 PM) *
Careful, Charlie Gibson may misquote your reference to God.


he didn't mis quote Palin's so why would he mis quote mine
TwinkleToes
QUOTE (gutterballz @ Sep 16 2008, 04:55 PM) *
my god are you full of shit rolleyes.gif



C'mon, even shit doesn't stink THAT bad! laugh.gif

gutterballz
QUOTE (TwinkleToes @ Sep 16 2008, 09:16 PM) *
C'mon, even shit doesn't stink THAT bad! laugh.gif


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Randys
QUOTE (Lightnup @ Sep 16 2008, 04:47 PM) *
Randys, the fact that you can ask that question shows the depth of division here. If being mentored in one's youth by a communist, steeped in the teachings and tactics of a Marxist, involved with both an unrepentant terrorist and a convicted slumlord (who just coincidentally buys the property next to yours on the same day and then gets $14 million for his "rehab investment") and spiritually guided (for 20 year) by a radical minister is the RIGHT path to the presidency, the future of this country is sad indeed. The sad part is that, by comparison, Sarah Palin is squeaky clean.

But if Obama's associations and influences are what you think would make government "cool" again....

Besides, it would be tough to accomplish what you've asked because anyone to the right of Olberman wouldn't be considered a credible source here.

You wanna go ahead and ban me now or just see if I hang around a little longer for the fun of it? Your choice.

as i suspected, you have nothing...just the same ole hate speech, made up issues, nothing to back it up

dont you folks get tired of repeating this garbage?

tell the truth, what is the real reason you hate Obama so much?

it's ok, say it out-loud...come on, you know you want to say it....
RoyPDX
QUOTE (Lightnup @ Sep 16 2008, 04:47 PM) *
Randys, the fact that you can ask that question shows the depth of division here. If being mentored in one's youth by a communist, steeped in the teachings and tactics of a Marxist, involved with both an unrepentant terrorist and a convicted slumlord (who just coincidentally buys the property next to yours on the same day and then gets $14 million for his "rehab investment") and spiritually guided (for 20 year) by a radical minister is the RIGHT path to the presidency, the future of this country is sad indeed. The sad part is that, by comparison, Sarah Palin is squeaky clean.

You wanna go ahead and ban me now or just see if I hang around a little longer for the fun of it? Your choice.

Glad hate is fun for you

THIS crap you need to back up with valid sources.
Randys
QUOTE (RoyPDX @ Sep 16 2008, 06:43 PM) *
THIS crap you need to back up with valid sources.

do you see the seething hate he has for Obama? wonder why that is...
gutterballz
QUOTE (Randys @ Sep 16 2008, 09:38 PM) *
tell the truth, what is the real reason you hate Obama so much?

it's ok, say it out-loud...come on, you know you want to say it....


he doesn't have the guts to say it
RoyPDX
QUOTE (Randys @ Sep 16 2008, 06:46 PM) *
do you see the seething hate he has for Obama? wonder why that is...

I know. It has nothing to do with him as a man; that's obvious.
Lightnup
QUOTE (gutterballz @ Sep 16 2008, 08:45 PM) *
he didn't mis quote Palin's so why would he mis quote mine


Jeez...do I have to do all of your research for you? Charlie mis-quoted her. Period. Here's your link from none other than Huffpo:

Palin was Right, Gibson was Wrong

RoyPDX
QUOTE (Lightnup @ Sep 16 2008, 07:27 PM) *
Jeez...do I have to do all of your research for you? Charlie mis-quoted her. Period. Here's your link from none other than Huffpo:

Palin was Right, Gibson was Wrong

"Actually, Palin asked members of the church to pray "that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

In the quote as edited by Gibson, the meaning is that she thinks the war is part of God's plan. In her actual quote, she's saying it might or might not be part of God's plan and we sure better hope, and pray, that it is."

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Charlie was wrong, yes. but so was Steven Waldman. Nowhere did Palin say "might" or "might not." The only inference an honest reader can make of her words is, that "praying will ENSURE that this is, indeed, God's plan."
Christine
QUOTE (Sasha85 @ Sep 16 2008, 12:52 AM) *
MSNBC is reporting that McCain campaign says Palin will not meet with "Troopergate" investigators because the investigation is tainted and a Democratic driven "witch hunt".


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26727937/


Even though it started before he vetted her? Geez! Throw that man a rope, he's drowning in bullshit!
gutterballz
QUOTE (RoyPDX @ Sep 16 2008, 10:32 PM) *
"Actually, Palin asked members of the church to pray "that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

In the quote as edited by Gibson, the meaning is that she thinks the war is part of God's plan. In her actual quote, she's saying it might or might not be part of God's plan and we sure better hope, and pray, that it is."

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Charlie was wrong, yes. but so was Steven Waldman. Nowhere did Palin say "might" or "might not." The only inference an honest reader can make of her words is, that "praying will ENSURE that this is, indeed, God's plan."


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Lightnup
QUOTE (RoyPDX @ Sep 16 2008, 09:43 PM) *
THIS crap you need to back up with valid sources.

Obama's Communist mentor - Alinksy
Obama's OTHER Communist mentor - Davis
Obama and Rezko
Obama and Ayers
These weren't written by Olberman so don't know if they are valid enough for you. The point is that Palin is being criticized for any tiny perceived transgression (My God, she once went swimming after eating without waiting for an hour first! What does that tell you about her judgement?!). Obama has some serious dubious associations and gets a pass.


Lightnup
QUOTE (RoyPDX @ Sep 16 2008, 10:32 PM) *
"Actually, Palin asked members of the church to pray "that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

In the quote as edited by Gibson, the meaning is that she thinks the war is part of God's plan. In her actual quote, she's saying it might or might not be part of God's plan and we sure better hope, and pray, that it is."

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Charlie was wrong, yes. but so was Steven Waldman. Nowhere did Palin say "might" or "might not." The only inference an honest reader can make of her words is, that "praying will ENSURE that this is, indeed, God's plan."

Boy, that's a stretch.
Wayne
QUOTE (Lightnup @ Sep 16 2008, 02:32 PM) *
Sort of like Obama isn't prepared or willing to meet McCain in Town Hall meetings?


Naw, it's more like the Republicans have nominated a VP candidate and now they're afraid to let voters watch her sink or float outside of the controlled lab or convention environment.
RoyPDX
QUOTE (Lightnup @ Sep 16 2008, 08:07 PM) *
Boy, that's a stretch.

Boy, that's a non-answer.
Sasha85
The thing is, Palin just a few weeks ago said that she welcomed the investigation for she doesn't believe she did anything wrong. Now she is not only refusing to meet with the investigators, but her staff back in Alaska are trying to figure out ways to not get subpoenaed. Especially her husband. If there is no there there....then why all of sudden are they trying to squash an investigation that began long before she was ever picked to be McCain's running mate? Seems to me there is much more going on then just this "troopergate". If not, why all the covering up?
Lightnup
QUOTE (RoyPDX @ Sep 17 2008, 02:54 AM) *
Boy, that's a non-answer.

What's to answer? Charlie mis-quoted Palin. Spin it whatever way you want, doesn't change the fact that gutterballz said he didn't when even Huffpo says he did.
carmenjonze
QUOTE (Lightnup @ Sep 17 2008, 05:53 AM) *
What's to answer? Charlie mis-quoted Palin. Spin it whatever way you want, doesn't change the fact that gutterballz said he didn't when even Huffpo says he did.


Why do you support a pro-rape, pro-incest candidate?
Lightnup
QUOTE (carmenjonze @ Sep 17 2008, 08:56 AM) *
Why do you support a pro-rape, pro-incest candidate?

Because I don't want to vote for a pro-infanticide candidate.
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