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NYT Politcal Blog

September 16, 2008, 1:46 pm
Democrats Sue Michigan G.O.P. on Voter Issue
By Michael Falcone

Updated Responding to allegations that Republican Party officials in Macomb County, Michigan plan to use home foreclosure lists to challenge voters at the polls in November, the Obama Campaign and the Democratic National Committee filed a lawsuit on Tuesday in federal court to prevent what they contended was an illegal practice.

Obama Campaign General Counsel Bob Bauer said that using home foreclosure lists as a basis for challenging voter eligibility would have a “deadly effect of the voting process” and argued that the practice would be illegal.

“This is a standard operating procedure within the Republican party that’s been under legal challenge,” Mr. Bauer said on a conference call with reporters on Tuesday.

Last week the chairman of the G.O.P. in Macomb County, James Carabelli, was quoted in the online publican, the Michigan Messenger, as saying that the party planned to use foreclosure lists to stop voters who no longer have valid addresses from casting their ballots.

“We will have a list of foreclosed homes and will make sure people aren’t voting from those addresses,” Mr. Carabelli was quoted as saying, according to a Sept. 10 article in the Michigan Messenger.

Since the story first appeared, Mr. Carabelli has repeatedly denied that the party planned to use the lists, and in an interview with The New York Times suggested that he was misquoted.


“I have no voter challenging program here in my county,” Mr. Carabelli said late last week.

And in a statement on the Michigan G.O.P. Web site the chairman of the Michigan Republican Party Saul Anuzis called the story “a complete fabrication.”

“There has never been a plan to use foreclosure lists to challenge voters. There is no such plan, and there never will be such a plan. Period,” Mr. Anuzis said.

Mr. Anuzis repeated those assertions on a conference call today and said that the Republicans would formally ask the Messenger for a retraction. Absent that, he said, the G.O.P. would pursue a libel lawsuit against the publication.

According to a statement on its Web site, Messenger editors appeared to be resisting calls for a retraction.

“There will be no retraction because Mr. Carabelli and Mr. Anuzis’ claims are unfounded. The quotes were not fabricated. Michigan Messenger and the Center for Independent Media stand behind this story 100 percent.”

Mr. Anuzis characterized the Democrats’ legal action a “stunt.”

“It clearly shows their desperation as they move forward,” he said.

But the Obama campaign countered that the denials amounted to “backpedaling” on the part of the Michigan G.O.P., and said that they had enough evidence to go forward with the lawsuit.

“Our position is very simple, they can tell it to the judge,” Mr. Bauer said.

more:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09...ns-in-michigan/
L-Rey-LA
Exactly what I was waiting to hear!

Hartman mentioned that the Republican party has had an injunction against it and Obama needed to hit them hard.
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Randys
but wait, i am confused

one of our rightie friends assured us this practice is to insure democracy and liberty, not to inhibit it?

surely anytime a group of people spend their time solely intent on preventing others from voting, assures and promotes democracy, doesnt it?


oh, and i almost forgot, if there is absolutely nothing wrong here, if there is no way this can be abused and used to disenfrnachise voters,

"Why would one of the largest and most powerful political party's on the planet, waste their time and money suing over it?"
Randys
Our position is very simple, they can tell it to the judge, Mr. Bauer said.



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leftysergeant
The Obama campaign is striking Rover right where it hurts.

I am seeing a man with a spine of steel and two solid brass balls here.

Ya want a pre-emptive strike, Grampa? We'll show you a pre-emptive strike.
Motor-City
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“I have no voter challenging program here in my county,” Mr. Carabelli said late last week.

And in a statement on the Michigan G.O.P. Web site the chairman of the Michigan Republican Party Saul Anuzis called the story “a complete fabrication.”

“There has never been a plan to use foreclosure lists to challenge voters. There is no such plan, and there never will be such a plan. Period,” Mr. Anuzis said.


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changed their tune huh? this is the kind of check that journalists and news media are suposed to have.

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“There will be no retraction because Mr. Carabelli and Mr. Anuzis’ claims are unfounded. The quotes were not fabricated. Michigan Messenger and the Center for Independent Media stand behind this story 100 percent.”


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rememberearth
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Obama Campaign General Counsel Bob Bauer said that using home foreclosure lists as a basis for challenging voter eligibility would have a “deadly effect of the voting process” and argued that the practice would be illegal.

HE'LL FIGHT FOR OUR VOTE!

TALKIN' 'BOUT!

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RoyPDX
QUOTE (Randys @ Sep 17 2008, 02:05 PM) *
but wait, i am confused

one of our rightie friends assured us this practice is to insure democracy and liberty, not to inhibit it?

lol Is this the rightie friend who said he's studied this for YEARS and has found NO evidence of any such practices PERIOD!
egghead
QUOTE (leftysergeant @ Sep 17 2008, 04:12 PM) *
The Obama campaign is striking Rover right where it hurts.

I am seeing a man with a spine of steel and two solid brass balls here.

Ya want a pre-emptive strike, Grampa? We'll show you a pre-emptive strike.


You see what I see, and it surely ain't Russia through a telescope. smile.gif
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Of course this will go widely unreported because Obama just can't seem to close the gap.

Obama just doesn't have what it takes, right? right? rolleyes.gif All the polls tell me so.

(This message brought to ya by mega-corporations for republicans)
Motor-City
QUOTE (rememberearth @ Sep 18 2008, 02:49 AM) *
HE'LL FIGHT FOR OUR VOTE!

TALKIN' 'BOUT!

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September 29, 2008
Mich. Officials: Forclosures Can't Stop Votes

LANSING, Mich. -- Michigan election officials said Monday they will remind local clerks that home foreclosure lists are not sufficient to challenge voting status.

The reminder will be part of upcoming informational packets sent out in anticipation of the November election.

State law states a vote challenger should know or have "good reason to suspect" that a voter isn't properly registered or qualified to cast a ballot in a certain precinct. A person whose home is in the foreclosure process still could be living at the address on the foreclosure list.

State elections director Chris Thomas said foreclosure lists alone aren't enough to contest a voter's residence. That will be reflected in mailings to local election officials as early as this week.


http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/17583336/detail.html
SherriChardonnay
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this is good news right?.....have the people who have been forclosed on know this
pi4peasants
QUOTE (SherriChardonnay @ Sep 30 2008, 08:20 AM) *
this is good news right?.....have the people who have been forclosed on know this

If it were me, preceeding an election, I would not move out until the authorities force me OR make the address change at my new place before registration deadline. Only thing about that, when I changed my address three months before the '04 election, my new precinct said they didn't have my info from the board of elections, so I had to do a provisional ballot. This was in the same small city and I only changed neighborhoods. I was pissed. After that, I made sure with board of elections before voting day so I dont' get screwed again.
Just because someones on a foreclosure list, does not mean they don't reside there.
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