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Drak
Found this on a comments blog:

Obama:
Occidental College - Two years.
Columbia University - B.A. political science with a specialization in international relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 out of 899 (meaning that, like George Bush, McCain was at the bottom of his class)

Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism

Now, which team are you going to hire to lead the most influential nation in the world?
carmenjonze
QUOTE (Drak @ Sep 17 2008, 10:05 PM) *
Found this on a comments blog:

Obama:
Occidental College - Two years.
Columbia University - B.A. political science with a specialization in international relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 out of 899 (meaning that, like George Bush, McCain was at the bottom of his class)

Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism

Now, which team are you going to hire to lead the most influential nation in the world?



The white one.
zinkadink
And, from what I've read, but cannot remember where, the only reason McStupid entered politics was because he couldn't get promoted to admiral, like his daddy. I suspect that given his abysmal record in almost everything, he was not going to be hired by any prominent firm, agency or whatever. I get this sense that he knew that without a single credential, his only future was in politics. And, his only future was in repuke politics. I suspect this, anyway, given that the repukes seem to attract the worst of the worst, the bottom of the barrel, the sludge at the bottom of the pond...... You get my drift.
JRunRun
QUOTE (carmenjonze @ Sep 17 2008, 10:38 PM) *
The white one.


Hahaha... Palin had more experience cause she went to more colleges... laugh.gif
Lightnup
QUOTE (Drak @ Sep 18 2008, 01:05 AM) *
Found this on a comments blog:

Obama:
Occidental College - Two years.
Columbia University - B.A. political science with a specialization in international relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 out of 899 (meaning that, like George Bush, McCain was at the bottom of his class)

Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism

Now, which team are you going to hire to lead the most influential nation in the world?

The one who didn't use Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" as the guide to life.
Hardball
QUOTE (Lightnup @ Sep 18 2008, 10:13 AM) *
The one who didn't use Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" as the guide to life.


. . . as the guide to life. . .

. . . care to explain your assertion?
Lightnup
QUOTE (Hardball @ Sep 18 2008, 10:26 AM) *
. . . as the guide to life. . .

. . . care to explain your assertion?



Sure.
Hillary, Obama and the cult of Alinsky

"Barack Obama is also an Alinskyite. Trained by Alinsky’s Industrial Areas Foundation, Obama spent years teaching workshops on the Alinsky method. In 1985 he began a four-year stint as a community organizer in Chicago, working for an Alinskyite group called the Developing Communities Project. Later, he worked with ACORN and its offshoot Project Vote, both creations of the Alinsky network.

Camouflage is key to Alinsky-style organizing. While trying to build coalitions of black churches in Chicago, Obama caught flak for not attending church himself. He became an instant churchgoer.

That Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama share an Alinskyite background tells us two things. First, they are leftists, dedicated to overthrowing our Constitutional system. Second, they will go to any length to conceal their radicalism from the public. That is the Alinsky method. And that is today’s Democratic Party."


Well, depending on whether the mods consider this "lively political discussion" (Rule 1) or sowing discord (Rule 3), I may or may not be banned. I guess we'll see. I'm currently reading Rules for Radicals so I view this more discussion than discord.
carmenjonze
QUOTE (Lightnup @ Sep 18 2008, 08:18 AM) *
Sure.
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From freeperville to Tehran Times ending at Rense, a discredited, anti-Semitic, UFO site.

Who do you think you're kidding?
DonShafer
QUOTE (Lightnup @ Sep 18 2008, 10:18 AM) *
Sure.
Hillary, Obama and the cult of Alinsky

"Barack Obama is also an Alinskyite. Trained by Alinsky’s Industrial Areas Foundation, Obama spent years teaching workshops on the Alinsky method. In 1985 he began a four-year stint as a community organizer in Chicago, working for an Alinskyite group called the Developing Communities Project. Later, he worked with ACORN and its offshoot Project Vote, both creations of the Alinsky network.

Camouflage is key to Alinsky-style organizing. While trying to build coalitions of black churches in Chicago, Obama caught flak for not attending church himself. He became an instant churchgoer.

That Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama share an Alinskyite background tells us two things. First, they are leftists, dedicated to overthrowing our Constitutional system. Second, they will go to any length to conceal their radicalism from the public. That is the Alinsky method. And that is today’s Democratic Party."


Well, depending on whether the mods consider this "lively political discussion" (Rule 1) or sowing discord (Rule 3), I may or may not be banned. I guess we'll see. I'm currently reading Rules for Radicals so I view this more discussion than discord.



horse.gif

Why don't you just come right out and call him a Communist or terrorist?
Haven't you people figured out yet that "fear and smear" only are working on the 15% that still believe that Bushyt is a good president?
Why do you hate America?
toptier
QUOTE (Drak @ Sep 18 2008, 01:05 AM) *
Found this on a comments blog:

Obama:
Occidental College - Two years.
Columbia University - B.A. political science with a specialization in international relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 out of 899 (meaning that, like George Bush, McCain was at the bottom of his class)

Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism

Now, which team are you going to hire to lead the most influential nation in the world?



For this to be effective, the names all have to be removed.

One has to see the material in black & white, with no opportunity to allow for pre-judging based on any other internalized external chatter.

If the names are removed, and the resumes mixed up, or even if some other resumes are added in as blinds (say, BUSH'S and Bill CLINTON'S?), then you can really see some honest answers.

Clinton, Obama, and Biden would all be selected over Bush, McCain, and Palin.

But it has to be a blind selection.


Drak
QUOTE (toptier @ Sep 18 2008, 08:39 AM) *
For this to be effective, the names all have to be removed.

One has to see the material in black & white, with no opportunity to allow for pre-judging based on any other internalized external chatter.

If the names are removed, and the resumes mixed up, or even if some other resumes are added in as blinds (say, BUSH'S and Bill CLINTON'S?), then you can really see some honest answers.

Clinton, Obama, and Biden would all be selected over Bush, McCain, and Palin.

But it has to be a blind selection.



That's very true. I should do that and send it to my repugnant inlaws and see what they answer.
Hardball
QUOTE
That Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama share an Alinskyite background tells us two things. First, they are leftists, dedicated to overthrowing our Constitutional system. Second, they will go to any length to conceal their radicalism from the public. That is the Alinsky method. And that is today’s Democratic Party."


Well, depending on whether the mods consider this "lively political discussion" (Rule 1) or sowing discord (Rule 3), I may or may not be banned. I guess we'll see. I'm currently reading Rules for Radicals so I view this more discussion than discord.


Let's examine a few of your assertions.

Concealing "radicalism." One of Alinksy's most prominent projects as a community organizer was with the Back of The Yards neighborhood featured in Upton Sinclair's The Jungle. From this, he helped found the Industrial Areas Foundation. Here's their website



Hardball

Since you're reading Rules For Radicals, you know the opening paragraph goes as such. . .

"What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to what they believe it should be. The Prince was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away".

You feel free to explain to me how our constitution was meant to impose a Machiavellian government .
LaughinWillow
I just posted this on another forum, in response to the claim that Obama and Palin are equally "inexperienced." Why isn't Obama blasting the public with this? He is NOT INEXPERIENCED - but you never hear him talking about his record, not just in government, but IN GENERAL. Check it out - it's really freaking insane.

Barack Obama:
BA in Political Science with Spec. in International Relations
1 year at Business International Corporation
3 years at New York Public Interest Research Group
3 years as community organizer and Director of Developing Communities Project
Consultant for the Gamaliel Foundation (another community service group)
First black president of Harvard Law Review
Graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School
Directed Illinois Project Vote in 1992
Taught Constitutional Law at U of Chicago Law School for 12 years
Civil Rights Attorney for 11 years
Founding member of the board of directors of Public Allies
Served 1993-2002 on the board of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago
Served 1994-2002 on the board of directors of The Joyce Foundation.
Served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge 1995–2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995–1999.
Served on the board of directors of the Chicago Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, the Center for Neighborhood Technology, and the Lugenia Burns Hope Center.
State Legislator 1997-2004
U.S. Senator 2005-Present
Assignments on: Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Environment and Public Works and Veterans' Affairs through December 2006.
In January 2007, left the Environment and Public Works committee and took additional assignments with Health, Education, Labor and Pensions and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. Also became Chairman of the Senate's subcommittee on European Affairs. As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama has made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa


Sarah Palin:
Winner Miss Wasilla beauty pageant
2nd runner up for Miss Alaska (won Miss Congeniality) - yes, I"m padding her resume here, but trying to be nice
BS in Journalism from University of Idaho
Wasilla city council 1992-1996
2 terms as mayor of town of 6,300
1 year on Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
2 years as governor of Alaska
carmenjonze
QUOTE (LaughinWillow @ Sep 18 2008, 08:54 AM) *
I just posted this on another forum, in response to the claim that Obama and Palin are equally "inexperienced." Why isn't Obama blasting the public with this? He is NOT INEXPERIENCED - but you never hear him talking about his record, not just in government, but IN GENERAL. Check it out - it's really freaking insane.

Barack Obama:
BA in Political Science with Spec. in International Relations
1 year at Business International Corporation
3 years at New York Public Interest Research Group
3 years as community organizer and Director of Developing Communities Project
Consultant for the Gamaliel Foundation (another community service group)
First black president of Harvard Law Review
Graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School
Directed Illinois Project Vote in 1992
Taught Constitutional Law at U of Chicago Law School for 12 years
Civil Rights Attorney for 11 years
Founding member of the board of directors of Public Allies
Served 1993-2002 on the board of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago
Served 1994-2002 on the board of directors of The Joyce Foundation.
Served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge 1995–2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995–1999.
Served on the board of directors of the Chicago Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, the Center for Neighborhood Technology, and the Lugenia Burns Hope Center.
State Legislator 1997-2004
U.S. Senator 2005-Present
Assignments on: Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Environment and Public Works and Veterans' Affairs through December 2006.
In January 2007, left the Environment and Public Works committee and took additional assignments with Health, Education, Labor and Pensions and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. Also became Chairman of the Senate's subcommittee on European Affairs. As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama has made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa


Sarah Palin:
Winner Miss Wasilla beauty pageant
2nd runner up for Miss Alaska (won Miss Congeniality) - yes, I"m padding her resume here, but trying to be nice
BS in Journalism from University of Idaho
Wasilla city council 1992-1996
2 terms as mayor of town of 6,300
1 year on Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
2 years as governor of Alaska


You forgot the top quality looked for these days to be VP: she has 5 kids.

And is a "hockey mom".
Hardball
QUOTE
I just posted this on another forum, in response to the claim that Obama and Palin are equally "inexperienced." Why isn't Obama blasting the public with this? He is NOT INEXPERIENCED - but you never hear him talking about his record, not just in government, but IN GENERAL.


Because it doesn't matter.

Hard-right conservatives are running on the notion that the less education a politician has, the MORE qualified they are to lead.

Just keep putting a hot mic in front of Sarah's face, and it will take care of itself.
hypnoboy
QUOTE (carmenjonze @ Sep 17 2008, 10:38 PM) *
The white one.


HA!! Funny... sadly, probably true amongst some.
hypnoboy
QUOTE (Hardball @ Sep 18 2008, 08:59 AM) *
Because it doesn't matter.

Hard-right conservatives are running on the notion that the less education a politician has, the MORE qualified they are to lead.


In fact, Fatty has said repeatedly for years that "Eggheads" (those who have an education) tend to be more liberal, and that the more "Egghead they become" (more education they get) the more liberal they get.

What I don't understand is, what's wrong with being a "Liberal"? Why/How is this word used with negative connotation???
Hardball
QUOTE (hypnoboy @ Sep 18 2008, 12:05 PM) *
In fact, Fatty has said repeatedly for years that "Eggheads" (those who have an education) tend to be more liberal, and that the more "Egghead they become" (more education they get) the more liberal they get.

What I don't understand is, what's wrong with being a "Liberal"? Why/How is this word used with negative connotation???


I read your egghead comment and it popped into my mind that one of McCain's spokesmen called Obama a, "pointy-headed professor" after a frustrating exchange with a reporter.

QUOTE
What I don't understand is, what's wrong with being a "Liberal"? Why/How is this word used with negative connotation???


I think it started to change around the time republicans started conflating, "liberal" with, "communist."
zinkadink
QUOTE (carmenjonze @ Sep 18 2008, 11:58 AM) *
You forgot the top quality looked for these days to be VP: she has 5 kids.

And is a "hockey mom".

And, wears lipstick.
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